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MESSAGE FOR THE MONTH OF RAMADAN
The Vatican ^ | 12 June 2015 | Jean-Louis Cardinal Tauran

Posted on 07/17/2015 7:38:22 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: humblegunner

Why such a big deal on the spelling?

If you do not want to be thought of as a “concern troll”, please do not make such a big deal in regards to spelling.

No accept as ordered, your gentle correction. Thank-you.


41 posted on 07/18/2015 11:15:32 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: delchiante

Tough to say Paul would have taught to disobey one of the 10 commandments? The Jews thought the same when he taught circumcision was no longer required, even though Genesis 17 states differently.
All this OT law was fulfilled in Christ.
We are now under the new covenant law of Christ. Namely to believe in the name of Jesus and to love one another.


42 posted on 07/18/2015 11:17:31 AM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Biggirl
No accept as ordered, your gentle correction.

Uhh.. what?

How made have sense concrete to made likely?

43 posted on 07/18/2015 11:18:38 AM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Here is the patience of the Saints.
Those that KEEP the Commandments of Yah AND faith in Yahshua. Revelation 14:12

If you love me,keep my Commandments John 14:15

Love Yah and your neighbor as yourself are the summary of the Ten Commandments written on the tables ‘ of the covenant’ written by His finger.
The first 4 are all about Love of Him and the last 6 are all about Love of one’s neighbor.

I said nothing about circumcision.. But a believer in the Messiah of Israel can know He was circumcised on one of those weekly Sabbaths people want to ignore.
It is a pretty awesome study.

Not to mention He laid in the tomb resting on the Sabbath, obeying the Command even in death.

Not only our Savior but our example to Love Him who created heaven, earth the sea and all that is in them. ( which is what His calendar does every cycle- a commemoration of His Creative and Redemptive Work- but Rome isn’t into that)

Look in Revelation 13 and see if you can find the Commandments that the satanic team will break and cause others to break- hint- it will be His first 4 that deal with worship and Love of Him.

The ten Commandments are now supposed to be in one’s heart.

And those who teach people they don’t have to obey them and don’t obey them themselves, will be called LEAST in the Kingdom..
That will be a mark of lawlessness. That is what Satan does- lawlessness.

Scripture says Yah’s people will have His law in their forehead and on their hands (Deuteronomy 6:8)

The scriptures gives us hints of where the 30fold least will be. And it won’t be in the Holy place (60 fold priests-Levites)or the most holy place (100 fold priests- priests of Zadok)

And today isn’t His Sabbath.. Neither is tomorrow..
That is Rome doing what Daniel said they would do (7:25)

And when one goes down the rabbit hole, that isn’t all they’ve done.

And people are expecting to be gone before all this happens in revelation and it is happening every day spiritually without them even knowing it..

Satan deceives the whole world today and everyday. He isn’t waiting. And Rome and Christianity are not immune. In fact,just the opposite.


44 posted on 07/18/2015 11:44:58 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Hebrews says the old covenant was done away with, replaced by a new superior one in the blood of Christ. We rest in that covenant.


45 posted on 07/18/2015 12:21:56 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

And that Mosaic law has been fulfilled. But His Ten commandments- His moral law, is eternal..you try erasing them from that stone He wrote with His finger if you want.
Those are what are written on the heart of the converted. That is the new covenant. Not on stone but now on the heats of His peple

We have been given one sacrifice that atones for all our breaking of those Ten eternal laws.. You want to continue breaking them now knowing what it took? That’s up to you.

Scripture hints that the tables of stone came from the blue stone of His throne.
His Throne is eternal and described as saphire Blue according to scripture.
Which is a color(Blue) the priests And the people wore to remind them of His Commandmends.

Which is why the harlot of Revelation has NO BLUE when John described her clothing.

A blue-less Commandments-less harlot that looks like a priest but misses the one color represented by His Saphire Blue Throne and the Commandments written by His Finger from that blue stone of His eternal Throne.

None of this is a shock as scripture tells us what them Enemy does and will do. Satan hates those commands. He wants worship. And Satan has created religions that give him worship. And vessels like Rome and her daughters are feeding the beast.

