Posted on 07/07/2015 3:02:34 PM PDT by RnMomof7
For those who are circumcised do not even keep the Law themselves, but they desire to have you circumcised so that they may boast in your flesh. But may it never be that I would boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. - Galatians 6:13, 14
Ideas have consequences. So does doctrine. That there are true Christians who trust the blood of Jesus Christ alone to make their garments white who worship in the Roman Catholic church is no less extraordinary for being true. They are the exception that proves the rule. They go against the grain of their entire doctrinal system and many Anglicans and Protestants across the centuries put their life at risk to recover Biblical doctrine, calling to those in the Roman bondage to repent and believe. Those who imply that Luther and Calvin and Knox were fools for doing so are ignorant of what Scripture and Rome teach, or they are opposed to the very idea that ideas have consequences and that it is the job of the Church to make disciples of all men, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and teaching them to obey everything He commands.
But really, we do run into the most basic failures of logic in our blind world. Systems of doctrine which are heretical (of which Rome is our primary example, here) are generally held by those who align themselves with the churches who claim that system of doctrine. What a world we live in that we must say such an inane thing!
Which is to say, priests sacrifice Christ over and over again...
This is the primary duty of their ordination. They are priests, after all—not pastors—and they preside over the sacrifice of the Mass. This is contrary to the "once and done" teaching of Hebrews (e.g. Hebrews 7:27; 9:12, 28; 10:10).
Does it matter?
Luther and Calvin and Knox thought it does. And you? Or are generalizations so distasteful to you that you will never allow that any system of doctrine can be denounced as heretical, nor that any person who is a member of the communion holding to that system of doctrine can be expected to hold to that heresy and be in spiritual jeopardy because of their membership in that heretical communion?
Ideas have consequences. Doctrine has consequences. Rome has anathematized my faith and doctrine for over half a millenium, now, and they're right to do so if their dogma is what Scripture declares. So I reciprocate and anathematize their system of doctrine (as they have mine) because I know their system of doctrine is a fulsome denial of Romans and Galatians, for starters. But I don't stop there: I go on to the work of warning Roman Catholics to leave the dead to bury their dead, to turn away from the dead and enter Christ's true church where the doctrine of salvation has not been (and is not) corrupted by the systematic monetization of justification-not-by-faith-alone which is the heart of their error and which, tragically, their purported "ecumenical council" of Trent deposited permanently at the center of their church.
Do we really care for souls? Do we really love anyone? Do we really see deceptions and grieve over them, or are we simply committed to the laissez-faire spirituality Rodney King summarized best when he spoke for a decadent age, asking "Can't we all get along?"
The Apostle Paul writes the book of Galatians defending the doctrine of justification by faith alone and we respond, how? "Oh, Paul, there you go again getting on your high horse! Don't you know how many sincere and well-meaning Judaizers there are? And how can you know men's hearts? How harsh you are, Paul, telling them that, while they're at it, you wish they'd just go ahead and cut it all off. Grow up, Paul; are you a misanthrope? Take a chill pill, dude! I mean, really!"
Now you might resent my putting it this way, but in every discussion with weak and sentimental moderns we find that the exception to the rule is all that matters—never the rule.
Roman Catholicism is a heresy and its main heretical dogma is most clearly seen in the Tridentine documents which, according to church law, can never—may never—be repealed. Which is to say the magisterium is stuck down a mine shaft they can never escape without denying one more false doctrine which is the authority of church tradition.
And their false doctrine really does lead most of the souls under the care of those defending and teaching and preaching and practicing that false doctrine to Hell.
If all we ever feel compelled to say is that there are some people who are real Christians in the Roman Catholic Church and some parish priests who don't sodomize little boys, what have we said that anyone needs to hear?
Nothing—nothing at all. Everyone knows it and no one will argue with it.
Which really is why saying it is so very popular.
But what does a true Christian shepherd say to Rome and her subjects?
A true Christian shepherd says to Rome and her shepherds what the Apostle Paul says in Galatians: if you continue to trust your sacraments and good works to save you, there is no hope for you of eternal life.
We need to keep in mind the statement that we moderns are given over to the morbid habit of sacrificing the normal on the altar of the abnormal. Rome is blind masters leading their blind subjects further into their blindness. That is the norm with Rome and unkindness is not saying it, but failing to say it.
