Posted on 07/24/2015 9:32:18 PM PDT by Cecilia Trent
Is the writer of this headline new to English?
Mormonism is a prime example of this, and devout Mormons will tell you that they are good people and it is ultimately up to God to weigh their worthiness. Sadly, Catholics have the same perspective problem, and the more they follow the sacraments the more they become convinced that their time in Purgatory will be shortened ... completely the antithesis of the Gospel of Grace. The law was given as a reflection of God's Righteousness, and if a man/woman comes to believe they are keeping the laws tot he letter so they will be due some Grace for that they have damned themselves through the same mechanism satan used in the Garden, namely pride in self.
What is sanctification to you?
Is it not also a work of the Holy Spirit?
The work on one’s heart is not an ‘us’ thing. It is a Him thing..
The ‘us’ that says the 10 commandments or Law are not the Kingdom rules, will be called least in the Kingdom.
His Words. Not mine..
Says nothing about justification.
It is about placement in His Kingdom. And there are three folds. This isn’t about being ‘saved’ , it is about the process of being ‘holified’ which comes after He justifies.
This is about Him giving us the Holy Spirit to separate us and set apart in this world to prepare us for His Kingdom.
Also, none of our doing..
The 30 fold are least in His Kingdom.
They get in. But they will need spirtual growth to become 100fold Priests of Zadok, like the prophet Ezekiel details in his prophecy..
The Work is all His. How much one submits to the work of the Holy Spirit in their own lives can bring 30fold or 60fold or 100fold.
Or become wayside,rocky or thorny..
Israel’s wilderness trek before they entered into the promised land can tell us a lot..and the way religion misses it also tells us a lot.
They received manna from heaven after 30 days from being justified and set free from bondage(bread of life)
They heard the law thundered down from Sinai after 60 days (not 50 like Judaism teaches)
And Moses came down the mount with the two tables of the covenant after 100 days from Israel being set free from bondage.
30- feeding on the manna from heaven
60- hearing the law of God with their ears and committing to doing them
100-having the law of God on the tablets of ones heart..
30 fold will not hear nor have his Law on their hearts.
That is why they are called least in His Kingdom.
And it is the work of the Holy Spirit and our submission that tell us where we our on own journey to His Kingdom.
He gets all the glory because it is all about Him and we just have to let Him work in us.
What a blessing to be preparing for His Kingdom to come on earth by living the Kingdom He spoke about in His ministry and parables- waiting for Him to establish it on this earth at His return.
HalleluYah!
I am not sure what you are getting at here. What Kingdom are you talking about?
The Kingdom He taught us to pray for to come on earth as it was in heaven-
The Kingdom of Heaven.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, in the earth as it is in heaven.
The Father’s Kingdom.
OK, the Kingdom of the Heavens, which Jesus discussed with his disciples, contains both wheat and tares, good fish and bad fish, etc., at this point of time, eh?
Yes
The Kingdom of Heaven can be explained in three folds too.
This 6,000 years Kingdom age we live in now, where satan has influence.
The 1,000 year millenium Kingdom to come where Satan has no influence until at the end, when he is loosed for a little while
And the eternal Kingdom, where Satan has no influence ever again.
The temple and the tabernacle has a picture of three folds too-
The outer court-30
The Holy Place-60
The Most Holy Place-100
I think lots of people don’t understand what a Kingdom is.
We have polluted, counterfeit kingdoms here full of lying, cheating kings/rulers.
His Kingdom will be the exact opposite, but no less a Kingdom
A Kingdom has at least 4 basic parts-
- King/ruler
- Territory/land
- citizens/subjects
- rules/laws to govern citizens/subjects
Israel was expecting that to come with the Messiah -they were under Rome’s (Satan) rule and were expecting it in their day.
They didn’t understand His plan and we too can be ignorant of what must come to pass.
We can look forward to a Kingdom where the King laid His life down for His people. Took the place of a servent and emptied Himself of the glory due..
That doesn’t happen in Satan’s kingdoms we see on earth.
A place where the rules will never change or be amended because He never changes..
He came and preached and taught about the Kingdom. Not sure enough people ask,seek and knock about the Kingdom.
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I know you have made quite an effort here to write out this summary. Could you tell me whose previous works you have studied upon which this schedule is based, and which you have aligned your concept?
Thanks -
It is based on the calendar in scripture and the timekeeping that showed a three fold journey by Israel.
This isn’t something you will see anywhere I suspect because it doesn’t fit the world’s understandings.
If it is out there, it isn’t in Judaism or Christianity because they use the same calendar to tell them what day it is-and it isn’t the one found in scripture..
Today on the Father’s calendar(sunday to the world)
Is the 10th day of His 5th month. The 2nd Work Day of His Week. muslims observed His 7th day Sabbath on the pope’s Friday with their friday prayers- and Judaism observed as their Sabbath, His first work day. And most in Christianity observed their Sabbath on His 2nd work day. (Quite a thing to follow/observe over time how any one of the world’s days can be His Sabbath- if people can’t see that, they won’t see all of what He showed me and how His Sabbath is still really important because it points back to Creation- not legalism) but easy to explain with the world’s calendar.
