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New Belgium Archbishop: "Mercy" is "Somewhat Condescending...I Like Words Like......
Catholic World Report ^ | 11/9/15 | Carl Olson

Posted on 11/09/2015 7:08:37 PM PST by marshmallow

Archbishop-elect Jozef De Kesel also indicates his hope that the Church will soon allow "divorced and remarried Catholics to receive Communion."

If an archbishop-elect thinks the word "mercy" is "somewhat condescending", what must he think of words such as "sin", "damnation", "hell", and "orthodoxy"? We don't know for certain, but perhaps that is just as well, if only for the sake of keeping one's stomach comments in place. The prelate in question is Jozef De Kesel of Mechelen-Brussels, interviewed by Kerknet and translated into English by Mark de Vries of "In Caelo et in Terra", who covers Catholic news in the Netherlands. The fuller quote:

You did not take part in the Synod on the family, but will probably get to work with its proposals. What will stay with you from this Synod?

"The Synod may not have brought the concrete results that were hoped for, such as allowing divorced and remarried Catholics to receive Communion. But it is unbelievable how much it was a sign of a Church that has changed. The mentality is really not the same anymore.

I may be a careful person, but I do not think we should be marking time. Mercy is an important word for me, but in one way or another it is still somewhat condescending. I like to take words like respect and esteem for man as my starting point. And that may be a value that we, as Christians, share with prevailing culture."

Yes, the phrase "Belgium waffles" did come to mind-and heavy with syrup, please!-while reading this over breakfast. Not that a sensitive stomach can handle too much of this nonsense first thing in the morning. Unfortunately, this sort of thinking-or feeling, which is more apt-is quite prevalent. I recently had a Catholic tell me that he thought the word "sin" was.....

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New Belgium Archbishop: "Mercy" is "Somewhat Condescending...I Like Words Like 'Respect' and 'Esteem'"

1 posted on 11/09/2015 7:08:37 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Start with respect and esteem for man? That is blatant self idolatry.


2 posted on 11/09/2015 7:13:06 PM PST by LukeL
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To: marshmallow

Another Judas or lost in translation, sometimes it happens.


3 posted on 11/09/2015 7:13:56 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: marshmallow

Francis’s first one or two or three appointments in America were leftovers from Benedict. After that, Francis’s appointment in the U.S. and around the world have been uniformly, absolutely STINKERS. He has “reached down” into countries, especially in the Spanish-speaking world, ignoring the candidates suggested by the nuncios, “and picked the worst priests he could find,” according to an account I read last year.

Pollyannas point to a passage here, a sentence there, in which they purport to see evidence that Francis is “pro-life,” or “traditional.”

Phooey. Like many bishops, Francis can give a rip-roaring pro-life speech to a pro-life audience—as he did just days ago in Rome.

But his appointments are all anti-pro-life, leftist, homosexualists. By his fruits you shall know him.


4 posted on 11/09/2015 7:18:59 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: marshmallow
...what must he think of words such as "sin", "damnation", "hell"...

Microagression!

Microagression!

Microagression!

5 posted on 11/09/2015 7:20:13 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marshmallow

Hmmm.....”respect” and “esteem” for man, where else have I seen those words predominantly?

Oh yes, of course: Vatican II.


6 posted on 11/10/2015 2:26:26 AM PST by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“By his fruits you shall know him”—very clever pun

In all seriousness, does the archbishop not regard the act of the Incarnation and even more so the expiatory death of Christ as the supreme act of “condescension?” God taking on human form and taking on our sins? The mercy offered by the Church is God’s mercy, not the archbishop’s; all are in need of it.


7 posted on 11/10/2015 3:03:59 AM PST by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning.)
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“Mercy,” as used by the Pope and his heretical appointees, has absolutely nothing to do with mercy as understood by any Christian at any time in the past. It means LAWLESSNESS.


8 posted on 11/10/2015 7:11:29 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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"“Mercy,” as used by the Pope and his heretical appointees, has absolutely nothing to do with mercy as understood by any Christian at any time in the past. It means LAWLESSNESS."

Roger that. I've never understood how encouraging and indulging someone in behavior which will damn their soul to be an act of "mercy".

9 posted on 11/10/2015 7:20:56 AM PST by circlecity
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I've never understood how encouraging and indulging someone in behavior which will damn their soul to be an act of "mercy".

That's because these heretics either don't believe that said behavior will damn their souls or they don't believe in damnation/Hell...or both. Maybe they don't even believe in God.

10 posted on 11/10/2015 1:04:16 PM PST by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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