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Pope tells Synod Fathers to learn from the Holy Family
cna ^ | October 3, 2015 | Ann Schneible

Posted on 10/03/2015 2:11:54 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 10/03/2015 2:11:54 PM PDT by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 10/03/2015 2:12:16 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: NYer

Dear Pontiff, please provide us with your definition of what is meant by the term ‘Family’, after that a ‘Moral Family’. We’re all ears and have learned to presume nothing with you.


3 posted on 10/03/2015 2:16:00 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: NYer
I don't remember Benedict or John Paul II or Paul VI condescending to the faithful and clergy like this guy.

I know it's a cliche' but he and Obama are so much alike.

4 posted on 10/03/2015 2:26:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Is the Pope Catholic?)
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To: lee martell

H seems to be following the liberal “suspension of disbelief” model, where he doesn’t outright condemn murder of fetuses and gay marriage, while refusing to condemn them either.

He’s signaling the immorality and death cult, while trying to get the faithful to follow along without panicking them.

He is slowly turning up the heat on the frog in the pot.


5 posted on 10/03/2015 2:30:17 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: lee martell; NYer
Define the family? Oh. Pope Francis is subtle, all right, but I think that I can detect a pattern here:

New Pope Francis called homosexual ‘marriage’ a ‘machination of the Father of Lies’

Pope Francis: Gender Theory Is a Threat to Society

Pope: Marriage between man and woman is threatened by gender ideology

Pope Francis: “Children have a ‘Right’ to a Mother and Father”

Pope Francis: marriage inscribed in creation (Man/Woman)

A Letter to Pope Francis (Pope defends man-woman marriage)

Pope: Men, Women “Different”

Pope Rejects ‘So-Called Gender Theory’

Pope Francis Defends Human Nature Against Gender Radicals

Pope's Shocking Hitler Youth Comparison (Pope blasts gender theory)

Vatican says 'no' to transsexual godparents amid Spain controversy

The Family As God wills it, one man and one woman, is being deformed Pope Francis Against Gay Marriage, Gay Adoption

Pope Francis supports Slovak effort to ban gay ‘marriage’, adoption

6 posted on 10/03/2015 2:30:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Fido969; lee martell
Pope Francis has condemned abortion in the strongest terms, many, many times.

You don't remember reading or seeing that in the MSM?

Imagine my surprise....



“All life has inestimable value even the weakest and most vulnerable, the sick, the old, the unborn and the poor, are masterpieces of God’s creation, made in his own image, destined to live forever, and deserving of the utmost reverence and respect.”

— Pope Francis supporting Catholics taking part in annual Day for Life in Britain and Ireland July 28, 2013


“Let’s say ‘Yes’ to life and ‘No’ to death.”

Pope Francis supporting Catholics taking part in March for Life in France Jan. 19, 2014

“Every child who, rather than being born, is condemned unjustly to being aborted, bears the face of Jesus Christ, bears the face of the Lord, who even before he was born, and then just after birth, experienced the world’s rejection."
Pope Francis to Catholic healthcare professionals and gynecologists Sept. 20, 2013

“Unfortunately, what is thrown away is not only food and dispensable objects, but often human beings themselves, who are discarded as ‘unnecessary.’ For example, it is frightful even to think there are children, victims of abortion, who will never see the light of day."

Pope Francis speech to diplomats Jan. 13, 2014

“Among the vulnerable for whom the church wishes to care with particular love and concern are unborn children, the most defenseless and innocent among us. Nowadays efforts are made to deny them their human dignity and to do with them whatever one pleases, taking their lives and passing laws preventing anyone from standing in the way of this. …Precisely because this involves the internal consistency of our message about the value of the human person, the church cannot be expected to change her position on this question… It is not ‘progressive’ to try to resolve problems by eliminating a human life…”

Pope Francis’ Apostolic Exhortation Evangelii Gaudium #213-214

“The victims of this [throwaway] culture are precisely the weakest and most fragile human beings — the unborn, the poorest, the sick and elderly, the seriously handicapped, etc. — who are in danger of being ‘thrown away,’ expelled from a system that must be efficient at all costs."

Pope Francis speech to a delegation from the Dignitatis Humanae Institute Dec. 7, 2013

“We are called to reach out to those who find themselves in the existential peripheries of our societies and to show particular solidarity with the most vulnerable of our brothers and sisters: the poor, the disabled, the unborn ....”

Pope Francis message to the 10th General Assembly of the World Council of Churches dated Oct. 4, 2013

The fight against abortion is “part of the battle in favor of life from the moment of conception until a dignified, natural end. This includes the care of the mother during pregnancy, the existence of laws to protect the mother postpartum, and the need to ensure that children receive enough food, as well as providing healthcare throughout the whole length of life…”

…On science being aware it is human life: “A pregnant woman isn’t carrying a toothbrush in her belly, or a tumor…We are in the presence of a human being.”

In book of interviews “Pope Francis: His Life in His Own Words”


“The right to life is the first human right. Abortion is killing someone that cannot defend him or herself.”