That harlot will lead many to hear ‘I never knew you, get away from me, you who practice lawlessness- Mathew 7:23

People are welcome to ignore much of scripture and His eternal Commandments but they better be prepared for taking that view.

Resting in His Finished Work is not license to lawlessness. I think it is to the point people don’t know what sin is anymore.

Like in judges. Everybody did what was right in their own eyes.
And that is why the Pope is sending greetings to muslims on their Feasts.

Praise Yah I have come out of religion to see just what Babylon really is and how much one really has to overcome..


46 posted on 07/18/2015 1:47:20 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Is circumcision described in Genesis 17:13 an eternal covenant, meaning it must be obeyed today to do the will of God?
If you had a son, must you circumcise him on the 8th day?


47 posted on 07/18/2015 2:02:02 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

No.
But the Messiah was circumcised on the 8th day. And because He was born on a New Moon Day (the 1st day of His 6th month- when the sun clothed the woman and the moon was under her feet- Rev 12) , He was circumcised on the weekly Sabbath. (according to the calendar Ezekiel was given- 46)

1 new moon day - 1st day
6 work days - days 2-7
1 Weekly Sabbath- day 8 of month

Rome can’t teach that and Judaism can’t either.

The Word made flesh. It doesn’t end there. He was dedicated in the temple after 40 days of His Mother’s purification.

40 days after the 1st day of His 6th month is the 10th day of His 7th month- Day of Atonement

40 days old and He has fulfilled a New Moon, weekly Sabbath and Annual Sabbath..

Pretty awesome when people understand what the 8th day represented to the King of Creation and Redemption. And one understands that when one sees what the 1st day of each month represents.

The next major life event occurred in scripture would be His baptism..
That is shadowed with another 40 days of purification and being tempted by Satan.

When one understands He was born on a New Moon Day(appointed day taught to Israel), circumcised on a weekly Sabbath (appointed day taught to Israel), dedicated in the temple on an annual Sabbath (appointed day taught to Israel)- can a believer have an idea that His baptism would have something to do with an appointed day?
Without the 40 days immediately after, no. But when we understand He had already had a time of 40 days that followed His birth, we can make a good guess He was baptized exactly on His 30th birthday, the 1st day (New Moon Day of His 6th month)

We already know the Lamb laid His life down on Feast of Passover(14th day- appointed day taught to Israel), rested in the tomb on the weekly and Annual Sabbath of Feast of Unleavened Bread (15th day- appointed day taught to Israel, and was raised on the Feast of First Fruits (16th day,an appointed day taught to Israel)

New Moons, Sabbaths and Feasts. Word made flesh.. Could Christianity or Judaism preach or teach this?

They couldn’t partly because they don’t understand why little boys were to be circumcised on the ‘8th day’ and what that 8th day means to the Father and the Son.

It is on our Father’s calendar, because New Moon days are not one of the 6 work days or the Sabbath (see Ezekiel 46), the work week begins on the 2nd day of the month.
(Ezekiel shows a count to 8 not 7 like Rome does)

That little new moon is why the scripture says 15th day and not 355th day. That cycle of 7 gets broken every new month and with study one can understand why His Feasts that begin on the 15th day started with a Sabbath (because the 14th day is always the 6th and final work day when the new moon day is set accurately)

The work of Creation ended on the 6th Work Day.

So did the work of Redemption.

1 new moon+6 work + 1rest=8
+6 work(day9-14) + 1rest= 15
+6 work(day16-21)+ 1rest=22
+6 work(day23-28)+ 1rest=29

The Son finished His work on the 6th and final work day of the Father’s 2nd week..

The Holy Spirit has been working in the Father’s 3rd week. That work will also end on the 6th work day.
That work will cease on the 21st day, leading to the 22nd Sabbath (8th day)

Want some deep stuff if i havent confused you completely?
Read Genesis and an interesting mystery may be seen in Creation- some translations say Work was finished on the ‘7th’ Day.

When following Ezekiel’s template the 7th day of any month is really the 6th and final work day of a week.
So work could be finished on the 7th day of the month and the Sabbath observes the next day, which is the 7th day of the week. A little deep but there are still mysteries to Creation.

