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Late Have I Loved You -- On the Delay of Marriage in Our Culture and the Flawed Notions That . . .
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-11-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 01/12/2016 7:26:49 AM PST by Salvation

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1 posted on 01/12/2016 7:26:49 AM PST by Salvation
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Late Have I Loved You -- On the Delay of Marriage in Our Culture and the Flawed Notions That Underlie It

2 posted on 01/12/2016 7:27:43 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Young adults today are not wholly to blame for marrying later in life. The adults in their lives, and institutions like schools and the Church, also bear some responsibility. These negative effects flowed from what we have done and what we have failed to do, individually and collectively. This is about all of us.
3 posted on 01/12/2016 7:30:49 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Monsignor Pope Ping!


4 posted on 01/12/2016 7:32:24 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The last time the marriage rate declined was in the 1930s, and the combination of economic and government-related (e.g., taxation) issues were similar then as they are now. My impression, moreover—it would be interesting to see if this is statistically the case—is that the rise in marriages and births that took place after WWII was to men who fought in the war, meaning they would have been too young to be married in the 1930s, married to wives whose male counterparts who were too young to have fought in the war. If this is the case and if history is to repeat itself, then the marriage rate should rise beginning around 2020, not because the older millennials will be marrying, but because the younger millennial men will be marrying post-millennial women.


5 posted on 01/12/2016 7:42:07 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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I married late. It makes for a rocky road and narrow options indeed. With hindsight, I probably would not have done it.

I encourage young people to marry when they are ready. Smart and positive people need to reproduce too, not chase paper until it is almost too late.


6 posted on 01/12/2016 7:46:58 AM PST by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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Hard to get married when your living in your parents basement looking for a job.


7 posted on 01/12/2016 7:48:31 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Salvation

Fantastic article, thank you! I plan to encourage my children to be marriage-minded.

Hopefully by the time they turn 20 the field of potential prospects will not be completely barren.


8 posted on 01/12/2016 7:50:05 AM PST by To Hell With Poverty (All freedom must be transported in bottles of 3 oz or less. - Freeper relictele)
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Our son and his wife are young marrieds (25 and 29), parents of two. My friends are all jealous that we have grandkids. Their kids look successful. They are getting Masters’ and Phds and have wonderful ‘career goals’ - but they are all single, not dating anyone in particular, self-focused.

They look like they are doing everything right, by today’s standards, but WE have grandchildren and our ‘kids’ are smack in the middle of adulthood, making real decisions, holding real jobs. We are so proud of them.


9 posted on 01/12/2016 8:03:44 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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All I know is if I had married the person I was dating when I was 21, it would have been the biggest mistake of my life. I married at 26. My choice of a quality mate changed during those 5 years.

And when you are 21, you just don’t make the best choices.


10 posted on 01/12/2016 8:42:06 AM PST by skinndogNN
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I’ll never marry, had my shot and it all went south.
After watching my friends lives torn apart by divorce I know I made the right choice, for me.
That decision can free you in a way to pursue your dreams, while standing on your own, very satisfying.
While not perfect, at least I am not living in a studio apartment watching some other man raise my children.


11 posted on 01/12/2016 8:48:56 AM PST by glasseye
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Marriage in Our Culture and the Flawed Notions That . . ., Salvation wrote: Young adults today are not wholly to blame for marrying later in life. The adults in their lives, and institutions like schools and the Church, also bear some responsibility. These negative effects flowed from what we have done and what we have failed to do, individually and collectively. This is about all of us.

The number one and two causes of marital fights are:
1. money
2. child rearing

I don't think that things have changed, do you?

Marrying later in life means additional maturity for both. That's a good thing.
I was 29 and my husband was 34...and we were introduced by my sister (who worked with husband).

12 posted on 01/12/2016 9:06:06 AM PST by cloudmountain
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I’ll never marry, had my shot and it all went south. After watching my friends lives torn apart by divorce I know I made the right choice, for me.
That decision can free you in a way to pursue your dreams, while standing on your own, very satisfying. While not perfect, at least I am not living in a studio apartment watching some other man raise my children.

Amen.
I won't marry again. I simply CANNOT bury another husband...far too painful.

13 posted on 01/12/2016 9:07:26 AM PST by cloudmountain
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My first marriage was a bit "late." I was 26, my wife was 29. There were "reasons" for delay for each of us. Graduate school for me; a long illness and recovery for her. At the time we met, both of those things were behind us, and we were "ready." It was a good marriage. It lasted 30 years, until her death, and produced 3 children.

I wouldn't urge others to follow the same path, but it worked for us.

One thing I will say is that if you wait too long, you won't have the energy needed to raise your children. Children really need "young" parents, who still have plenty of energy, and who can put up with children without being worn out. I think at the time we married, we were on the borderline of being a bit too old.

I eventually married a widow. By then we had both seen our children reach maturity, so we're not faced with dealing with young children. Grandchildren are different. You can hand them back to their parents when they cry.

14 posted on 01/12/2016 9:12:51 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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I may not recall this correctly, but I remember from my medieval European history class that there were similar delays in getting married based on bad economic factors, and earlier marriage in good economic times at that time as well.


15 posted on 01/12/2016 9:27:42 AM PST by kosciusko51
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Tell your friends that your 18 year old doesn’t want to go to college, and they will tell you that college isn’t needed if your child is not afraid to work and is ambitions.

Tell your friends that your 18 year old is hooked on drugs, and they will tell you of all the great programs their are to deal with this issue, and how many people they know that have beaten this issue.

Tell your friends that your 18 year is or has gotten someone pregnant, and they will ask if you are excited about being a grandparent.

Tell your friends that your 18 year old is getting married, and you would think it’s the end of the world, and rather than congratulations and happiness, they will try to convince you to stop the couple before they “ruin their lives”.

Our society has really lost sight of what is important.


16 posted on 01/12/2016 9:50:19 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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I simply CANNOT bury another husband...far too painful.

I'm afraid to ask.

17 posted on 01/12/2016 10:22:12 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (I shot Schroedinger's cat with Chekhov's gun.)
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Excellent article. Thanks for posting it.


18 posted on 01/12/2016 10:33:11 AM PST by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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We gave up satisficing for maximizing.

Then we wonder in our thirties why “All of the good ones are already taken.”


19 posted on 01/12/2016 10:35:04 AM PST by dfwgator
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If I were king, marriage would be abolished.

Procreation would take place in massive mosh pits inside the city gates — a frenzied free-for-all of coital desire.

The resultant offspring would be cared for by the parents, who had no responsibility whatsoever to one another, only to the child.

And all lawyers would be shot on sight.


20 posted on 01/12/2016 10:47:40 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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