Pope Francis with Rabbi Abraham Skorka in book “On Heaven and Earth”


"Caring for life from the beginning to the end. What a simple thing, what a beautiful thing..So, go forth and don't be discouraged. Care for life. It's worth it."

Pope Francis, from a homily celebrating Aug. 31 feast of St. Raymond Nonnatus, patron saint of expectant mothers.


7 posted on 10/03/2015 2:41:30 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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The belief system I see here makes me pine for Pope Benedict. If Francis is saying these things, his actions tend to negate whatever faith has been inspired by the words spoken. In other words, how in world can this Pope justify his gleeful acceptance of a COMMUNIST CROSS as a gift? This happened last summer. I thought it was a made up satire, but no, it did happen.


8 posted on 10/03/2015 3:00:47 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I wish he’s taken that up with Nancy Pelosi.


9 posted on 10/03/2015 3:03:53 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: lee martell

I think that’s a problem. He called the gays he welcomed in private audience a “family.”

There are certainly many ways non-married people of both sexes or one sex can live together...not only monastic communities, but even extended family relationships or simply friendships...and even include children. This is fine, and these people have never, ever been excluded from the Church or cast out by the Lord.

The problem is that setting up gays as the same as a man and a woman is a fundamental error, and he’s got to clarify this. He says things about “gender ideology,” and then he invites “transsexuals” (in quotes because there’s no such thing - you can’t change your sex) to the Vatican after they have attacked their priest and their bishop, has himself filmed hugging these gay guys and their entourage, and then rejects and humiliates this poor woman in Kentucky who finally had to stand up and reject the state’s degradation of marriage.

However, do remember that the Church authorities killed Joan of Arc because she was inconvenient to them. He’s in that mold. Authoritarian. Only this time on the left.


10 posted on 10/03/2015 3:06:05 PM PDT by livius
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To: lee martell
It certainly was bizarre when Evo Morales gave Pope Francis that hammer-and-sickle crucifix. One the one hand, in a literal sense, that is exactly what Communists have done wherever they have assumed power — crucified Christ by working to violently destroy Christianity and murder Christians. zjesus nailed to a swastika would have conveyed something similar: the crucifixion of Christ on the cross of man's idolatous and murderous cruelty.

But "the literal sense" doesn't rule here. Rather, I would say, a malevolent ambiguity rules. "What does it mean?" "Well, comrade, what do you think it means?"

You can practically smell the sulphur.

11 posted on 10/03/2015 3:15:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Gay marriage...a machination of the Father of Lies to confuse and deceive the children of God.")
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To: lee martell

Actions do in fact speak louder than words.


12 posted on 10/03/2015 3:45:13 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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Like its 2014 precursor, the focus of the 2015 Synod of Bishops will be the family, this time with the theme: “The vocation and mission of the family in the Church and the modern world.

Uh-oh. Reminiscent of Vatican II and the "Church in the Modern World"

13 posted on 10/03/2015 3:57:48 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You can practically smell the sulphur.

Why do you think Francis can't smell the sulphur?

14 posted on 10/03/2015 6:08:14 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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Oh, I think he can smell the sulfur. He has preached more about the wiles of the devil, the need for exorcism, the need for angelic protection, than any pontiff in modern memory. He knows that Satan is the evil entity behind abortion and sodomy --- and every other sin that sickens and kills the soul.

There's a very, very strange struggle going on.

Tagline.

15 posted on 10/03/2015 6:20:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Gay marriage...a machination of the Father of Lies to confuse and deceive the children of God.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Francis and his Nod to Sin
16 posted on 10/03/2015 6:31:46 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NYer

so, I wonder which FReeper created the keyword “sinnod?”


17 posted on 10/03/2015 6:43:55 PM PDT by Coleus (For the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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Probably one who had foresight of Francis’ shenanigans almost a year ago.


18 posted on 10/03/2015 7:24:43 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NYer; Coleus; Mrs. Don-o

>>It is very easy to forget that Mary would have been an unwed mother were it not for Joseph. It is also easy to forget that Joseph was not the natural father of Jesus but became his foster father and protector, along with his new bride Mary. And the circumstances surrounding the birth of Jesus should fill us all with a deep respect and empathy for the poor and unwed mothers of our day. Taken all together, the first family of Christianity reminds us that there is no such thing as normal. Every family is different and this means that we need to broaden our understanding of family life beyond TV sitcoms and applaud the virtues of family living wherever we find them: two parent families, single parent families, blended families, families with two mommies or two daddies and adoptive families.<<Msgr. Paul V. Garrity

http://www.lepantoinstitute.org/faith-and-life/open-letter-to-cardinal-omalley/

Msgr. Garrity is still in good standing with his superior, Cardinal Sean O’Malley, who happens to be a select member of Francis’ Gang o’ Nine.


19 posted on 10/03/2015 7:52:56 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: lee martell

Define a family? Look to the Holy Family always.


20 posted on 10/03/2015 8:03:33 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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