"Bravo!"
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Posted on 04/30/2015 8:47:37 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
"States could force Catholic priests to perform same-sex ‘marriages’ or lose legal status: Justice Scalia"
If the Supreme Court rules that same-sex “marriage” is a constitutional right, one justice has said that the government could force clergy of all denominations to perform gay “weddings” or lose the ability to officiate any state-sanctioned marriage.
On Tuesday, the U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Obergefell v. Hodges, the case that will decide whether the Constitution forbids states from upholding marriage as the union of one man and one woman. Among the exchanges, Justice Antonin Scalia repeatedly noted that if the High Court finds same-sex "marriage" is a constitutional right, then priests, ministers, rabbis, and imams will be required to perform such ceremonies – regardless of their religious beliefs – or face state penalties.
Justice Scalia repeatedly suggested that once a constitutional right to marry by same-sex couples was enshrined by the court, a member of the clergy could not be given civil marriage powers by the state unless he agreed to perform any and all marriages that the nation legally recognizes.
"Every state allows ministers to marry people, and their marriages are effective under state law,” Scalia said. “That will not be the case if, indeed, we hold, as a constitutional matter, that the state must marry two men."
As it stands, most clergy serve a dual role, celebrating church nuptials but also signing legal documents allowing the state to legally recognize that marriage. But if they refuse to conduct same-sex rituals, government officials may strip clergy of their state legal standing, rendering their marriages legally invalid in the eyes of the state government.
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So much for the First Amendment.
To be a Christian is to be a martyr.
Americans have watched Christians get slaughtered in the Mid-East, Egypt and Africa. We have watched them go to jail in Vietnam and China. They are God’s children too - so what makes us special that we may not undergo such trials someday?
“...state sanctioned marriage.”
I think we’ve discovered the problem...
Can’t wait till they try to force some Islamic mosque to perform a gay marriage.
I guess the Priests would carry out the sacrament in a church and the happy couple would go (either before or after the sacrament) to some appropriately grim public office to sign legal papers.
Not ideal, but then living and working in a totalitarian Marxist state seldom is.
...separation of church and state only when it benefits the left?
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Do you really think this will happen?
I think the Catholic Church will go underground before anything like this is done.
Won't happen. Some animals are more equal than other.
That “... prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...” clause has been dead for a long time.
The gay agenda is a cover for criminalizing Christianity, not Islam,
so they’ll be “overlooked”.
“King Nebuchadnezzar made an image of gold, whose height was sixty cubits and its breadth six cubits. He set it up on the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.
Then King Nebuchadnezzar sent to gather the satraps, the prefects, and the governors, the counselors, the treasurers, the justices, the magistrates, and all the officials of the provinces to come to the dedication of the image that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up.
Then the satraps, the prefects, and the governors, the counselors, the treasurers, the justices, the magistrates, and all the officials of the provinces gathered for the dedication of the image that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up. And they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up.
And the herald proclaimed aloud, “You are commanded, O peoples, nations, and languages, that when you hear the sound of the horn, pipe, lyre, trigon, harp, bagpipe, and every kind of music, you are to fall down and worship the golden image that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up.
And whoever does not fall down and worship shall immediately be cast into a burning fiery furnace.””
Not according to the first amendment. If a law violates the first amendment, it is an unconstitutional law.
“Death of the 1st Amendment: Oregon Bakers Who Refused to Bake Homosexual Wedding Cake Found Guilty”
I don't expect this remedy will hold. Once homosexuality is declared by SCOTUS to be a protected category (in June, 2015), first the tax exempt status of all traditional religions will be stripped, and then there will be moves to criminalize all expressions of opposition to homosexual activity.
And I fully expect violence against church property and maybe clergy (starting with the Roman Catholic Church) this June coinciding with the SCOTUS decision (whichever way it goes) and the "Pride" parades.
Oh well, we should be rejoicing since it looks like Christians will have an opportunity to be persecuted for our faith!
Oh you silly Christians! Why won’t you burn a pinch of incense and say that Obama is Lord? That’s all we ask!
I am so sick of these people that are NOTHING but attention seeking trouble makers. They are fame whores and their only desire is publicity generated by the lame stream media. The truth is:
THESE SO CALLED GAY ADVOCATES DON’T EVEN CARE ABOUT GAY RIGHTS.
Think not? Consider this simple comparison.
I feel as strongly about the 2nd ammendment as they do about gay ‘rights’. Do I care when some organization or business comes out against the right of gun ownership? Yes I do - I AM THRILLED. Because now that they have identified themselves, it makes it easy for me to make sure they never get so much as one dime of my money. Do you think I would sue to try to make these people take my money?
That’s the way people that actually care about a cause react.
The numbskulls that are pushing to force themselves on organizations that don’t want them do not give a dam about their supposed ‘cause.’ All they want is an excuse to attack religion and to gain fame. They are beyond despicable and dishonest. And the people that fall for this nonsense are idiots.
At least they’re out of the closet now. So to speak.
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