Just 11 days ago, the Feast of Weeks was to be observed if the calendar that was taught to Israel was followed. It coordinates Leviticus with Exodus and with what Ezekiel presents in 46.
The Feast of Weeks is the day that commemorates Moses coming down the mount after 40 days (when they had already been in the wilderness 60 days) with the Law on the tablets and 3,000 men killed.
It also has a parallel event in Acts 2, when on the same day, the Holy Spirit came down and 3,000 souls were saved.
Judaism and Christianity cannot see this. Their Feast of Weeks is 50 days earlier because they have used Rome’s calendar to count.
Rome’s calendar ignores an important Holy appointment He taught Israel each month- the new moon day..
Ezekiel 46 gives the plainest description of His calendar. And when that template is followed, people will see just how relying on the world for their timekeeping has allowed Israel to miss a rather big appointment every year- and how Christianity misses its birthday every year.
And if they used the calendar in scripture, and follow Israel’s journey in the scripture (as I have on my own journey), people would see how this world system has allowed people to miss some insight into parables about the Kingdom.
When that calendar in Ezekiel is followed, there is never 50 days after 7 Sabbaths like Judaism and Christianity would argue.
There will always be new moon days that will increase that number past 50 days.
That simple counting error has blinded people to Truth that the Savior hinted at in the parable.
And when the template of new moon day, 6 work days and then 7th day Sabbath is followed, like in Ezekiel, we see that His weeks will always have 6 work days before a Sabbath and any day Israel was to have a Feast, it would naturally fall on a weekly Sabbath- not a special day (except for Day of Atonement but the reason for that is Awesome!)
And that is what is supposed to happen with the Feast of Weeks also. And it does when counted correctly.
That template reflects His Creative and Redemptive Work. And that is what the Kingdom is all about.
And it is insight to how He has given 6 days of work to be completed before the 7th day. Which is described as the Sabbath.
What is cool is the story of creation ends His work on the 6th Day of the 1st week(there is a mystery/riddle in that too as it says He finished His work on the 7th Day)
The Son finished His work on the 14th day (Passover), which is the 6th day of the 2nd week.
And the work of the Holy Spirit’s work will also be completed on the 6th day of the 3rd week (21st day of month)
Each ends with the Sabbath rest.
That is where the 6000 years comes in. 6 1000 year periods. Followed by the 7th day.
What would be interesting to study is what the 4th week of His calendar (days 23-28) and the 29 day (Sabbath) represents- I haven’t studied it as I focus on this 6000 years as a prelude to the Millennium detailed in Revelation and at least hinted at in Ezekiel.
Ezekiel speaks of strange future offerings and sacrifices that are to occur on the Sabbaths and the New Moons. Shadows of things to come, as Paul says,but they point way back to the beginning too when we observe the biblical calendar and reject Rome’s calendar-
46:4Sabbath offerings- 6 lambs,1 Ram =7(6 work+1rest)
46:6 New Moon offer- 1 Bull, 6 lambs, 1 Ram=8
(1 New Moon, 6 Work,1 rest)
Those two different offerings point right back to Creation. And a mystery of what happened before the first Day when He spoke Light and called the Light Day..
Something happened to make the earth waste and void and He represents that once a month on His calendar with a New Moon Day- then His 6 Work days and His 7th day Sabbath.
Those offerings have not happened yet. That is still future.
But that simple day (New moon day), has opened up mysteries of old. Things that we can know (like the real birthday of the Savior occurred on a New Moon Day- when the sun clothed the woman and moon was under her feet) and it doesn’t stop there ..
You won’t learn this in religion. This is odd for religion because religion has too many ‘truths’ or givens they can’t let go of.
It seems the Millennium is where some real spiritual growth will occur -what we should have learned here. But because of Satan and his lies,deceit and counterfeits, we like sheep have accepted so much that just is a smidge off. With 1000 years of Satan locked away, we will fully understand what His Kingdom is all about.
Satan has been given authority to do just what he has been doing because we all sinned and fallen short..
And it all points to His Creative and Redemptive Work.
The less His people think tomorrow (or today depending on where one lives) is ‘Monday’, the better they will understand just how counterfeit this age is and how Satan has deceived the entire world.
And the battle is between our ears and in our hearts first, as much as it is anywhere else.
The more conformed one is to the world and its systems, the less any of this would make sense.
And believe me, I didn’t even think like this 3 years ago- but 3 years ago I was a slave to the world and thought I was free. Now I know I am free.
And it is an odd feeling to have such a different view of so much. It seems Judaism and Christianity have been lulled to sleep except for the natural battles, while spirtual battles are raging on - that they cannot see. I see those spiritual battles and ignore most of the natural battles played out in media
I don’t know- maybe just like Adam fell into a deep sleep, for Eve to come from his side- the Body of ‘Messiah/christ’(last Adam) will need to be asleep, for His Bride to come out of Him.
