Posted on 04/10/2015 6:19:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
(I'm going to walk --- which I need to do every day --- and say the Chaplet of Divine Mercy. Seems like I can only say that walking. You'll be in it!)
Yes! :o)
You have been sadly misinformed, and I will happily explain why.
First of all, there are 30,000 - 60,000 annulments granted every year in the US alone (I'm looking at the span of the last 10 years), and very few, if any of them, are Kennedy-rich. So your claim is false on the face of it.
Second, In his book Annulments and the Catholic Church, canon lawyer Edward Peters states, "In the U.S. most tribunals charge anywhere from $200 to $1,000 for adjudicating a standard nullity case These fees are typically payable over time, and there are means for having fees reduced or eliminated in cases of financial hardship (canon 1464) (p. 7-8).
Peters goes on to explain that the expenses paid out of this fee are the cost of retrieval and printing of documents, the expense of personally locating and interviewing the respondent and witnesses, meetings with canon lawyers from both sides, esp. if the annulment is contested.
On the other hand, if the attempted marriage was indisputably null from the documents alone (e.g. proof that one of the parties was already validly married to somebody else and so the attempted marriage was actually bigamy), the petitioner would have an expedited and much less expensive process.
'Documentary cases' are handled very rapidly and for a much smaller fee, $25 or less being common.
Compare that to the cost of a civil divorce!
Bishop Zubik of the Diocese of Pittsburgh has just this month announced that there will be no fees for annulments in his diocese. Can't get much cheaper than free.
Do you understand? I hope this was helpful.
“For 2,015 years the Catholic church has been doing just fine thank you”
But of course, this is simply your opinion and you’ve stated you are a member of that denomination. In regards to the actual problems, it appears you gloss over them to say it is doing just fine. No problem. I just realize you are stating a biased opinion.
“If I had a nickel for every time I heard or read that the Catholic Church is in trouble, Id have...a lot of nickels!”
I couldn’t have said it better. It has many, many troubles. Nickels, I’ll leave that to you to collect the big money.
“If I had a nickel for every time I heard or read that the Catholic Church is in trouble, Id have...a lot of nickels!”
I couldn’t have said it better. It has many, many troubles. Nickels, I’ll leave that to you to collect the big money.
Dear, dear Mrs. Don-o, thank-you, bless you. I have never had anyone include me into the Chaplet of Divine Mercy. I have just said today’s psalms and have included you in my prayers.
Please be careful when you walk and pray. Some times I will say the rosary when I drive, but I become too meditative and I am not there, fully paying attention to the road. I am glad you do not have that problem.
So, I say to and with you:
“Open to me the gates of justice;
I will enter them and give thanks to the LORD.
This is the gate of the LORD;
the just shall enter it.
I will give thanks to you, for you have answered me
and have been my savior.
I will give thanks to you, for you have answered me.
Alleluia, Alleluia
Praise be to God
God Bless you Mrs. and Mr. Don-o. And have a great walk with the Lord, Our Lady and Jesus Christ this beautiful spring day, Easter 2015. And have a deep and meaningful Mercy Sunday tomorrow.
For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
I have to be careful when I do my prayer-walking, because some of the sidewalks in my neighborhood have uneven pavement. I am still using a quad cane and am at moderate risk of falling. I try to remember to frequently scope out the next couple of yards ahead to make sure I don't tipsy-over on a patch of broken pavement.
I can imagine you driving: "Caution: Meditative State Ahead"! Please keep your mind on the road, my dearest dear!
I am sure everyone who sees you walking with your quad cane admires you and if they knew you were being prayerful, they would ask you for a blessing. Thank-you for being a vivid example of our beautiful faith. And watch those buckling sidewalks as you make your way stepping purposefully along the path of the most generous gift of all, mercy from Above.
Holy God, Holy Mighty One, Holy Immortal One, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Divorce. The original war on marriage.
“So... only Catholics like the Kennedys who can pay huge amounts of to the Church for an annulment can get remarried.
Sorta like selling indulgences.
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Does stupid hurt?
Both of these are factually untrue, in fact they are outrageous. Despite the uneven discipline or outright hypocrisies on the part of certain bishops, these are both violations --- rather than examples ---- of the holy doctrines of the Catholic Church.
Link to LifeSiteNews, March 21, 2015
Souls falling into mortal sin could never be the "least" of our problems, especially for the priests and bishops who are entrusted to be shepherds of souls.
If a person wishes to seek God, they are warmly invited to make a good Confession --- this is the Sacrament for them --- repenting of their sins, and intending not to commit them anymore, so that they may then receive Communion worthily with us, their fellow repentant sinners.
Sadly true.
“Souls falling into mortal sin could never be the “least” of our problems, especially for the priests and bishops who are entrusted to be shepherds of souls.”
More dangerous the priests, bishops and cardinals that are leading your denomination astray from the top down. Abused your children, protected the abusers, hide away gays in leadership, promote destructive doctrines and policies, etc.
Those who love and seek God are never the problem.
Nor did Christ condemn them. He did have quite a few words for leaders - whitewashed tombs with bones inside - that lead followers astray.
Whoopee. And Obama appears to be a “christian”.
Then why did the pope recently hug and encourage a tranny engaged to a member of her same sex.?
Why did the Pope call an adulteress in Argentina and advise her to sneak around and find another church to receive Holy Communion?
Do you know for a fact that there was no repentance and confession? Do you know for a fact that this perverse "engagement" is still on?"Why did the Pope call an adulteress in Argentina and advise her to sneak around and find another church to receive Holy Communion?"If you don't know for a fact, then you are speculating by recourse to the "Assumption of Bad Motives", e.g., "When in doubt, the Pope is wrong."
We know about this alleged incident because the woman's husband put it on Facebook. Then Pope Francis, through Lombardi, acknowledged that a phone conversation took place, but more than that he could not say, explaining it was not an official act in any sense, but private.Neither doctrine nor discipline are determined by private phone calls, or promulgated third hand on Facebook. He was, therefore, staving off any interpretation that had made a ruling or granted an absolution.
Even Religious News Service --- which is provably left-leaning and pro-dissent in its tendencies --- thought the story was dubious.
Latching onto poorly-documented or undocumented material of a damaging sort, and presuming the worst possible interpretation, is not something we should do to anybody, much less the Pope.
Non sequitur.
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