Feel free to write yourself a reparation check.
Posted on 05/08/2015 3:01:54 AM PDT by rwa265
False. Mother of God is a horrible translation of Theotokos. Theotokos means "God-Bearer". Theotokos is important because of what is says about Jesus.
"Mother of God" is important because of what it says about Mary. "Mother of God" is wrong.
If you read one of the creeds, it says that Mary is the Theotokos, with respect to the manhood. Mary bore the manhood of Jesus, but she did not bear the godhood. Jesus was god from conception, but his godhood was not contained in Mary.
So, you can say that Mary is the Mother of Jesus' manhood, but you can not say that Mary is the Mother of Jesus' godhood.
That’s very funny.
I’m joining up!
Ooops... I just used my napkin.
Okay— Now I have a NEW religion — It’s the same as the old one, only different.
Not slander ... truth. There are many that are quite shocked when they hear that phrase.
On the early days of the church, there were heretics that did not buy into the Jesus = God thing. The title wa given to Mary to elevate Jesus (not Mary) in response to the heretics.
God placed His own human incarnation (Jesus) in Mary’s womb. Why do Catholics try to paint Mary as greater than God?
NCCs [non-Catholic-Christians], by and large, in my opinion, fear Mary.
When “progressives” use Alinsky tactics they often falsly “assign” beliefs and opinions to their enemies. I see Catholics do this as well.
We have The God. We don’t need a goddess.
And furter, if you read the law he was quoting, you will find he was saying that he, himself, was a man and would: die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
But I'm only a man and accept that I don't know everything.
So, you can say that Mary is the Mother of Jesus’ manhood, but you can not say that Mary is the Mother of Jesus’ godhood.
This statement does not recognize the unity of the two natures of Jesus in the person of Jesus.
I have asked several times how it can be said that Mary is not the mother of God. Having just read John Calvin’s views on Mary, I think I found the answer.
Calvin said that calling Mary the “mother of God” is unsuitable because it can only serve to confirm the ignorant in their superstitions. He said that Elisabeth calling Mary “the mother of my Lord” denotes a unity of person in the two natures of Christ, but that the term “Lord” only belongs to Jesus as the Son of God manifested in the flesh. He further states that Mary was the mother of the Lord only while he was on earth, and the mother-son relationship between Jesus and Mary ceased at Jesus’ death.
Calvin had much more to say about Mary, but I believe the above captures the essence of his thoughts on Mary as the mother of the Lord, and to me it is a good explanation of how it can be said that Mary is not the mother of God.
Calvin describes it in a way that is in accord with the unity of person in the two natures of Jesus and acknowledges that Mary was the mother of the Lord, although in a very limited way.
As one who attends a fundamental Baptist church, I can assure you that the fears and reactions attributed to us in this article aren’t entirely true. We don’t sit around talking about what is wrong with your religion and we never wring our hands in fear. The only ones who sometimes bring it up is former Catholics in our church.
According to them, the “problem” we have with the Catholic view of Mary is that she was without sin and that she can hear and answer prayers to her. She bore Christ our Savior, but that didn’t impart his non-human attributes to her. She was a servant of the Lord, obedient and faithful.
Some have run with the “mother of God” theme and generated the ideas that Mary is co-mediatrix, co-rendemtrix, sinless, queen of heaven, and even queen of the universe, elevating her well beyond the humble servant that she is.
Which phrase - "mother of God" or "fundamentalist"?
The term [Fundamentalism] was born when conservative Protestants in early-20th-century America committed themselves to defend the five "fundamentals" of their faith -- the inerrancy of the Bible, virgin birth and deity of Jesus, doctrine of atonement, bodily resurrection of Jesus, and His imminent return.
-- from the thread The many forms of fundamentalism
Fundamentalist: A term created during the turn-of-the-20th-century Protestant church splits to define those who held to the “fundamentals” of Christianity—the inerrancy of the Bible, the virgin birth of Jesus and his literal resurrection from the dead. The term is now considered pejorative. (Wheaton College philosophy professor Alvin Plantinga famously observed, “The full meaning of the term…can be given by something like ‘stupid sumbitch whose theological opinions are considerably to the right of mine.’”)
-- from the thread New Kids In The Flock
Good post; it confirms my view that genuine Christian Fundamentalists are not ashamed of their affiliation and testify that they attend Fundamental Baptist assemblies rather than hiding their actual attendance affiliations. The second point you affirm is that it is primarily Catholics who abandoned the Catholic Church who are on an antiCatholic crusade, while genuine Fundamentalist (Baptist usually follows) Christians are busy trying to focus on serving the LORD Jesus Christ through their assemblies, rather than themselves in their own particular and personal crusades.
silly me....and here I was reading 1 John thinking he had taken care of that....and with no mention of Mary whatsoever. which is telling as we know Jesus entrusted Mary to John's care.
if only the rcc would stay with the text and explain them they wouldn't need to do this false teaching on mary which is about as destructive as the very false teachings they say they're against.
False Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord. Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates. Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Leviticus, Catholic chapter nineteen , Protestant verse eighteen,
Deuteronomy. Catholic chapter six, Protestant verses four to nine,
Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty two , Protestant verses thirty six to forty ,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
Feel free to write yourself a reparation check.
Translation: "Shut up and take your beatdown."
Quit whining.
Jesus was the only begotten son of God, God and his son are one in the spiritual sense because God is a spirit.
John 4
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The father and the son are one in spirit, meaning Gods spirit was in Jesus, it was not put there by Mary.
Mary was the mother of Jesus but God is spirit so she could not be the mother of God.
Just like nobody is offending Catholics by calling them mariolators. Enjoy the mackerel.
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