None of this can be seen with Rome’s calendar. They have led the world to say there has not been a break in the continous 7 day cycle and scripture refutes it itself.

And it is why people can’t see Rome’s Jesus in anything Jews were commanded to so..And why Rome has been able to pass their Holy days as His..
That isn’t an accident..


48 posted on 07/18/2015 3:52:53 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Where do you see that Jesus was born on a new moon day?


49 posted on 07/18/2015 4:53:14 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

The sun clothing the woman and the moon under her feet is an actual event in the sky (revelation 12). Last year it occurred on September 26. It will not be on that date this year as it isn’t determined by Rome’s calendar.

It represents the end of a new moon day (not the beginning as the new moon sighted the previous evening wouldn’t be located at the ‘woman’ in the heavens- that woman is part of the mazzaroth (constellations) spoken of in Job.

if not careful, people ascribe satanic meanings to His sun, moon, stars and planets. But His Word says He gives those to us for signs and moeds and days and years. He does speak to us through them..that is why people knew when the Messiah was born- they were looking in the heavens for signs.

If you have a calendar from 2014, you will notice it is close to Talmudists rosh hashanah..
it is because they rely on Rome for their calendar, they miss the real day because they have to calculate their holy days so they don’t conflict with their Pope appointed sabbath of saturnsday.

A little further study and that sign has ‘moved’. When I say moved,the earth wobbles and causes what science calls the procession of the equinox

The sun travels through that Mazzaroth as the earth is wobbling. Those stars will move position in our sky.
Thousands of years ago, that sign would have been a summer sign. Historians record this.

This study is one that confirms His Word and that He wrote His plan in the sky before He ever had it written on parchment..and Satan counterfeits it with astrology.

There was a time when Israel was observing their Passover in their 1st month, the sun was above them traveling through what English call ‘the Ram/adult lamb’.
It was the sign of the Mazzaroth that the spring equinox occurred.
When that is happening in their 1st month, the 7th Feasts were observed when the sun was traveling through what English call a Scale(it looks like a balance in the sky)- The Woman’ would be the 6th month when this occurs.

Those two signs(ram/Lamb at Passover and scales/balance at ‘Atonement’) would seem rather prophetic given the old testament scriptures.

Fast forward a couple thousand years and today, Israel observes its Passover when the sun is traveling through what English call Two Fish (Pisces for the astrologers)
Today, that makes the fall Feasts occur while the sun is traveling through the ‘Woman’ (it has moved from 6th month to 7th month)

Two fish at Passover ( I will make you fishers of men) and the Woman (bride/church) at the time Israel observes its Feasts today?

What a prophetic witness of Messiah and the New Testament and the church age that people don’t know is happening above their heads!

This isn’t all. There will be a time with some small wobbles of the earth or a big one, where Israel will be observing its Passover when the sun is traveling through what the English call the ‘Water Bearer’ (Aquarius for satanic astrology).
And when that happens, the fall Feasts will no longer be observed under the sign of the woman. The 7th month feasts will be while the Lion is overhead.

What do prophets say?
I will pour out my spirit on all flesh..

And what do we await?
The return of the ‘Lion’ of Judah.

All set to the timing of His Feasts..the entire scriptures set in His sky as ‘Signs’..

Wise men weren’t any smarter. They just knew where and when to look!


50 posted on 07/19/2015 6:41:11 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

How appropriate today’s epistle reading from Paul to the Ephesians where he says “...by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and ordinances that he might create in himself one new man in place of two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby bringing hostility to an end” Ephesians 2:14-16.

Some are so enamored by the types and shadows of the OT pointing to Christ, that they miss the message of Christ completely. That is a shame.


51 posted on 07/19/2015 6:53:32 AM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

The mosaic law and ordinances yes.
You have a hangup with His top 10. So does Satan.. Paul didn’t. But you keep thinking that is what he is saying. I have lots of places where it says exactly the opposite of what you think Paul is talking about there. The Lamb has reconciled us. But not to keep on sinning so grace abounds.

How appropriate today I have been set free to Love Him and follow Him exclusively!

And free from the counterfeit system that tells me today is holy when I know it is His 2nd work day.
And thank Him for what He made on His 2nd day- the firmament that separates the waters from the waters that He called heaven..