I have no church(He led me out),no blog,no website, no mentor. When He led me out, I only had Him to lean on and ask,seek and knock. Quite a lot one can learn from Him if they are willing to unlearn what the world has taught us about Him. A step I didn’t know I was taking 3 years ago.
One thing God does is the hardening of hearts to bring about His greater purpose in fullfilling his promises.
Count yourself blessed to lean toward the right in these days I say. Cheeers.
Please tell me where the unalterable initial point--the origin--is from which you calculate the timeline -- ?
Thanks --
Please tell me where the unalterable initial point--the origin--is from which you calculate the timeline -- ?
Thanks --
I am not sure most see today as His 3rd day, so people may see parts, but the fullness of what He was teaching Israel in the wilderness is lost on us today.
When I tell people the Savior’s life events (birth, circumcision, dedication, baptism, death, burial and resurrection ) all fall on holy appointed times He taught Israel in the wilderness, I get silence as it is contrary to what we all were taught.
It is amazing. Like the Word literally became flesh,- which I think we would hope to see if we dug deep..
The 30/60/100 piece would be new also because Judaism teaches us it was 50 days, not 60, that the law was given. And as long as someone is in Judaism, Christianity or offshoots, they are going to congregate and follow the crowd. I am blessed not to do that. Not by choice! I was content following the crowd, but He led me to question the crowd.
Nobody will see it if they don’t follow the Exodus along and take care to pay attention to the ‘timing’ of things- most of us read over those parts but because I gave been following the basic biblical calendar in the scriptures( with the clock He places in the sky), things pop out.
Not sure what you mean by timeline but if you mean Israel in the wilderness, it all begins with the 14th day of His 1st month-Passover
If you mean Creation, well, the only thing I can say is that I believe that Christianity was to be given 3,000 years to live the Kingdom.
(the parable of the woman-church? and the three meaaures of meal with leaven)
Christianity is only going to be given 2000 years to leaven the Kingdom before His return-christianity is not getting closer to the Kingdom- it is drawing further away.
And if you stick with me till the end, His Heavens can give us a hint as to when it will all go down or what the signs will be when we are really close..
We also have His words about cutting the time ‘short’ and if He didn’t,no flesh would be saved. It speaks of tribulation but one could see since His Ascension, His people and this world have been undergoing tribulation.
His First Disciples had miracles performed in thier midst after His Ascension. The Kingdom was here on earth with them.
That doesn’t happen anymore. It should. We should have been expecting those to continue but they did not
Again, we are getting close to the end of the 2,000 years that would wrap up this 6,000 year period.
Hosea, the prophet has an interesting verse -6:2
Come, and let us return to the Lord,
For He has torn, but He will heal us,
He has stricken, but He will bind us up.
AFTER TWO DAYS, He will revive us,
And on the third day He will raise us up,
That we may live in His sight.
The Messiah finished His Work on the 14th day (6th work day), laid in the Tomb and rested on the 15th day(7th day Sabbath- even in death obeyed the Sabbath), and rose from the grave, the 3rd day, (16th Day- first Day of the Week)
He was dead for two days. (14th and 15th)
And Leviticus tells us any sacrifice not consumed by the 3rd day, is an abomination (lev 7:17-18)
Two days, 2000 years.
Raise us up the 3rd day. (The 3rd 3000 years)
Scholars differ on the year of His death, burial and resurrection so nobody knows for sure- and He made it plain that we don’t know the day or hour, but even people in Messianic circles see that as a hint to Trumpets, but you won’t see me predicting!
But, if you are still with me, He has placed some cool signs in the Heavens, set to His Feasts and His prophecies that would be a great study-
And it will sound like astrology but that is Satan’s counterfeit. Astronomy is the study that is real. But that study, combined with scripture is telling-if we can ignore astrology and see them as His signs, we would be able to do as the wisemen did when they knew the King was born- they saw His star..
For instance, historians say that Israel used to observe the Feast of Passover when the sun was traveling through what the English world would call the Ram (one of the mazzaroths in Job- constellations -zodiac aries in astrology)
That is where the sun was located for the spring equinox so it was at that time Israel observed its spring Feast.
When the Ram is number 1, number 7 (fall feasts)of the Mazzaroth/constellations is the Scales(Libra).
It looks like the Scales of justice one would see in those statues of lady justice wearing a blindfold.
That would have been occurring in His sky while Israel was observing His Day of Atonement and Tabernacles.
The Ram(adult LamFeasts, scale( atoning- leveling the tilted balance of sin)
Is quite a prophetic sign He placed in His sky while they were to be observing His Feasts, commemorating the Lamb slain and the wiping out of sin)
Fast forward to today and those signs are not in the same place. They have moved. Well, the earth scientists say, wobbles and because of that wobble, the signs up there are not in the same place- the scientists call it the precession of the equinox.
Not a biblical term, but what it does in the sky while Israel observes their Feasts today, is prophetic.
