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To: Arthur McGowan

“Possibly.”

We have to be careful about the “knowledge that puffs up.” A revelation from the Lord will also elicit humility. Could it be this easy? I don’t know, however we would also be right to ask, by the same science, how a star light years away could locate Magi without modern technology to the Nativity to the accuracy needed. Explanations that posit a localized supernatural phenomenon instead of (or in addition to) a star as we know it, seem to make more sense. But just IMHO.


3 posted on 12/25/2015 2:49:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
We have to be careful about the “knowledge that puffs up.” A revelation from the Lord will also elicit humility. Could it be this easy? I don’t know, however we would also be right to ask, by the same science, how a star light years away could locate Magi without modern technology to the Nativity to the accuracy needed. Explanations that posit a localized supernatural phenomenon instead of (or in addition to) a star as we know it, seem to make more sense. But just IMHO.

It seems to me that we humans USED to be far more attuned to the stars. Now, I think we take them for granted.

Perhaps the Magi (We don't even know that there were THREE. THREE is numbered because of the THREE gifts to Jesus.) and their astrologers knew better than we do about following stars and such.
But just IMHO.

5 posted on 12/25/2015 3:08:08 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The distance of an object (star, planet) from the earth is absolutely irrelevant. What matters is the location in the sky. You haven’t watched the video.


15 posted on 12/25/2015 3:51:59 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Explanations that posit a localized supernatural phenomenon instead of (or in addition to) a star as we know it, seem to make more sense.

You haven't even watched the video. The whole point of the video is that the star was not miraculous. If it was miraculous, it would be meaningless and unverifiable..

18 posted on 12/25/2015 4:12:08 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Arthur McGowan
I totally agree with you, HTR.

The Holy Spirit of The God speaks, and is faithfully translated so we can understand Him, and His words are in the Holy Scriptures. The only thing I need above The Bible is the Jesus described in it, and the demonstrated knowledge that He planned to rescue me before the foundation of this world, showed Himself to me through those Scriptures, and accepted my final and never-ending allegiance to Him because of His faithfulness, ratifying it through the constant rebuilding of my forlorn life through the power of His Spirit.

If the Bible says in the Koine that men from Padanaram of the region of Anatolia (now eastern Turkey) perceived the Radiant Glory of the Lord hovering above His location and followed it, until about two years after His Birth they came to the place where its aura was focused, I believe it.

If its source, nature, and identification with the Messiah is not in the Holy Word, it is of little interest to me except to wonder at the speculative foolishness that drives unwise men to place their confidence in theories falsely called "Science" (1 Tim. 6:20).

And that is because God has given me not only the gift of faith in the Light of the World, Jesus Messiah; but also an education for which I have the documents proving professional expertise in the physical sciences, the dissertation being in the spectroscopy of purified materials, which was later employed in solar materials research.

Because of that, I know that like Daniel (Dan. 8:26, 12:4) and Beloved Theologian John (Rev. 10:4) many things have been shut up and sealed from prying eyes until the time when these secrets should be revealed to His Own (Deut. 29:29, Dan. 2:22).

Why should these people dabble in such matters when the Light of The Holy One has not filled and illuminated their hearts, when the incense of The Holiest Of All is not lingering in their nostrils, when the Voice of the Lord, reaching out from His Word, has not thundered in their ears, when the True Bread from Heaven has never passed their lips, nor the Blood of the Lamb of God not covered and washed away their sins?

Who is it that gives their attention to the non-essential issues like the star prophesied by Balaam, but ignore the weightier matters of salvation and sanctification, eh (Mt. 23:23)?

The Blinded Ones, I surmise:

"But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of
them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious
gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine
unto them" (2Co 4:3-4 AV).

Pray for them, whose otherwise only future radiance will be from the visible flames and invisible deep black body radiation of the Lake of Fire.

66 posted on 12/27/2015 6:01:10 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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