Posted on 02/12/2015 9:20:08 AM PST by marshmallow
My son is divorced and remarried. However, his first wife was having an affair four months after their wedding and literally dumped his stuff on the curb while her boyfriend moved in months before they were divorced. I don’t regard him as being married and the divorce was no fault of his. He is now happily married and I expect this marriage will last forever. I cannot see barring people in his situation from the sacraments.
Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby.
The Catholic Church would most likely grant an annulment to your son in the case you have illustrated. But it would take time, a good deal of money, and they’d put him through some rather invasive and uncomfortable questioning.
Many people would rather just leave the Church than go through that. Particularly if it involves asking your children to testify against one of their parents. That is a bridge too far for many people.
And I believe the Catholic position is that the price of divorce here on earth is that you aren't allowed to remarry. That doesn't mean you you can't be forgiven and still have salvation. Like I said, I am not a Catholic and am not saying I necessarily agree with their position but I do understand their reasoning and position.
Annulment is not that bad. It is not that costly either, $750.00 from start to finish.
I am going through the process now. There are a lot of questions to be sure, but the “price” of the process is fixed and it takes roughly a year and that is if the other party is completely stubborn about it.
I believe you are right about their position. And they have the right to hold that position with regard to their members. Just makes me glad I am not a Catholic! :-)
Or as is the current trend "be all inclusive as to not exclude anyone" which is a trend ALL churches are following. Watch closely in the future as that philosophy plays out within and between all religions.
I'm sure the author meant African-American! ^_-
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Plain and simple facts of the dynamic.
I gather you're not Catholic and don't believe in the indissolubility of marriage in the first place but that's not the first time the world has heard "Non Serviam"... probably won't be the last either.
The repentance that is needed is for the ongoing adultery that violates a still existing marriage. Repent from that and start living a chaste life that respects that you are still married to your first spouse and you can receive Communion.
Those who have insisted on giving Communion to Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, John Kerry, et al., are the same bishops and priests who are now going to give Communion to adulterers and fornicators.
The Pope and the majority of bishops are going into schism. The new church will give Communion to abortionists, thereby teaching that abortion is licit. The new church will give Communion to adulterers and fornicators, thereby teaching that adultery and fornication are licit.
The dioceses where the bishop teaches the Catholic Faith number about ten or fifteen in the United States. There are two or three in Western Europe.
The Pope is not a Catholic, and will shortly be actively persecuting and “disciplining” bishops who are Catholic.
What is your definition of "repentance"? According to your definition, if a person continues to commit a sin, has he "repented" of that sin?
That is not a price or penalty for divorce. Following the clear teaching of our Lord, divorce is not possible. Since the so-called "divorced" marriage is still an active and continuing marriage, sexual relations in violation of it are adultery.
Well, I was raised Catholic, I just don’t believe that there is no room for error in the human heart. For the church to take a strident stance on the matter and decide that this is a mistake they cannot countenance whatsoever; well, that’s just a bridge too far for me. If that’s the stance and there is no room for forgiveness in this regard... I guess you can just call me Lucifer then.
God appears to be more than happy to forgive adultery... one just has to stop committing it. Remember what the Catholic Church teaches about Holy Communion: it’s the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Our Lord... to receive Communion in a sinful state is to invite disaster, both spiritual and physical. The Church isn’t being mean by telling sinners not to communicate, the Church is trying to keep bad situations from getting worse.
It’s go and sin no more, not go and sin some more.
Homosexuals have to stop practicing homosexuality, alcoholics have to stop being drunks and adulterers have to stop committing adultery. It’s very simple, not necessarily easy.
I guess that’s where my break with the catholic church begins then - because I am considered an adulterer for something I had little to no control over (no fault divorce, cheating and all that).
The helter-skelter way in which the message is sent from one church, then changed by another is just too much to reconcile with the rest of the messages.
I had decided well before your second post that this is indeed something I need to discuss with the pastor at the church I attend. Based on that answer, I guess will be my decision on whether or not I continue to attend. Not because I want to live in sin, but because I don’t see it that way based on circumstances well beyond what can be explained in a few internet posts.
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