While Israel observes its Passover today, the two Fish (astrologers call it Pisces) is the sign that holds the spring equinox.
If we count to 7 for His Fall Feasts in the 7th month, the Woman (astrologers call it Virgo) will have the sun traveling through that constellation.
Passover- Two Fish (Fishers of men)
Atonement- the Woman/Bride/church?
That is more than coincidence..that is a new testament witness to Israel!
This doesn’t take much study. I used a free ap for my tablet that shows me the movememts of all those dots up there. (sun,moon,stars,planets)
Scripture says He ordained them. We can see how if we know when and where to look.
What comes next after a couple more wobbles of the earth , or one big earth wobble, is those signs will appear to move again.
And what that happens, Israel will be observing the Passover when the sun is traveling through the ‘Water Bearer’ (Aquarius to astrologers) and they will be observing Atonement and Tabernacles when the sun is traveling through the Lion (Leo to astrologers)
I will pour out my spirit on all flesh (water bearer)?
Return of the Lion of Judah!?
All up there in His sky, set to His Feasts-
appointed days He taught Israel in the wilderness,before they ever got to the promised land.
I spent so much time studying His Feasts in Leviticus, following His calendar, trying to search for Truth. Trying to see what was going on up there in His skyI understand things I never would have if I called today Monday. That is why I found Revelation 12(the woman) in His sky last September 26, 2014.
Just watching.
And that sign was a sign of a new moon day - and the fact Judaism and Christianity had it as just another day, spoke volumes to me- it confirmed how Judaism has allowed the world’s calendar to set their Feasts and even postpone things when they conflict with their Saturday.
People won’t see this if they are locked into the world system. He led me to quit my wordly job and take a job that He ordained for me, for a season. That took faith.
All of it takes faith. Everything we do takes faith steps. People call today Monday because they have faith in whoever created the calendar.
I didn’t want to have faith in counterfeits and was unafraid to ask,seek and knock - and it is quite humbling how much I was deceived.
And I am no smarter today. I just know where to look now and who to ask- and was willing to follow Him wherever He led me..
And it is all about Him.
His Creative and Redemptive Work.
Not sure I answered your question !
Well, as inspatial mathematics, I was looking for some fixed, immobile point in time from which to count days and years. I will have to ponder on your framework of time calculations.
But right away I see a flaw in the estimate of how long Jesus' soul, spirit, and body were parted from each other. From the account of Moses, writing as directed by Yehovah Elohim, that a yom is evening and morning--sundown to sundown--not midnight to midnight.
The Lamb of God was slain on the day of preparation according to the Law, and rose from the dead ones with His body, soul, and spirit rejoined on the first day of the week.
I believe beyond the shadow of a doubt that is counted as three days, as for Jonah, as He prophesied. Do you agree? If not, why?
I disagree,but is because I questioned even how the world told time on this journey.
And questioned Him on when a day begins- and the answer came back ‘day’ begins in the morning at first light, if I understand Creation correctly.
Which was a pretty plain way to see it all- again, something that seems so logical to me now but the world has different views. And it changed how I saw the death,burial and resurrection of Yahshua. And the sign of Jonah. Which I tried really hard to make it literal (to discredit Rome- the answer came back Rome’s template is right but their days are wrong)
The one time it says evening to evening for the Sabbath refers to the 9th day of the 7th month- a special sabbath, at evening till the 10th day at evening - one day only.
Because that Sabbath involved fasting,the fact they worked sunup to sundown and would have a meal after work- He was telling them not to eat on the 9th after work (in the evening) so it was a full 24 fast.and they would start to feel it in their stomachs that first evening as their bodies were used to eating in the evening after they worked.
I think religion has taken and run with that and started all their days in the evening, but I think scripture shows a different pattern.
scripture gives us hints to a day beginning at light and that His Sabbath ‘day’ is really only the 12 hours of daylight- except for the day of atonement ( and why it doesn’t say there was evening, morning the 7th day ,like it did for His other days)
He called the Light Day..
Then came evening(dusk,twilight in Hebrew)
Then came morning(break of dawn in Hebrew)
That Hebrew word denotes twilight/dusk - but twilight/dusk exists after their was light-not before.
There must be light before one gets to twilight (just common sense)or in one concordance, the fading of the day- strongs 6153) light comes first with that definition.
When we read the order, Light,Evening, Morning-
That could be explained as chronological:
New Light (Day)- Less Light or fading of the day(Evening)- No light (Dark-Night)-New Light (Morning)
1st day..
That chronological view then explains why the Messiah says there are 12 hours in the ‘day’. And that we are to walk in the Light and not in the Dark.
And again,why there is no ‘evening/morning’ in His 7th day Sabbath like the other days in Genesis.
So, with that premise,the day begins at light, but also ends at evening/dusk. (12 hours in a day as the Savior said)
But that is when ‘Night’ begins- Darkness . not a new day. That is when the Night watches occur until the morning(break of dawn)
A crude example would be cold is the absence of heat like dark is the absence of light.
