Posted on 02/25/2016 6:39:06 AM PST by ebb tide
Thanks for the contact information. I will make contact in the morning and let y’all know if there is any response: good, bad, or the -— unfortunately, expected -—clerical bafflegab.
Thanks for the contact information. I will make contact in the morning and let y’all know if there is any response: good, bad, or the -— unfortunately, expected -—clerical bafflegab.
That is true, but we have seen it coming along. What is so sad to me is a NEW ruthless attitude of Francis & Company, especially toward bishops who are “traditional.”
They have viciously destroyed numerous careers, maybe lives, of good men from “Trads” to simply Tridentiners. The high-profile ones might have caused an outcry so circumstances were trumped up, eg: age, abuse, finances.
In the modern past, popes and bishops had a “tolerant” attitude toward one another, never punitive.
The nuts and lefties were given free rein in their private lives, as long as they did not hijack the faith. The gays were left alone as long as they did not corrupt the faithful. The “avant garde” thinkers could have rarefied conferences and write books and none of this trickled down to the faithful.
Now the entire upper hierarchy is openly hostile to the conservative element and has adopted a “take no prisoners” approach. Instead of mutual acceptance, the most “devout” are surprised to be sidelined or worse.
Do you see it thus?
I think you’re correct.
Virtually all institutions are now Marxist. Paul VI and JPII filled the hierarchy with Marxists and mediocrities. Francis is the result.
I think he has dementia. He’s getting worse and worse.
I suspect that the Cardinals in the next Conclave are going to want to know: “Is this man’s diocese a disintegrating shambles?”—because that’s what Buenos Aires is.
The first line of the address should read:
The Most Rev. Joseph J. Tyson
If that is the question, it explains why Cupich is aggressively getting his finances in order. The balance sheet is critical to rise to prominence. Those musty old cathedrals and traditional trappings he’s disposing of just make the sentimental folk in the pew long for that old time religion.
As for Cupich, you can almost see him salivating. He may want to be Pope more than any man living. Would be a stretch for an American, but US Cardinals are increasingly becoming Bergoglio darlings. They are getting to be thicker and more cunning than Italians.
Tagle and Ouellet are actually men with some spirituality, so, similar to JP2, perhaps more easily manouvered. Isn’t Ouellet’s diocese is in tip-top shape? What about little Tagle?
I understand what you are saying about JP2, but I think he had no ill intent, he was too much of an angel to control it all. The altar server thing was manipulated by Sodano.
Form of address “Your Excellency” - although I would not write if not a Catholic in the diocese of Yakima in good standing. Your letter will not be read, nor should it be, as it is outside their jurisdiction.
Subjects write only to their own bishops. These men don’t care how eloquent you are or what you think, so you only look ignorant addressing them outside of respected authority or protocol.
“So many different Bishops with so many different opinions. ..”
So true. There was a bishop in PA on a radio show that said that agreeing, or disagreeing on illegal immigration is a matter of opinion, but believing in abortion is definitely WRONG. (I’m paraphrasing.)
I think the main problem with your thinking is it is expressed in political terms: left vs right. What is going on in the post Vatican II years has more to do with Catholic vs. non-Catholic.
This bishop has ZERO authority to make these statements.
This is not a dogmatic teaching of the church. It is pure political hyperbole.
That’s besides the point that he is completely wrong on the issue.
Talk about something you really know about.
thanks...forgot about that, I just copy and pasted from his diocesan website...
This is a political blog and I was thinking in terms of the political issues in the hierarchy that Catholics in the USA are finally, on the pew level, starting to realize. I was not addressing the Church as a whole, certainly.
What you describe is true since V@, and so is the case of Catholic vs. Catholic vs. Catholic, now winnowing down to just 2 of the 3.
This is true and I forget that politics is the focus of most of the posters here even in the Religion sub-forum.
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