Posted on 02/28/2015 12:17:20 PM PST by RnMomof7
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Thanks. I have had the same experiences over my lifetime in the different churches I have gone too.
Pastor makes it clear that he is no different/better than anyone attending and that his primary purpose is to educate folks on Jesus and to make sure everyone understands who He is and why they should absolutely love Him. All this delivered in a regular speaking tone and interspersed with current societal examples. Pastor also made it clear that we will never be told what his political leanings are because the purpose of the Church is to get people to know, love, trust, and rely on Jesus.
“If your church is not following Acts 2:38 for converting souls”
Worship is not intended for converting souls. Worship is focused on God, not man.
But wait!
There’s more!
And it’s actually right there where the OP gets his snips. Leaves out this whole section. Now, why in the world do you suppose this whole section is IGNORED??
CHAPTER LXVI — OF THE EUCHARIST.
And this food is called among us Eukaristia [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh. For the apostles, in the memoirs composed by them, which are called Gospels, have thus delivered unto us what was enjoined upon them; that Jesus took bread, and when He had given thanks, said, “This do ye in remembrance of Me, this is My body;” and that, after the same manner, having taken the cup and given thanks, He said, “This is My blood;” and gave it to them alone. Which the wicked devils have imitated in the mysteries of Mithras, commanding the same thing to be done. For, that bread and a cup of water are placed with certain incantations in the mystic rites of one who is being initiated, you either know or can learn.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-firstapology.html
Except that they are.
CHAPTER LXVI -- OF THE EUCHARIST.
Link in my post 25
For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished IS THE FLESH AND BLOOD OF THAT JESUS WHO WAS MADE FLESH.
of course what Justin Martyr described and thank you to rnmomof7 for posting is the Catholic Mass.
to all followers of the 16th century tradition of men, Justin faithfully describes to you the Apostolic Faith...the Eucharist is the Body of Christ.
So you think Jesus sinned by eating blood ey?
And this food is called among us Eukaristia [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true
isn’t ironic, Justin Martyr would not allow the author of this piece Nathan Busewitz, nor the other followers of the 16th century tradition of men to share the Eucharist with the second century Church since he and the others deny the Eucharist is the Body of Christ.
no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes the things we teach are true.........
as A. Morrisette sang “isn’t it ironic, don’t you think?”
1 Corinthians 10:16
the cup of blessing which we bless, IS IT NOT A PARTICIPATION IN THE BLOOD OF CHRIST?
those blindly following the 16th century tradition of men would have to answer Paul - no, the cup contains wine, nothing more, nothing less.
see how different the Apostolic Faith believed by Justin Martyr and Christians for 2,000 years is than the tradition of men?
Why do Catholics assign the sin of eating blood to Jesus then still try to claim He was sinless?
Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Why do Sola churches distribute red grape juice? Why not purple Kool Ade? Or carrot juice?
My point was that the OP blatantly IGNORES the complete rendering of Justin Martyr's explanation. He leaves out a whole chapter. Some might call that intellectual dishonesty.
Would you disagree with that?
is the cup of blessing St Paul talks about in 1 Corinthians 10 a participation with the blood of Christ, yes or no?
answer that and then I will answer whether a Christian is literally buried with Christ, but your answer must start with either YES or NO.
You haven’t answered my question.
Your stalker continues her infatuation with you!
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
like·ness
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noun
noun: likeness; plural noun: likenesses
the fact or quality of being alike; resemblance. "her likeness to him was astonishing" synonyms: resemblance, similarity, similitude, correspondence "her likeness to Anne is quite uncanny" antonyms: dissimilarity
the semblance, guise, or outward appearance of. "humans are described as being made in God's likeness" synonyms: semblance, guise, appearance, outward form, form, shape, image
"she appeared in the likeness of a ghost" a portrait or representation. "the only known likeness of Dorothy as a young woman" synonyms: representation, image, depiction, portrayal;
Your question is nonsense. You cannot account for the FACT that Protestants and Sola Christians distribute red grape juice as a symbol. If it does not symbolize blood, then what does it symbolize?
I don't think it means what you think it means.
koinónia - spiritual fellowship, a fellowship in the spirit. [http://biblehub.com/greek/2842.htm]
1 Corinthians 10:16 The cup of the blessing that we bless -- is it not the fellowship (koinónia) of the blood of the Christ? the bread that we break -- is it not the fellowship (koinónia) of the body of the Christ?
2 Corinthians 13:14 the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship (koinónia) of the Holy Spirit, is with you all! Amen.
Galatians 2:9 and having known the grace that was given to me, James, and Cephas, and John, who were esteemed to be pillars, a right hand of fellowship (koinónia) they did give to me, and to Barnabas, that we to the nations, and they to the circumcision may go,
Philippians 1:5 For your fellowship (koinónia) in the gospel from the first day until now;
Philippians 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship (koinónia) of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Did you also literally suffer with Christ?
Don this article is about church services not a discussion of transubstantion. As we both know that was a doctrine that all church fathers did not have agreement on. This quote does show that the early church had no mass and no “sacrifice” Note no priest , no mass. The pastor was called the” president”. Later the church called the pastors “clerks”.
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