They are opposites in scripture and each one has a portion of one 24 ‘hour’ day but His Day began when He spoke and Light appeared.
It flips again the world’s views upside down. But there is scripture that can defend it.
Because I believe His Days begin with Light, I believe the 14th Day ‘in the evening’, is still the 14th ‘Day’. And then the watch of the night of the 14th day follows it.
And we have an amazing supernatural occurance people can’t explain when the Lamb is being executed.
Supernatural ‘Darkness’ envelopes the land
Why? Only a guess but I think its because the Lamb, as scripture says is to be slain on the 14th day ‘at even’.
And it wasn’t ‘even’ yet at 3:00..
So to fulfill the prophecy of the Lamb slain that evening of the 14th day as Leviticus says (not the start of the 15th day) , He sent Darkness.
It is a clue/riddle that confirms my belief that scripture and Creation says the day goes Day/Night not Night/Day.
That would mean they had many hours to prepare His body for burial. One gospel even notes Joseph asked for the Lamb’s body ‘when evening had come’mark 15:42..
They had lots of spices and ointments to apply and we only assume it was done hastily because everyone says the Sabbath begins at night. But they would have had hours before the sun came up to prepare His body.
And they could have been there all night.
And also rested on the weekly and annual High Sabbath, the 15th day.all ‘day’ and through the night of the 15th day.
And if we are consistent, He was raised on the first Day, the 16th. If Day begins at morning(light), that morning doesnt begin when we see the sun. It is when the sun pierces the horizon. It is still ‘dark’ out at that time. Which fits with scripture when it speaks to it still being dark out as they went to tomb- at dawn.
As for The sign of Jonah - I tried , like I said, to discredit good Friday to Easter Sunday. And He did but in a different way then I expected.
The template Christianity uses is accurate- but the days are wrong. And when I studied it, I realized that sign of Jonah could be as much a parable as anything else He spoke to the people.
And at least a couple ways to see it outside of literal 3 days 3 nights in the Tomb.(which Ezekiel’s template disproves anyway but I had to search for deeper meaning of the sign of Jonah when it didn’t match scripture - only when we use Rome’s calendar can we make a claim He was in the tomb 3 days/3 nights and when I rejected Rome’s calendar, I rejected a literal 3 days/nights) but this is still mystery.. But some theories given some scripture.
If we accept the premise that a day begins at dawn, then He was arrested the night of the 13th day. (1 night) that is when He was first unprotected or out of the Father’s Hands. He was now in the hands of wicked men.
We have the day/night of the 14th with His farse of a trial and execution (1 Day/2 nights) again in the hands of sinners.
We have Him in the Tomb all day of the 15th (2 Days/3 Nights)
We have Him Raised on the 16th day (3 days/3 Nights) no longer bound in the ‘heart of the earth’.
We see in Genesis 6 it speaks of the wickedness of man ‘in the earth’ and his ‘heart’ is set on evil continually.
Yahshua spent 3 days/3 nights spiritually in the ‘heart’ of that wickedness. He was no longer protected by the Father and allowed to be swallowed up by men, for that time.
Another way to see the sign of Jonah is that Jerusalem is the ‘heart of the earth’. His message of repentance and forgiveness was ‘pumped’ out of Jerusalem to the rest of the earth. From its heart.
Jonah preached repentance and ninevah reprented and wasn’t destroyed 40 days later.
A greater than Jonah came to Jerusalem and they didn’t repent and 40 years later, Jerusalem was sacked. Showing the sign of Jonah and His preaching. (And some could see Ninevah itself was a three days journey so Jonah spent three days in Ninevah as it was that big a city to travel through)
Another mystery, We don’t know how many days Yahshua preached that Passion Week but is it possible He preached for 3 days? The 11th, 12, and 13th?
Just a couple ways to see Jonah and if we ask, seek and knock,He will show us the meaning(s) but scripture helped prove it wasn’t 3 days in the Tomb (the template Ezekiel shows, He couldn’t have been in the Tomb 3 days)
Could we see it as yet another parable? I do.
But it is that study of the sign of Jonah that led me to understand that the 14th day of every month is the 6th workday and preparation day for the weekly Sabbath- in every month.
And when Passover lands on a Monday like it did in 2014, the weekly Sabbath is a Tuesday and ‘the first day of the week ‘ would be Wednesday..
And that is where Rome counterfeits His timekeeping! They have led people to think Friday is always the 6th day. That is not true. It is on their calendar but their calendar ignores the part the New Moon Day plays in setting each month’s count (like Ezekiel 46 hints to)
And Rome, because they ignore that New Moon, have muslims, Jews, Christians, atheists, secular humanists, all working and worshipping from their counterfeit calendar, hiding His New Moons, His Sabbaths and the plain gospel Paul taught - Passover(14th day), Unleavened Bread (15th day) and First Fruits (16th day) -
Versus another gospel(good Friday, Holy Saturday,Easter Sunday) based on Romes catechism and calendar.
