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How Reliable Is Roman Catholic History?<P> An Example in a Recent Edition of This Rock Magazine
Alpha & Omega ^ | 3/12/2015 | James White

Posted on 03/12/2015 8:11:50 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: CynicalBear
How Reliable Is Roman Catholic History?

Whomever Wins the wars; Writes the histories.

41 posted on 03/13/2015 5:20:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dartuser
>>The re-writing of history by the Catholic Church constitutes the bulk of their sacred tradition!<<

Plus the addition of some pagan rituals.

42 posted on 03/13/2015 5:22:09 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
The re-writing of history by the Catholic Church is an amazing thing to witness. I can’t imagine how intelligent people can fall for the ruse.




 


 
Eerily familiar...
 
 

Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.


 



16. Ministry Of Truth

.......

The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

 
 


43 posted on 03/13/2015 5:29:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Also, keep in mind that people can enjoy theology, baseball games, and cigars without contradiction.

Thanks for a chuckle to kick-start my day!

44 posted on 03/13/2015 5:31:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock; Campion
He provided a direct link to the Quotes. The same material is available on a CD or you could have scrolled down and actually read the information on that page.

Further you can read it at CCEL which is a protestant website (They also have a CD for sale). If you go to CCEL look up Irenaeus against Heresies. chapter 3

45 posted on 03/13/2015 9:02:48 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: verga; Campion; Petrosius

For whatever reason my page didn’t scroll down when I clicked on the link.

Anyway, Petrosious provided the entire text with link. As of yet I haven’t had time to read through the material.


46 posted on 03/13/2015 10:25:30 AM PDT by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: Gamecock
For whatever reason my page didn’t scroll down when I clicked on the link.

Mine has been acting Wonky for some stuff today as well. Maybe FR is being hacked again.

47 posted on 03/13/2015 10:34:15 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: verga

Wonky?


48 posted on 03/13/2015 11:30:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
It is acting like someone gave it some cheap scotch.

FR is taking forever to load.

Some of the Pics on the Friday silliness thread won't load at all.

I sent an e-mail top a co-worker and I walked to her office and I got there before the e-mail.

49 posted on 03/13/2015 1:17:08 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: verga
FR is taking forever to load.

I hear ya; but mine is like this on ALL programs from time to time.

Something is using up almost ALL of my physical memory!

50 posted on 03/14/2015 5:09:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool
why doesn't he out of the goodness of his heart free everyone in purgatory???

Got to keep a balance in the Treasury of Merits.

51 posted on 03/14/2015 11:40:16 AM PDT by xone
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