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On the Relationship Between Light, Time, and the Mystery of God
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 10-21-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 10/22/2015 7:20:02 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: ealgeone

NO!


21 posted on 10/24/2015 3:42:30 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98

Do you believe He was raised on the third day?


22 posted on 10/24/2015 6:00:13 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem, Creatorem caeli et terrae,
et in Iesum Christum, Filium Eius unicum, Dominum nostrum,
qui conceptus est de Spiritu Sancto, natus ex Maria Virgine,
passus sub Pontio Pilato, crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus,
descendit ad inferos, tertia die resurrexit a mortuis,
ascendit ad caelos, sedet ad dexteram Patris omnipotentis,
inde venturus est iudicare vivos et mortuos.
Credo in Spiritum Sanctum,
sanctam Ecclesiam catholicam, sanctorum communionem,
remissionem peccatorum,
carnis resurrectionem,
vitam aeternam.
Amen.[21]

The Catechism of the Catholic Church gives the following English translation of the Apostles’ Creed.[23] In its discussion of the Creed,[24] the Catechism maintains the traditional division into twelve articles....

I believe in God the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary.
Under Pontius Pilate, He was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended to the dead. On the third day he rose again.
He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting.
Amen.


23 posted on 10/25/2015 2:56:23 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98
You can say it but do you believe it?

Btw, per John 5:24 and 5:29 believers have passed out of judgment.

24 posted on 10/25/2015 3:32:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

I have repeated the Apostles Creed at every Mass I have attended every Sunday for almost seventy years.

As I have said to you that there is zero space between what I believe and what the Catechism teaches.

Therefore your question is just another of your pathetic attempts to bait a faithful Catholic that we can make book on,

Ag Majoram Dei Gloriam


25 posted on 10/25/2015 3:52:53 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98

And yet you ignore the part of believers having passed out of judgment. So your creed is incorrect.


26 posted on 10/25/2015 3:57:31 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“believers having passed out of judgment” = protestant fairy tale


27 posted on 10/25/2015 6:16:58 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98
“believers having passed out of judgment” = protestant fairy tale

I guess Jesus was part of that "protestant fairy tale" then.

18“He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:18 NASB)

24“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. (John 5:24 NASB)

The Greek emphatically rules out a believer coming into judgment in v24.

The believer has passed out of death and into life.

28 posted on 10/25/2015 6:45:34 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Like I said a fairy tale


29 posted on 10/25/2015 8:44:17 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98
You're calling the Word's of Christ, the Son of God, as recorded in John a fairy tale.......

I can only pray your heart is opened to the Gospel.

30 posted on 10/25/2015 9:07:34 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
The Greek emphatically rules out a believer coming into judgment in v24.

I understand where you're coming from, but doesn't it have to be decided (judged) whether that person truly believed in Him in his heart (5:24), and whether they really did good in their life (5:29)?

31 posted on 10/25/2015 9:20:15 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. -- Pope St. Pius X /// Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016!)
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To: LurkingSince'98; ealgeone

A * Yes*. or *No* is an answer to the question.

Posting some creed and stating that you have recited it your whole life is not.

It’s entirely possible to recite something your entire life and not really believe it, but rather just be parroting words you have been taught to say.

So...... Yes? or No?


32 posted on 10/25/2015 9:52:43 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: LurkingSince'98; ealgeone
Who would have thought that Catholics think that Scripture, the very words that Jesus Himself spoke, are considered a * fairytale*?

Just when you think you heard it all....

John 5:24

Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

33 posted on 10/25/2015 9:57:30 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Today is the day of salvation.

Are you saying that God cannot now determine if someone truly believes in their heart at this very moment?

What is God waiting for to figure it out?

Isn’t He omniscient, knowing the beginning from the end, standing outside time?

Do you think that He already doesn’t know how our lives end up playing out, or does He have to wait until we die to see how we did?


34 posted on 10/25/2015 10:01:30 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Without the Spirit of God in a person’s life, no one is capable of doing any really good work, untainted by sin.

All our rightesouness is as filthy rags in the sight of God because of our sin staining them.


35 posted on 10/25/2015 10:07:06 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone
"It really comes to do you believe God's Word?"

As opposed to millions and millions of super smart people,veritable galaxies of superstar theologians over the last two thousand odd years,over so much settled science and over so much settled theology? Let's face it,how could so many people over so long a time have something so important so wrong? The world and all that's in it is simply too big too fail!

8-/

"Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown" (Rev 3:11)

36 posted on 10/26/2015 2:05:39 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure:for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: metmom
"All our rightesouness is as filthy rags in the sight of God because of our sin staining them."

Amen and thinking we might bring something good of our own to that table really would be akin to standing on the sun expecting to cast a shadow.Our God is an all consuming fire.

Thankyou for those scriptures metmom!

37 posted on 10/26/2015 2:17:27 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure:for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: metmom
"Now unto Him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen" (Jude 1:24-25)

"....for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day." (2 Tim 1:12)

"....Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind." (Romans 14:5)

"For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his." (Heb 4:10)

38 posted on 10/26/2015 2:29:33 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure:for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Tenacious 1

Yes, space aliens could be God’s people...read CS Lewis book Out of the silent Planet...

or his Narnia books.


39 posted on 10/26/2015 3:28:09 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: mitch5501
As opposed to millions and millions of super smart people,veritable galaxies of superstar theologians over the last two thousand odd years,over so much settled science and over so much settled theology? Let's face it,how could so many people over so long a time have something so important so wrong? The world and all that's in it is simply too big too fail!

How could so many have it wrong? Ask the Muslims, the Hindus, the Mormons, etc.

40 posted on 10/26/2015 5:12:01 AM PDT by ealgeone
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