People can still believe the Savior laid His life down on a ‘Wednesday’ like I used to, trying to use ‘evening to evening’ and Saturday being the ‘sabbath’ (been there) to make Jonah work. but it wouldn’t change the fact that Leviticus,Ezekiel and Genesis show 14day/night/15day/night/16thday fits and all a Wednesday death would do is make ‘Friday’ the Resurrection Day.. Which would mess up both Judaism and Christianity’ story.
That template is what Rome uses correctly- but they have substituted the real days for their own. Changing times and laws as Daniel prophecies detailed.
It is why I say I met Him as Roman Jesus but He didn’t let me stay there. He didn’t let me stay locked into Rome’s timekeeping because He showed me through Scripture and His Creation how this world is full of counterfeits.
And why I know the 15th days are not only annual Sabbaths in the 1st and 7th months,but weekly Sabbaths in every month- and they are counted from the New Moon .
even if it lands on a ‘Tuesday’ like it did the day after Passover in 2014 or ‘Sunday’ like it should have been in 2015 (instead it was moved back to Saturday-postponement rule for Judaism)..
The rules religion has for Sabbath’s-they will mess with the days one year and not the next, depending on when they fall on Rome’s week. designed not to conflict with Rome’s appointed Saturday Sabbath’ but if scripture and Creation is the only guide, Rome’s counterfeit calendar gets exposed for setting up false premises from the start.
Because I don’t accept Rome’s calendar, I didn’t accept their premise the day begins at midnight.
And then I searched the scriptures to see when His Days began. And although one place the Sabbath was evening to evening, it was only one Sabbath a year that I saw applied to that scripture.
It helps to see lots of Day/night sequence in scripture.
We also had confirmation with the manna from heaven that came in the mornings.
And the quail came after the sun set down on the 15th day in Exodus 16- which shadows a weekly Sabbath where we are to rest, as He rested- until the evening when He did work and brought the quail in)
Which meant the manna came the next ‘day’(tomorrow)
And we have Moses later in Exodus 16:23 saying ‘Tomorrow’ is the Sabbath.
Not ‘later this evening’ as they were collecting their manna on the 6th day.
A completely different way to tell time.a way that is consistent. And an understanding why the Day of Atonement was a special Sabbath that begins on the 9th day in the evening (still the 9th day) till the 10th at evening( still the 10th day by this reckoning of day/night.
But again, I see it all differently because I wanted scripture and Creation to show me and willing to see where I was deceived..and I saw reasons for why the world does it the way it does- and why the battle is as much between our own ears and in our own hearts..
Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 spiritually happens, every day.
When scripture can prove that the 14th day of every month is the 6th and final work day and the 15th day is always the 7th Day, people will see just how counterfeit the world is..
Christianity inheritantly understands that Yahshua finished His Work on the 6th Day.(that is why good Friday is what it is)
And Judaism knows that the 14th Day is the preparation Day for the Sabbath of the 15th.
When will both realize that Passover the 14th day(regardless of what day it lands on in Rome’s calendar), is the 6th Work Day of every one of Hia months-and the 15th Day(regardless of what day it falls on) is the weekly Sabbath in every one of His months- AND the annual Sabbath in the 1st and 7th?
They won’t as long as Rome controls the times and laws.
To see it and live it,requires committing to coming out of the world system.
And that faith step would be a very big step that would bring life changes that would seem to have too much a cost.
I had made the step prior to learning any of this so He led me here- But I would never had seen this without Him leading me out of my own world into His.
And if we are honest,lots of people are comfortable in this world(especially America) and wouldn’t want to take/make such drastic changes even if they believe in Words like, Remember the Sabbath.
This world appears to be already set up for people of different faiths- Muslim, Jews, Christians- all have a set aside day of every week to do their worshipping and resting and also days to do their playing and their working
But it is all set to Rome’s clock. And it is quite a counterfeit that can’t be seen until we hold it up to His Light (just like cashiers checking for marks in the money by holding it up to light)
It is traveling a very narrow way- but He is leading me away from the world and the further I questioned the world (even the religious part of the world) with His Word, the more I saw the world as clever counterfeits. Designed to deceive. Which is exactly what Satan does.
Not sure people would see Islam,Judaism and Christianity as three card monte with Satan dealing but that is how things are shaking out as I see it. With new eyes that only He can give. We can see Satan’s Kingdom divided against itself and it is due to fall..
HalleluYah!
ויקראH7121 אלהיםH430 לאורH216 יוםH3117 ולחשׁךH2822 קראH7121 לילהH3915 ויהיH1961 ערבH6153 ויהיH1961 בקרH1242 יוםH3117 אחד׃H259 (Gen 1:5 Hebrew Old Testament; the H numbers are those assigned by Strong in the Hebrew-English dictionary of his concordance; Each Hebrew word is spelled correctly from right to left, but the word placement has been made left to right by the software--my apology)
"And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day" (Gen 1:5 AV).
