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Girl Scout Cookies: Now That I Know, No Thank You
NC Register ^ | February 3, 2015 | ANN SALADIN

Posted on 02/03/2015 2:37:14 PM PST by NYer

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So, I'll just throw this out there. Do ANY of our tax dollars support Planned Parenthood? Here, let me answer that for you.
41 posted on 02/03/2015 7:17:39 PM PST by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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To: NYer

What is the actual specific support of Planned Parenthood by the Girl Scouts today? I’m googling, trying to find it, and even all the Lifesite links are very vague.


42 posted on 02/03/2015 7:28:00 PM PST by Yaelle (No Cruz? Then "I'm Ready for Hillary; What Difference Does It Make?")
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To: Yaelle

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pelosi-girl-scouts-relationship-planned-parenthood-very-valuable


43 posted on 02/03/2015 8:57:16 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SkyDancer

The local troop gets something like 20 cents a box.
A girl is lucky if she sells 100 boxes.
The council executive gets $100K a year or more.


44 posted on 02/04/2015 5:13:08 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: DesertRhino

“but that’s not cool to go up and get confrontational or firm with the little girls. They didn’t create the organization, they are just kids.”

The “kids” are old enough to learn about condoms and homo marriages at this age. They’re certainly old enough to be educated about the murder of babies.


45 posted on 02/04/2015 5:17:34 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: SkyDancer

For someone who now claims that they don’t support abortion, you have been doing a damned consistent effort to imply that those who oppose abortion in public are doing something wrong.

Several of us (myself included) tell abortion fund raisers that what they are doing is wrong. Even if those fund raisers are little girls.

We do that because the lives of babies matters more than someone being ashamed of helping kill babies.

So just how far does your supposed non support of abortion go?

What, you won’t stick a wire in and saw them up yourself?

These Andre really fair questions to be asking you, because you make it clear that you personally disapprove of any more concrete opposition to abortion than not doing them.

Maybe you think we should sit in our closets if we are going to be saying abortion is bad. That position fits in with your posting.


46 posted on 02/04/2015 7:21:35 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Buying girls scout cookies supports abortion and homosexual recruiting.

Thanks, there are alternatives out there.


47 posted on 02/04/2015 7:22:50 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GeronL

I really don’t understand the capitulation on the part of the Boy Scouts.

They must truly not understand that the goal of the left/homo agenda is not to be included in the Boy Scouts, but to DESTROY THEM.


48 posted on 02/04/2015 7:24:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MayflowerMadam

“I’m sorry little girl, but you may not know that the money made on that box of cookies is used to kill little babies. Have you or your mom heard of American Heritage Girls?”


49 posted on 02/04/2015 7:25:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GeronL

You may be right, but for now I will take him at his word. During his term, it’s a dead issue.


50 posted on 02/04/2015 7:26:24 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: MrEdd

Well for you who supports abortions that’s an interesting statement.


51 posted on 02/04/2015 7:31:56 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: NYer

Is a lesbian still leading the girl scouts?


52 posted on 02/04/2015 7:39:20 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: MrB

For a while, the BSA has been about two things - money and membership. The professional organization is a mess. The support for actual units is generally pretty horrible.

Their camp system is good, but there are almost twice the camps needed to serve their members.

Parent demographics didn’t just shift on them, it was almost pulled out from under them. Den mothers used to be stay at home parents of a two parent family.

Now, the key demo is the single parent household. The professionals don’t staff the units. They train volunteers who staff the units.

The key deliverable sought by most families approaching Cub Scouts is father surrogacy. To a lesser extent, single parents of like minds also seek each other out to form new nuclear families.

National aims almost nothing at the parent, which is stupid. Gates is starting to use earned media to change all of that.

Their fundraising system is based on last century’s technology. They have no marketing or political talent working for them at a level high enough to influence national that bucking the trend will do more for them long term than not.

Because CORPORATE dollars drive the National office, they are very sensitive to the perception of having to change or starve.

It’s the POLAR OPPOSITE of what’s being sought at the unit level. At the unit level, Scoutcraft, values, discipline, citizenship, and the opportunity to learn something about outdoor sports like fishing, camping, and shooting.

National screwed up huge recently by going in hock to the tune of almost a half-billion on their Bechtel Summit Camp in WV.

