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How the Islamic World was Forged [History of Why Christians Defect to Islam]
Front Page Mag ^ | 8/31/2015 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 09/01/2015 10:47:10 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

What made non-Muslims convert to Islam, leading to the creation of the Islamic world? Early historical sources—both Muslim and non-Muslim—make clear that the Islamic empire was forged by the sword; that people embraced Islam, not so much out of sincere faith, but for a myriad of reasons—from converting in order to enjoy the boons of being on the “winning team” to converting in order to evade the dooms of being on the “losing team.”

Modern day Muslims and other apologists—primarily in academia, government, and mainstream media—reject this idea. They argue that the non-Muslims who embraced Islam did so from sheer conviction; that the ancestors of today’s 1.5 billion Muslims all converted to Islam due to its intrinsic appeal; that the modern day coercion and persecution committed by the Islamic State and other organizations is an aberration.

Of course, as mentioned, the primary texts of history are full of anecdotes demonstrating the opposite. However, because ours is an increasingly ahistorical society, in this essay I endeavor to show that sheer common sense alone validates what history records, namely, that the Islamic world and its populace was forged through violent coercion. To do so, I will use Egypt—one of the most important Muslim majority nations and my ancestral homeland—as a paradigm. I will show how a historic fact that Islam’s apologists habitually boast of—that there are still millions of Christians in Egypt (approximately 10% of the population)—is not proof of Islam’s tolerance but rather its intolerance...

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TOPICS: Current Events; History; Islam; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christianity; copts; egypt; islam
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Peace is important, but there are different types of peace. Most people seek temporal peace, which many times is at the expense of lasting peace (e.g. drugs, sin, fornication, religious compromise, etc.). They throw out love, truth, and faith, to grasp a fleeting temporal peace, not realizing that it only makes lasting peace more difficult to obtain. The paradox is that lasting peace must be fought for because everything in the world militates against it.

True lasting peace only comes from one place: the Prince of Peace (Jesus Christ). It is His peace that keeps people from seeking the temporal fleeting peace that brings destruction. Can Christians have peace with Islam? The religion that says the entire world must be subdued for Allah, the Nabataean Moon god, and that Mohammed is a true prophet, and that Jesus Christ ONLY a prophet, and that Jews are pigs and monkeys, and that at night the earth descends into a muddy bog. Insanity!?! The answer Christianity cannot make peace with Islam. The answer is it cannot, unless it submits to Allah.

The Bible shows that those who are willing to fight for eternal peace through faith, hope, love, and truth, will find it. But those who seek temporal peace in this world, without fighting, will only find destruction. The problem is that you need faith to fight...

1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say , Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child * ; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

1 posted on 09/01/2015 10:47:11 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Gee, I wonder why women convert?


2 posted on 09/01/2015 10:48:58 AM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Forged, you mean like how Mohammed forged a “revelation” from God?

Like that?


3 posted on 09/01/2015 10:50:05 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Most subjects of the 13th Apostle, the Byzantine Emperor,couldnt get an entry pass to the 2nd Rome.


4 posted on 09/01/2015 10:55:11 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: donna

Kidnapped, raped, her conversion may improve her status, but her children are by the Muslim rapist are considered Muslim.


5 posted on 09/01/2015 10:58:53 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: CharlesOConnell

The standard reasons people converted:
* lower taxes, not having to pay standard taxes AND Jizya
* convert so your son isn’t taken as a Jannisary (mostly Ottoman empire)
* to marry a woman you loved who was Muslim
* to get priority on inheritance of an estate, where the Muslim gets it before Christian relatives
* kidnapped, raped, children are classified as Muslim, but she gets more rights to the children if she then converts
* to automatically get divorced from a Christian spouse
* to gain the right to own weapons for self defense, tired of being preyed upon by criminals
* for the promotional opportunities, because Shariah law prevented non-Muslims from holding most positions of authority
* to get the right to multiple wives
* you’re tired of the humiliation, where the dhimmi status forces you off the road when Muslims come by, forces you to pay taxes with humiliating blows, denial of fancier clothes, limits on movement and requiring permission for many things


6 posted on 09/01/2015 11:02:58 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Jan_Sobieski

No enslavement, rape, torture and beheadings had nothing to do with it.


7 posted on 09/01/2015 11:08:30 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“Forged” was a good word choice for that headline.


8 posted on 09/01/2015 11:11:11 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: tbw2

I’ll take door number 3, Alex: fight.


9 posted on 09/01/2015 11:15:59 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Islam: The Perfect Scam...


10 posted on 09/01/2015 11:20:35 AM PDT by Does so (SCOTUS Newbies Will Imperil America...)
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To: jagusafr

This reminds me of “The Time Traveller” by Dan Simmons, describing the history that got us to this point and that we’re in for a LONG war with Islam, though too many now don’t realize it
http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm


11 posted on 09/01/2015 11:30:25 AM PDT by tbw2
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What’s so sad about that is that at this point in history, and at any point in history since about 1750, the west could have wiped Islam from the face of the earth it if wanted to, if it had the same mindset as the Muslims have, of conquest, savagery and conversion. Our morality and humanity are our biggest disadvantages in this fight. At some point, the savages will gain the upper hand, and then we will all go the way of Egypt’s Copts. Unless we get a backbone first.


12 posted on 09/01/2015 11:39:23 AM PDT by Defiant (I will vote for the candidate that the GOPe and media hate the most.)
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To: Boogieman

Exactly! ...and demonically inspired if you believe historical accounts.


13 posted on 09/01/2015 12:09:44 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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At some point, the savages will gain the upper hand, and then we will all go the way of Egypt’s Copts. Unless we get a backbone first.

I think the muzzies in the west, especially in Europe, are in for a big surprise once the natives truly get fed up. They seem to forget that Europe brought us 2 world wars, along with the associated genocide and death camps. Same goes for muzzies in the Russia and China spheres of influence. There recent, and past history makes today's islamic barbarians look like pikers when it comes to killing on a truly massive scale.

14 posted on 09/01/2015 12:32:28 PM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

These people who convert from Christianty were Christians in name only.
They were not one of us in the first place. Paul the apostle met some of this type also.


15 posted on 09/01/2015 12:53:42 PM PDT by Cottonpatch
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To: Turbo Pig

Not likely.
Moehammedans have the moe-mentum and zeal.

The End Times (temporarily) favors the forces of satan. Western secularists lack the conviction to resist.
Their choices are: 1) Remain Christian or non-muslim and pay jizya tax 2)Convert to islam or 3) die.

The Islamic anti-Christ will dispense with choice #1.


16 posted on 09/01/2015 1:11:36 PM PDT by Zuse (I am disrupted! I am offended! I am insulted! I am outraged!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Christianity cannot make peace with Islam.

A certain Polish king knew that.


17 posted on 09/01/2015 1:37:23 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Yes! Every croissant we eat in the mornings should remind us of this very important fact, “Islam is not interested in peace, only submission”.


18 posted on 09/01/2015 1:47:06 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Islam the DEVIL’S Religion.


19 posted on 09/01/2015 2:12:27 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Turbo Pig

Remember Americans are ARMED to the teeth.


20 posted on 09/01/2015 2:13:51 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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