The abnormal is Roman priests and parishioners who reject Rome's heresies and truly believe in the work of Christ alone for their salvation; souls who trust in Jesus Christ and, therefore, love God and their neighbor. Faith working through love. But such souls are the exception to the rule and we must not focus on these abnormalities so we may not have to blow the trumpet warning of the normalities of the false doctrine Rome is steeped in to her neck.
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Mom is back and FR has her! In Mad Magazine’s words: bleeech!
AMEN!
Increasingly we see evil gaining ground in this country and the world. We can't stand around and "water down The Gospel" so people won't be offended.
“All the evils of the world are due to lukewarm Catholics”.
Pope Pius V
Oh, look, the "liars for Jesus" are out again.
You’re funny, Biggirl!
In an awful world, as usual, on FR, it’s the Catholics who are the source of all troubles. We don’t like abortion, we don’t like euthanasia, we’re getting murdered all over Africa and the mid-east, but hey? We have wafers and statues. That’s all that matters.
I can assure you that your mocking and ridicule will not turn my Sister away from doing the family business. I’m her twin brother, and I carry a sword with me. Our family business is giving away oil for lamps. Everybody has a lamp. The oil has been paid for in full and is the most precious oil possible. And it can be your in a moment of repentance and acknowledgement to our Father whose business were are about. Once you get this oil it never runs out. No one can take it from you and you can’t even spill it out or use it up!
You don’t believe Catholic are saved; they will go to hell.
Catholics don’t believe you are saved; you will go to hell.
Thank goodness, God doesn’t listen to either of you - He decides.
I can assure you that your mocking and ridicule will not turn my Sister away from doing the family business. I’m her twin brother, and I carry a sword with me. Our family business is giving away oil for lamps. Everybody has a lamp. The oil has been paid for in full and is the most precious oil possible. And it can be your in a moment of repentance and acknowledgement to our Father whose business we are about. Once you get this oil it never runs out. No one can take it from you and you can’t even spill it out or use it up!
You might want to read THE ESSAY before making unfounded assertions. You might even find you are one of the pointed to exceptions to the rule. But unless you open spiritual eyes and look you will not know.
What you’re saying is NOT true.
We do not assume that Protestants are going to hell just because they are Protestants. Sadly, some of them here assume we are going to hell since we are Catholics and won’t even accord us the status of being Christians.
Christ did say “”Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;” (Revelation 18:4). That would indicate there are some but they had better get out or they will suffer.
Many of you aren’t. But God does the sorting, not you or me.
“You might want to read THE ESSAY before making unfounded assertions.”
My assertion isn’t unfounded:
The author of this posted article said, “And their false doctrine really does lead most of the souls under the care of those defending and teaching and preaching and practicing that false doctrine to Hell.”
Two weeks ago, in a Catholic Church at a Bible study, the presenter said to me in a private session, anyone who isn’t in the Catholic church goes to hell. This man goes around the Catholic area giving instruction to members of these Catholic churches - he is welcomed by Catholic pastors.
Well, the friend from college who led me to Christ more than forty years ago died recently. He had fallen into Mormonism years ago. God let me know that my friend would be Raptured soon, to not fret over him. You see, no man, not even he, could take him from The Father’s hand. When born from above, the Holy Spirit seal is placed upon that one and it is irrevocable and unbreakable.
“That there are true Christians who trust the blood of Jesus Christ alone to make their garments white who worship in the Roman Catholic church is no less extraordinary for being true. They are the exception that proves the rule.”
It really doesn’t prove the rule. The inconvenient fact is that most people get their brand of Christianity from their family, their culture, or by accident of birth. Most love Jesus and accept hat he died for them.
This includes most Catholics I know. I am not a Catholic and am actually a Baptist. But although I do not believe many Catholic doctrines, I fully accept that they are as likely to be saved or not, as are the members of any other Christian church.
And as an aside, this legalistic crap is anti-Christian, and only serves the enemy. That is my fatwa.
““All the evils of the world are due to lukewarm Catholics”.—Pope Pius V
Instead of a hoped for surrender we get doubling down! I think the author of the piece made it clear that a totally onboard Catholic is in a WORSE state that the (thankfully, because they can still hear rebuke) lukewarm.
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