While folks at the National Jamboree had a good time, temps got up beyond 100, with 90 percent humidity. The camp is about 20 times bigger than can be sustained, and that may be an optimistic estimate. Over 60 showerhouses, which gives you an idea of the beginning of the overhead issues.

Getting to WV is pretty difficult too, especially from the West. Philmont is about perfect, and as a camp it is going strong, but it doesn’t have the modern attractions and amenities that Summit does.

Unlike the GSA, the BSA TRIED staying out of the politics. You don’t come to the BSA to have sex, to talk about it, or tie anything involved in what Sir Baden Powell was about into what the BSA was trying to do.

Donors, the big ones, made them take a stand on it because while they understood that predators came to the BSA because ‘that’s where the prey was’, it wasn’t an argument that resonated with Target. or AT&T, etc.

You sponsor groups like the BSA because in some way it burnishes the goodwill of the company and preserves or increases the value of the company to shareholders. When supporting a group like the BSA doesn’t do that - for whatever reason, then you stop supporting it.

Now even the LDS is caving on this crap, and now that we have Pope Che in the Holy See, they are caving too. Baptists are holding firm.

In the end, it’s about bucks. What the units want isn’t what National wants to provide, and like other unions and legacy companies, they are staring at pension liabilities and medical insurance costs that have driven up the cost of providing national staff far faster than inflation.

Gates isn’t a turnaround artist, and neither was Rex Tillerson. They have a great, great product. Their program is outstanding. The company needs to be turned around, and it can be.

I don’t have a problem with membership because our program is very strong, and all over our units are integrated beneath a ‘master unit’. The Pack, Troop, and Crew all work together to provide a program, and recruiting Cubs is a breeze. They become Scouts, find girlfriends, and take them shooting, rafting, climbing, and snowmobiling with the Crew. Informally, they also hunt.

It’s crack for kids looking for adventure and something other than their phones. Believe me, they’re bored too, and the phone thing is getting old. They’ve abandoned Facebook, and now instagram is the thing. Twitter is dead or dying too outside of corporate and entertainment America.

Support for scouting is going a little underground. Big companies are providing ‘matching hours’ that go directly to Councils rather than national anymore. You donate an hour to your unit, you get $15 for your Council (or unit, if you organize your unit under a Non-Profit chartering entity that can accept the donation directly, rather than through somebody like the Elks).

Companies are hungry for Eagle Scouts, and it is still the case that an Eagle on the transcript gets you placed into a separate, shorter stack of applications. An Eagle gets you an extra stripe out of boot camp too.

Boeing organizes their work teams based on Baden Powell’s patrol method (no more than 8 - independent groups - Using EDGE method to train and cross train - answering to a ‘senior patrol leader’ that largely orients the teams to the corporate objectives.)

There are a lot of elite companies using this basic organizational premise too.

Gay is doing what it was designed to do - make it harder to be a country that shares a simple, single set of core beliefs on what we stand for.

The BSA is just another group caught in that crossfire, and there are consequences for holding firm. They are struggling to cut the rope without cutting the rope.

I think the pendulum is starting to swing back in the other direction, and the BSA may get another 20 years to fix itself, but it is going to take more than ‘sticking to their guns’. They need a corporate restructuring, and there is so much invested emotional capital by the folks who run and fund it at the national level that making those changes will not be easy.


53 posted on 02/04/2015 8:11:18 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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Well, the drive for money and membership just went out the window.

There is so much attrition since this decision that the BSA will be a ghost of its former self.

www.traillifeusa.com - walk worthy


54 posted on 02/04/2015 8:54:07 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: NYer

It’s been more than a decade since we bought their cookies.
It makes me wonder why their homosexual leaders are so interested in teaching little girls about baby killing. Nothing they do together would ever result in them having a child.. they sure are interested in other peoples children though.


55 posted on 02/04/2015 4:01:40 PM PST by Trillian
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They also have a "sex education" component and they promote "family planning" and abortion

I just say NO to Girl scout cookies

56 posted on 02/04/2015 4:25:22 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: NYer

The dykes took over the organization a long time ago.


57 posted on 02/04/2015 5:57:44 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Sacajaweau

I had no problem shoving those commie cookies down my throat they were delicious.


58 posted on 02/18/2015 2:17:29 PM PST by angcat
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