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Pope tells Synod Fathers to learn from the Holy Family
cna ^ | October 3, 2015 | Ann Schneible

Posted on 10/03/2015 2:11:54 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Salvation; Mrs. Don-o

Pope Francis meets and greets homo family; let’s the meeting be recorded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDohm5I7kFg

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Francis disavows any support for Kim Davis’ stance on homo “marriage”.


21 posted on 10/03/2015 8:21:33 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Salvation

Yes. Yes x 1000,000.+


22 posted on 10/03/2015 8:58:38 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: ebb tide
"The Vatican" tried to both minimize and maximize this meeting. If this seems like a dose of mind-numbing double-talk, it sure is, because "The Vatican" is kind of a convoluted term here.

Abp. Carlo Maria Vigano, the Papal Nuncio who set up the meeting ---at Pope Francis' request LINK), according to Austin Ruse at Breitbart---- is a member of "the Vatican" --- namely, the Vatican diplomatic corps. As is, of course, Pope Francis, who reportedly pre-approved the meeting.

Likewise Fr. Federico Lombardi is a member of "the Vatican" as director of the Holy See Press Office.

What Lombardi himself said, was calibrated lawyer-talk but not a denial or repudiation: he simply confirmed that the meeting took place (true), said it was one of many such meetings (which is true), and the Pope Francis did not necessarily endorse the "intricacies" of her case (which is no more than what Kim Davis' lawyer Matt Staver himself said.)

What erupted thereafter was a bursting pustule of detraction and calumny against Kim Davis, glomming onto Lombardo’s rather spare statement as a news-hook but heavy with humiliating innuendo, malicious speculation and outright insult. Kim Davis was said to have “blindsided” or “swindled” or “duped” the Pope, she was said to be a hater, illiterate. Anonymous sources said she had not met with the Pope at all. Unnamed “Vatican figures” (who knows who they are? Looking around for Cardinal Baal!) said there was a “sense of regret” that the Pope had met with Kim Davis at all.

But neither Pope Francis nor Lombardi said that.

So what did Pope Francis say when he was asked explicitly about those who will not cooperate with gay marriage?

Conscientious objection is a right that is a part of every human right. It is a right. And if a person does not allow others to be a conscientious objector, he denies a right. Conscientious objection must enter into every juridical structure because it is a right, a human right.”
The ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent asked if that includes government workers, and Pope Francis reiterated his support for conscientious objection:

"It is a human right and if a government official is a human person, he has that right.”
This incident has certainly exposed the presence of wolves in the Vatican sheepfold. It likewise sketched an increasingly clear illustration of the fact that there is a big difference between an Apostolic hierarchy and a clerical bureaucracy.

I would applaud, praise God and lead cheers for St. Michael the Archangel, to see the "clerical bureaucracy" fall.

23 posted on 10/04/2015 10:25:58 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Gay marriage...a machination of the Father of Lies to confuse and deceive the children of God.")
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