Two things it is very clear that you do not seem to understand, and they are:
(1) Today, The God speaks to humans by His Written Word, progressively revealed through the ages; written down by His agents to whom He revealed Himself in various ways; being completed by Jesus' apostle the beloved John; and sealed for all time. God's Word has not changed, there is nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else. He has given no answer other than that appearing in the Holy Bible. His Words are Spiritual, and they are Absolute Eternal Life
(2) In this Word, it is written that the first diurnal cycle of one day, when one yom, time, mass, and space were created, there was no light, therefore, all creation was dark at the moment when everything (including time) was created out of nothing. Then The God spoke light--not merely radiation visible to a human eye, but the complete electromagnetic spectrum--into existence.
Though it is possible to explain the existence of the diurnal cycle prior to the appearance of any heavenly bodies in the created heaven, the spiritual man by faith accepts that darkness to light equates to the sequence darkness first, relating to the Earth is defined as evening, and the appearance of light is defined as morning, and the sum of passed time until the darkness of the evening appears a one full day, one yom. When darkness again appeared, Day Two had begun.
This is The God's stated plan for the sequence of one diurnal cycle, which from the point of inauguration has successively begun with darkness.
Now, speaking of the claim you made of asking Him, The God, The uniplural Elohim, when the day begins--if you got back an answer which conflicts with the Word of God as certified by its Creator, Savior, and Preserver Jesus The Anointed One, it was not He who gave you that false answer. If it came from somewhere outside your imagination, then it came from the god of this world.
I hope this is now quite clear to you. The point of origin is not something derived from the created and changeable heavenly bodies and their perambulations, but with the unchangeable, utterly truthful and reliable God of Creation Who has irrevocably fixed it At The Beginning.
Respectfully but with clear negative response--which is why I asked what I did as to your frame of reference.
My friend, this only happened because in what our schema identifies as 33AD, the Passover Holy Day, a Sabbath, coincided with the regular weekly Sabbath, so it was a double Sabbath. The first day of the week is alwaysreckoned from the unchangeable regular weekly Sabbath. The first day of the week is not reckoned from a changeable Holy Day that is fixed by the day of the month. Don't forget that every so often an intercalary month is inserted so that the Jewish year keeps up with the solar year.
. . . it wasn’t 3 days in the Tomb (the template Ezekiel shows, He couldn’t have been in the Tomb 3 days) Could we see it as yet another parable? I do.
No, that is not right. This is not a parable. It is real. In that day, from the sixth until the nineth hour, He descended into Hell, and was burned as in a smelting furnace (Rev. 1:14-16, 2:18, 19:12), which signs He still bears: the signs of what He suffered for us at the hands of the righteous God. In that Hell it is night, so that is one night for that day that Jesus saw. Humans also saw it, for it became night on earth before it lightened again prior to sundown. At the ninth hour He gave up this Spirit, and then his soul went to Paradise.
Jesus' body was then placed in Joseph's tomb before sundown on 14 Nisan. So, that counts as one night in Hell and one day in the tomb.
His body remained there throughout the normal Sabbath, sundown to sundown. That counts as the second night and the second day.
Then Jesus appeared to the Nazarene women sometime after the beginning at sundown but just before sunrise if the first day of the week. That counts as in the tomb on the night of the third day.
So, in all, that is "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
What is a New Moon Day if it is not one of the 6 work days or the Sabbath?
Because He differentiates a New Moon Day from one of His 6 work days and Sabbath to Ezekiel in Ezekiel 46,in light of the gate being open or closed.
What does the New Moon represent but that first waste and void period before Light existed and He called it Yom? Before His 1st day. New moon day represents something..
I cant get a straight answer from religion on that question about a new moon day not being one of His work days or sabbath Like Ezekiel is instructed. Because they don’t have an answer other than to say it has been a continuous 7 day week since the beginning with no breaks and a new moon day is just another day.
But that can be proven to be false very simply by asking that simple question that I asked Him above on Ezekiel 46.
He has a break every 29 or 30 days and a rebirth of the commemoration of His Creation for four complete weeks - every month. Rome teaches a continuous 7 days- their days. His Word disproves that. Ezekiel 46 is a start point. There is only a Sabbath after 6 days of work. That is His Creative Work. Not two in 7 days.
The only time that would appear to occur in His Calendar is in the 7th month, when the weekly Sabbath (the 8th day of the month on His calendar) and the annual Sabbath (9th day in the evening).
but the 9th day on the Father’s calendar is simply the 1st day of the 2nd week on His calendar- a work day.
And the 10th day of the 7th month is an annual Sabbath because it commemorates the end of the 40 days after Yahshua’s birth,which His Word and His sky confirms, occurred on the 1st day of the 6th month (New Moon Day). when His Mother’s purification ended, 40 days, He was then dedicated in the temple on the 10th day of the 7th month- the Day of Atonement..
His calendar even gives us a natural preparation time (9th daylight) to prepare for that annual Sabbath.
That is the only time there are two Sabbaths in the same week. And technically it would be the 10th day and the 15th of that 2nd week of His calendar that the Sabbaths would be.