How grateful we can be for His Creative and Redemptive Work and worship Him who made heaven,the earth the see and all that is in them.

Or we can call it July 19th after julius ceaser and sun worshippers favorite day,Sunsday and worship Rome’s Jesus.

Some people have been marked and don’t know it. A real shame.


52 posted on 07/19/2015 7:06:05 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

I don’t have a hangup about the top 10, Christians are under the law of Christ, not the law of Moses.

John explains this very well and teaches us what “commandments” we are to follow in 1 John 3:19-24. Here’s a preview, the 7th day Sabbath is not mentioned.


53 posted on 07/19/2015 7:24:26 AM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

He changes not. You feel free to follow parts of the ten commandments and teach others to do the same

If they get into the Kingdom they will be called Least according to Yahshua/Joshua..

Mathew 5:19 whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

What a blessing to know what 30fold/60fold/100fold means in relation to His Kingdom and His Commandments which is His Kingdom’s laws.

HalleluYah!

Rome doesn’t think bother with those laws either..that is why they would agree with you.

For those who have eyes to see and ears to hear..


54 posted on 07/19/2015 7:32:32 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

” you feel free to follow parts of the 10 commandments......”


What I feel free to do is to believe in the name of Jesus, to love others and to rest in Christ by keeping every day holy. This is only available to those in Christ.


55 posted on 07/19/2015 8:16:21 AM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

What is truly amazing is I met Him as the Roman Jesus and He didn’t let me stay there..

Just like He meets us as sinners.. And He doesn’t let us stay there..and sin is simply the transgression of His law according to scripture. And we have an advocate praise Yah!

It is why Satan breaks the first four Commandments and causes the world to do the same in Revelation 13. It prophetically happens every day- not some future time when the church is ‘gone’ as the church teaches. ‘antichrist’ is working today and boy what a shock to see if one understasnds they are feeding the beast.

And why my life and faith has zero to do with Rome and their Jesus thanks to Him.
Religious people wouldn’t understand that.

All because He didn’t allow me to stay grounded in deductive reading of scripture and Rome’s lies when totality of scripture is the way to go.

Even scripture translators today can explain the name Jesus to be ‘tradition of men’ and if that sacred name isnt sacred,Roman Christianity crumbles and falls with the other counterfeits -thanks to two scripture witnesses, acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8-
Roman Christianity is willing to mess with the Greco Roman Latin name Jesus.

Babylon is far bigger than the Roman Catholic Church. If one realizes that like He let me realize that, Satan’s plan and tactics becomes very clear.

And the Kingdom tha Yahshua/Joshua preached becomes very exclusive..

It wasnt until I realized my faith was in Rome’s lies, (as a protestant, that was humbling)did I see just how much His Mercy and Grace is needed. And the only thing to do, was repent.
And it has been a blessing to see Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 unfold on before anybody flies away as sheep teach..
Everything religion spouts today starts with Rome..

That is why the battles get heated on the forum because people are debating Jesus and fighting over him.

Amazing to see Rome’s jesus as ‘antichrist’. That would not had made sense a couple years ago to me.

That doesn’t happen without coming out of babylon first.. And worshipping the Father in Spirit AND truth.

You and I start with two different premises and you won’t see what He has showed me.
Rome has zero to do with my work and worship, not even their sacred name.
Nor their holy days or calendar.
I have tested and proved all things on my own journey and they hold nothing but counterfeits.
That only happens when one holds it up (just like a phony $100 bill gets held to the light) at the risk of their own faith.

And we are saved by grace, through faith. I pray faith in a counterfeit still works as being redeemed because there are billions of souls at stake.
If not, lots of people will be wailing and gnashing teeth. I understand Paul and all scripture far better today than I did just a few short years ago.

And used to debate roman catholics over jesus but i sont anymore because their Jesus is theirs. They own him. They gave him his birthday, his circumcisuon, His death day, his resurrection day.
And Christians accept Rome’s standing, if not ownership of everything jesus

Praise Yah He didn’t let me stay there!

Maybe people who think they have rest have been lulled to sleep.


56 posted on 07/19/2015 9:28:11 AM PDT by delchiante
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