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What it means that Pope Francis met Kim Davis
CRUX ^ | 09/30/2015 | By John L. Allen Jr.

Posted on 09/30/2015 2:30:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

ROME – If anyone suspected that Pope Francis didn’t really mean the strong words he spoke on religious freedom last week in the United States – that he was phoning it in, while his real concerns were elsewhere – claims that he held a private meeting with Kentucky county clerk Kim Davis certainly should lay that suspicion to rest.

The meeting was first reported by Robert Moynihan of Inside the Vatican magazine. A Vatican spokesman said Wednesday, “I do not deny that the meeting took place, but I have no comments to add,” which, in effect, is a way of allowing the report to stand.

Taken together with his unscheduled stop to see the Little Sisters of the Poor, the Davis encounter means Francis has expressed personal support to leading symbols of the two most contentious fronts in America’s religious freedom debates – the contraception mandates imposed by the Obama administration, and conscientious objection on gay marriage.

Before unpacking what it means, let’s roll out the necessary caveats.

First of all, the fact that someone arranged a brief encounter between Francis and Davis does not necessarily mean that Francis initiated the contact, or even that he necessarily grasps all the dimensions of her case. By her own account it was an extremely brief greeting, just long enough for the pope to tell Davis to “stay strong” and to give her a rosary. Asking for prayers and offering a blessed rosary to individuals following a meeting is a customary gesture for Pope Francis.

It would be over-interpreting things to read the meeting as a blanket endorsement of everything Davis has said or done.

In addition, we don’t yet know how Francis sees the balance between honoring one’s conscience and upholding one’s responsibilities as a public official, because he hasn’t addressed that question at any length.

The fact that the Vatican has chosen not to comment probably means, at least in part, that they don’t want to be dragged into a detailed discussion of Davis’ situation.

That said, there’s no way to view the encounter other than as a broad gesture of support by the pope for conscientious objection from gay marriage laws, especially taken in tandem with his statement aboard the papal plane that following one’s conscience in such a situation is a “human right” – one, he insisted, that also belongs to government officials.

So what does it mean?

First, it means that Francis has significantly strengthened the hand of the US bishops and other voices in American debates defending religious freedom.

In the wake of a massively successful trip in which Francis was lauded for his stands on issues ranging from climate change to immigration to fighting poverty, it will be more difficult for anyone to wrap themselves in the papal mantle without at least acknowledging his concerns vis-à-vis religious freedom.

Second, Francis may also have smoothed the waters in advance for round two of the Synod of Bishops on the family, which opens on Sunday.

Last time around, the question of how welcoming the Church ought to be to gays and lesbians was a major flashpoint, in part because conservatives worried it might lessen the Church’s resolve to resist a “redefinition” of marriage. By holding the Davis meeting, Francis has probably reassured conservatives that he’s not priming the pump for going soft on same-sex marriage.

Ironically, the Davis meeting may actually increase the odds of the synod recommending a more pastoral approach to same-sex relationships, since there won’t be the same fear about where such an opening might lead.

Third, Francis has also debunked impressions of a rift with the American bishops when it comes to the “wars of culture.”

Yes, Francis called the bishops to spurn “harsh and divisive” rhetoric and to embrace dialogue as a method. That does not imply, however, that he believes the substance of their concerns is mistaken, and by meeting both the Little Sisters of the Poor and Davis he drove that point home.

Fourth and finally, the Davis meeting confirms that the US trip amounted to the public debut of “Francis 2.0,” meaning a pope more clearly perceived as standing in continuity with Catholic teaching and tradition, as well as in solidarity both with previous popes and with the bishops.

To put the point in crudely political terms, Francis is a figure who utterly defies the usual left/right divides, equally capable of meeting Kim Davis and embracing poor immigrant children at a Harlem school – seeing both as part of a continuum of concern for human dignity.

That will be a source of consolation to some and consternation to others, but in any event it’s now officially part of the Francis narrative.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; kimdavis; popefrancis; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 09/30/2015 2:30:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The American press sure didn’t run with this.


2 posted on 09/30/2015 2:30:48 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

I also think its strange that our media didn’t report this.

The media gave saturation coverage of the pope’s visit to America. Its surprising that he apparently sneaked away at some point to visit her.


3 posted on 09/30/2015 2:32:43 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Maybe, and where was his anti Planned Parenthood and anti Radical Islam parts of his speech.

I missed those as well.


4 posted on 09/30/2015 2:36:03 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It means that Freeper evangelicals are bummed...


5 posted on 09/30/2015 2:37:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: SeekAndFind
First, it means that Francis has significantly strengthened the hand of the US bishops and other voices in American debates defending religious freedom.

I don't know, meeting in secret and in private with her, then avoiding all discussion of it publicly doesn't seem like a ringing endorsement of her cause. Seems like a "I feel your pain" moment and not much more.

6 posted on 09/30/2015 3:00:40 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (The only fiscally sound thing dems ever did: create a state run media they don't have to pay for)
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To: pepsi_junkie

He paid a surprise visit to the Little Sisters of the Poor too.

What’s the message? Obama, these people are innocent of sin — leave them alone. Both cases. Call off your lawyers and the ACLU.


7 posted on 09/30/2015 3:03:52 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: A CA Guy

That’s ‘cause we have the sneakiest pope ever.


8 posted on 09/30/2015 3:08:58 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What a conflict. On the one hand you have His Holiness’s strong statements in support of immigration and against climate change. On the other hand you have His Holiness’s meeting with Kim Davis, and standing against gay marriage, as well as Little Sister’s of the Poor, showing his solidarity with their stand against Obamacare.


9 posted on 09/30/2015 3:17:14 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Salvation
Obama, these people are innocent of sin — leave them alone.

Why didn't Francis tell that to Obama, in his face, in front of a worldwide audience; both at the White House and before Congress?

Francis meets with the murderous Castro brothers and Obama in public and publicly praises all three; yet he sneaks off to meet with persecuted Christians in secret. But like always, his secret "mercy meetings" are immediately made known, after the fact.

10 posted on 09/30/2015 4:35:01 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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