Again, the only time on His calendar’ it occurs and it is because it is now a commemoration and anniversary of Yahshua’s dedication in the temple at 40 days old..
Dig into Scripture and His signs and they do show He was born on the first day of the 6th month (New Moon Day- Revelation 12 sign I talked about), and the calendar template in Ezekiel (1 new moon +6 work + 1 sabbath) shows that the day He was to be circumcised, according to law, on the 8th day,is the weekly Sabbath- (1 new moon + 6 work + 1 Sabbath =8, not 7)
When one understands that from Scripture, they can now see why them being there camping on the 15th day of the 2nd month has calendar significance- (exodus 16)
Manna fell from heaven on the 16th-21st days in the Exodus (Ezekiel’s template holds) and the first 7th Day Sabbath in the wilderness occurred on the 22nd Day of His 2nd month. (Count it yourself)
He never changes.. And people who have no use for the holiness or significance of a New Moon Day, and why it isn’t one of His 6 Work Days or the Sabbath,like He said to Ezekiel, Will never see the Word made flesh..
And they will continue to call today Wednesday or Woden’s Day and not His 5th Day (the 13th Day of His 5th Month)
It really all fits together but it takes coming out of Babylon to see it clear as day..
Every one of His months is a witness to His Creative and Redemptive Work.
They begin with the New Moon Day that speaks to the events before Light.
And then 4 equal 6 work days and the 7th Day Sabbath.
The 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th days of every one of His months are always His weekly 7th day Sabbaths..
That is why the Passover,14th Day of His Calendar month, is ALWAYS the 6th and final Work day of His 2nd week.and why the 16th day is AlWAYS the 1st Work Day of His 3rd Week. And why the sign of Jonah is a parable.
His pattern doesn’t change. He doesn’t use Rome. Neither should His people. His Kingdom won’t have Woden’s Day.
And when one digs deep into His calendar, His Son pops out.
Which is why I can say with assurance He was born on a New Moon Day, circumcised on the weekly Sabbath, dedicated in the temple on an annual Sabbath , baptized on a New Moon Day(His 30th Birthday), Laid His life down as the Lamb on Feast of Passover, the 6th and final work day-finishing His Work(14th Day), laid in the Tomb resting on the 7th day weekly and annual Sabbath on the 15th Day- Unleavened Bread, and was Raised the 3rd Day, the 1st Work Day of the week, 16thDay -Feast of First Fruits. And then gave us the gift of the Holy Spirit on the 29th Day of the 4th month,the 7th Day weekly and annual Sabbath called the Feast of Weeks.
All on New Moon Days, Sabbaths and Feasts. The Word made flesh.
If one believes that is not knowledge from Him, they are welcome to that opinion
I simply asked,sought and knocked and realized Rome lies..
And people may read all this and still not have it register because one needs eyes to see and ears to hear- and only He blesses us with them.
But again, today in the world is Woden’s Day, Julius caesar’s (July) 29th day of his month.
I call it the 13th Day of His 5th month- His 5th day of His Work Week. The day He created the creatures in the water and the birds in the Heavens..
Just a different way to see and commemorate the same ‘day’
That is why Islam, Judaism and Christianity are the three card monte game to me, with Satan dealing the cards.
In reply, how do you manage to harmonize the Apostle's counsel regarding venturing into areas no longer ordained by the Lord as being at all profitable to righteousness?
"And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off
the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: . . .
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday,
or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels,
intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment
ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though
living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
(Touch not; taste not; handle not;
Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting
of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh" (Col. 10-11,17-23 AV; my emphasis on "new moon").
There are points in your discussion that cannot be affirmed. For one, the birth of Jesus can be fixed to the winter of 5 BC, and His death to the spring of 33 AD, which makes him 36 solar years plus some months old when crucified. He most certainly would not have been only 30 years old at the beginning of His public ministry as Rabbi/Master.
However, though you have taken it in hand to define a plan of days, and sabbaths, and new moons, and holy days presumably conforming to the Mosaic Law, I do not believe you or I have any authorization from on high to do so. And for sure, there is no reqirement to do so:
"One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man
be fully persuaded in his own mind.
He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day,
to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God
thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men" (Rom. 14:5-6,12-18 AV).
What one sees here is an Apostolic warning of bringing things into the assembly that unnecessarily create divisions.
Personally, I will look over your plan and see if there are components that are convincing, but already there are some areas that are not. What I would commend to you is to obtain a copy of "The Gospels: A Precise Translation" from Happy Heralds, Inc., and review the Appedix titled "A Chronological Harmony Of The Gospels: The Life Of Christ." There is an invitation to do so on the home page of Happy Heralds, Inc.. Click on "Read Excerpts -- Request a Copy" for ordering.
While this nicely bound durable volume is not published without cost, it is freely given to you, with the stipulation that they would want you to read a page of the Gospels a day. It has the advantage of notes on the related Greek, as well as dates from the chronology on each page of the translated text. Let me encourage you to add this to your library.
With respect ---
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