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Early Church Evidence Refutes Real Presence
One Fold ^ | March 11,2015 | unknown

Posted on 03/11/2015 2:49:15 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: 21twelve; Elsie

Sorry, Elsie...I didn’t know. Well I still hope you like my picture of dawn at the Outer Banks.

....i’m a lumberjack and that’s okay....!


361 posted on 03/15/2015 11:49:39 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (If Hitler, Nazi, OR...McCarthy are mentioned in an argument, then the arguement is over!)
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To: terycarl

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You’ll find out at the Great White Throne.
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362 posted on 03/15/2015 8:06:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: muir_redwoods

Why do you assume conflict?


363 posted on 03/16/2015 4:47:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mdmathis6
My arguments with liberals often have had them yelling about Hitler, fascists, and the evil McCarthy.

Similarly...

My arguments with Catholics often have them yelling about Hitler, fascists, and the evil LUTHER!!!

364 posted on 03/16/2015 4:48:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mdmathis6

It’s VERY pretty!

You’ve learned well; Grasshopper.


365 posted on 03/16/2015 4:49:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Because that’s all my original comment seems to have elicited.


366 posted on 03/16/2015 5:42:35 AM PDT by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: editor-surveyor
You’ll find out at the Great White Throne.

Yeah, I know...I'm following the religion that Christ, Himself, ordained...I avail myself of His seven sacraments,I help those less furtunate than I, I attend Mass faithfully...and I accept the fact that He is my Saavior....what else is there???

367 posted on 03/16/2015 8:42:13 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Elsie
My arguments with Catholics often have them yelling about Hitler, fascists, and the evil LUTHER!!!

Luther was possibly the cause of the loss of more souls that any other human in history.

368 posted on 03/16/2015 8:45:29 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: terycarl
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>> "Yeah, I know...I'm following the religion that Christ Satan, Himself, ordained..." <<

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369 posted on 03/16/2015 8:50:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: terycarl

Luther was possibly the cause of the loss of more souls that any other human in history.


Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

370 posted on 03/17/2015 12:31:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
...and I accept the fact that He is my Saavior....what else is there???

Indeed!


 
 
Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

371 posted on 03/17/2015 12:33:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Luther was possibly the cause of the loss of more souls that any other human in history.

Ah, the naughty Pope list.....and yet not one of those Popes urged people to leave Christ's church and follow them down the road to whatever dismal fate awaited them....as did Luther!

372 posted on 03/17/2015 3:46:33 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: terycarl

Poor tery.

Can’t abide seeing how his precious chosen religion has had such LOSERS to lead it...

Has to take it out on another Catholic who was pointing out the NAKED Emperor.


373 posted on 03/18/2015 5:50:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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