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Church in Spain declares transgendered person not “suitable” to be a godparent
The Deacons Bench ^ | July 29, 2015 | Deacon Greg Kandra

Posted on 07/30/2015 1:48:26 PM PDT by NYer

From Huffington Post in Spain:

Alex Salinas is 21 years old. He was assigned female at birth, but is now living as his authentic self as a man. He is a “firm believer” and wants to be a godparent at his nephew’s baptism but the diocese of Cadiz and Ceuta is standing in his way. According to them, he is not a “suitable” person because of the life he leads, a life not “congruent with faith.”

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However, they do not find their argument to be discriminatory.The diocese says that. in responding to the petition they received from Salinas to be a godparent at the baptism, the priest maintained a “cordial conversation” with him, indicating that he must fulfill the requisites stated in the Code of Canon Law which requires that any godfather or godmother at a baptism “be Catholic, be confirmed, have received the holy sacrament of the Eucharist and, at the same time, live a life congruent with faith and the mission they are assuming.”

The statement insists that in the “long chat that protected the feelings of the applicant, the priest encouraged him to live congruently with faith” and that, despite not being a godparent at the baptism, he could participate in some way as a “spiritual godparent,” and able to encourage and help his nephew in his life of faith.

The Code of Canon Law makes it clear that it is the priest or the minister of sacrament who enforces the law and even “dissuade those who do not measure up for different reasons, for the good of the baptized, because the godparent must watch over the development of faith in the baptized and must walk with him so he might learn at his side the fundamental doctrine and morals of Christian faith.”

“To the church, I am still a woman, even though my documents of identification have changed,” explained Alex Salinas, who wants the diocese to reconsider their decision, which he took “as a kick in the stomach” because he is a “firm believer.”

Read the rest. 

I expect that the Jennerian brave new world we now live in will bring forth more situations like this.

For those who are wondering: while there is no definitive Magesterial teaching on the subject of transgenderism, the catechism offers this, in a discussion about an unrelated topic, torture:

Except when performed for strictly therapeutic medical reasons, directly intended amputations, mutilations, and sterilizations performed on innocent persons are against the moral law.

On a hunch, I suspect most advocates would probably argue that surgery to change gender is done for “strictly therapeutic medical reasons.”

Whether it’s a legitimate medical reason is something else.

The subject, you may recall, received some attention earlier this year, when Pope Francis met with a transgendered man and his partner:

Catholic teaching considers gender “reassignment” an impossibility and a violation of the Creator’s intention.

Pope Francis himself has criticized fluid notions of gender. During his in-air interview on January 19, the pope called the imposition of “gender theory” a form of “ideological colonization.”

Also, last year, Austrian Bishop Andreas Laun related that in a meeting with the pope, Francis condemned “gender ideology” as “demonic.”

Stay tuned.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda

1 posted on 07/30/2015 1:48:26 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 07/30/2015 1:48:48 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: NYer

is there a problem ???


3 posted on 07/30/2015 1:49:13 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: NYer
You can either be a "firm believer" in the faith, or you can firmly believe that you are male.

It can't be both, young lady.

4 posted on 07/30/2015 1:53:30 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: NYer

5 posted on 07/30/2015 1:55:04 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: NYer

“Assigned” female at birth? As if there were some doubt?

(I know that’s the PC phrasing - to assume that a baby’s “gender” is congruent with its visible sexual characteristics is “assigning,” in ignorance of the primacy of the mind.)


6 posted on 07/30/2015 1:57:28 PM PDT by heartwood
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“Alex Salinas is 21 years old. He was assigned female at birth,”

That has to be one of the dumbest statements I have heard! Sounds kind of like when you start to school and you are assigned a certain classroom. She developed inside her mother as a female, has always been a female and regardless of what she wants to be, is still a female although apparently a very confused one. How crazy this world is becoming??


7 posted on 07/30/2015 2:00:00 PM PDT by Happy1947
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To: Happy1947

He can be a godparent. He can be a godmother. He’s a she.

Geez, I wonder if he had it chopped off?


8 posted on 07/30/2015 2:35:30 PM PDT by goldi
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Hoping the Diocese of Cadiz will not go wobbly on this one.

The poor gal needs to get competent psychiatric help.

9 posted on 07/30/2015 2:39:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (The fundamental things apply, as time goes by.)
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To: Happy1947

Her sex was determined by the xx of her DNA.


10 posted on 07/30/2015 4:24:06 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: NYer

Good for them.


11 posted on 07/30/2015 4:50:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: HapaxLegamenon

That is a precise statement of what I was getting at. It is a shame that there are these obviously unbalanced people. Makes me wonder if the parents encouraged this and what outside factors contributed to this confusion.


12 posted on 07/30/2015 5:36:02 PM PDT by Happy1947
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Drop his/her drawers and I’ll tell you right away what he/she is.....to have a female body, with female genitalia and think that you are a male is a mental disorder....


13 posted on 07/30/2015 7:08:39 PM PDT by terycarl (, COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: CGASMIA68
"is there a problem ???"

I think this is going to be a bigger and bigger fiasco as time passes. Denominations are doing to be hassled for not wanting to perform a marriage which is illicit in God's Eyes. Here come the lawsuits, and the end of smaller churches who stick with God and His Laws at all costs. God be with the churches and clergy who remain faithful to Him!

14 posted on 07/30/2015 8:01:03 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: wideawake

Jenner can have all the treatments/surgeries out there: may live life as a woman, but several billion y chromosomes disagree...


15 posted on 07/30/2015 8:05:00 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Those who smile like nothing's wrong are fighting a battle you know nothing about. -Thomas More)
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To: goldi

No, according to the article, the transgender hasn’t had gender redo surgery. I love the part of the article where the transgender says the priest didn’t consider “him” male, even though all his documentation identify “him” as male. Well, “he” lives in California, state of the fruits, nuts, and flakes.


16 posted on 07/31/2015 11:05:39 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: NetAddicted

You’re right. It’s all so confusing.


17 posted on 08/01/2015 12:04:36 PM PDT by goldi
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