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Gay Marriage—Nothing New Under the Sun
Catholic World Report ^ | May 22, 2012 | Benjamin Wiker

Posted on 07/12/2015 10:36:21 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/12/2015 10:36:21 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Everything old is new again, ping!


2 posted on 07/12/2015 10:36:46 AM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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No, the examples given are not of “gay marriage”. They are making fun of men who play the bride. No question that pederasty and homosexual behavior were common in Rome and Greece, actual same-sex marriage was not done. Probably not even considered except in jest.


3 posted on 07/12/2015 10:44:34 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: NYer

It is articles like this that make me celebrate my ex-Catholicism and turning directly to the Word of God.


4 posted on 07/12/2015 10:47:32 AM PDT by trubolotta
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How so?


5 posted on 07/12/2015 10:53:04 AM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: trubolotta
It is articles like this that make me celebrate my ex-Catholicism

Why? As the article states, it was the early Catholic Church that protected and promoted natural, monogamous marriage in the corrupt Roman Empire.

6 posted on 07/12/2015 10:53:13 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SuzyQue
Yeah. I don't buy it. Unless what's been passed down from Greek and Rome has been censored to exclude queerness. Which is possible. But when you read Homer, Plato, Virgil, and Aristotle any sexual relationship is hetero.
7 posted on 07/12/2015 11:01:47 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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Gay Homosexual Marriage—Nothing New Under the Sun

Don't let the left define the conversation. Call it what it is. Homosexual if you're being polite, Sodomite if you're not.

8 posted on 07/12/2015 11:02:32 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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I haven’t made it all the way through City of God, but so far Sodomy has not been a major factor cited by Augustine as cause of Rome’s decline.


9 posted on 07/12/2015 11:03:26 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: NYer

So Nero was homosexual? No wonder why he hated Christians so much.


10 posted on 07/12/2015 11:07:06 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: NYer
Let me alter the title slightly and with a little imagination, perhaps you will understand my problem with the article:

Abortion - Nothing New Under the Sun

11 posted on 07/12/2015 11:10:21 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: SuzyQue

Gay marriage had its detractors, but it was done. Certainly homosexual sex was a popular pursuit by the elite of the day.


12 posted on 07/12/2015 11:17:58 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: NYer

The Catholic church and, notably, its current Pope, have been remarkably quiet on the issue of homosexual “marriage” the last couple of years.


13 posted on 07/12/2015 11:23:04 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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Well, child sacrifices, mass murders, evil tyrannies are not new either. That does not mean we should not fight against them with all our might.


14 posted on 07/12/2015 11:34:38 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: demshateGod
I haven’t made it all the way through City of God, but so far Sodomy has not been a major factor cited by Augustine as cause of Rome’s decline.

The great Bishop of Hippo writes: “Sins against nature, therefore, like the sin of Sodom, are abominable and deserve punishment whenever and wherever they are committed. If all nations committed them, all alike would be held guilty of the same charge in God’s law, for our Maker did not prescribe that we should use each other in this way. In fact, the relationship that we ought to have with God is itself violated when our nature, of which He is Author, is desecrated by perverted lust.”

Further on he reiterates: “Your punishments are for sins which men commit against themselves, because, although they sin against You, they do wrong in their own souls and their malice is self-betrayed. They corrupt and pervert their own nature, which You made and for which You shaped the rules, either by making wrong use of the things which You allow, or by becoming inflamed with passion to make unnatural use of things which You do not allow” (Rom. 1:26). (St. Augustine, Confessions, Book III, chap. 8)

15 posted on 07/12/2015 11:34:42 AM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: trubolotta

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3310917/posts?page=15#15


16 posted on 07/12/2015 11:39:55 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Your link is taking me to where I am. Am I missing something?


17 posted on 07/12/2015 11:42:20 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Arm_Bears
What has changed that something new needs to be said? The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith said it all in 2003. Nothing has changed since then, except that error and apostasy has become more widespread.

"There are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God's plan for marriage and family. Marriage is holy, while homosexual acts go against the natural moral law. Homosexual acts “close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved”."

Seems pretty cut-and-dried to me.

18 posted on 07/12/2015 11:42:28 AM PDT by Campion
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To: trubolotta
It is articles like this that make me celebrate my ex-Catholicism and turning directly to the Word of God.

Let me help you along with the last part of your comment: Romans 1:26-28

19 posted on 07/12/2015 11:43:05 AM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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Quite honestly, I don’t understand your point. Romans 1:26-28 is completely adequate by itself without someone trying to tell me that this behavior really isn’t new so I should ... what?


20 posted on 07/12/2015 11:47:25 AM PDT by trubolotta
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