Skip to comments.Orthodox Christian Nun Condemns Muslim Faith While Catholic Nuns Decry, ‘Sister, That’s Enough’
Posted on 12/28/2014 4:03:24 PM PST by ebb tide
An Orthodox Christian nun, Sister Hatune Dogan, is struggling finding a location that will allow her to speak on the atrocities she has witness in the Middle East and around the globe. Though Sister Hatune has spent her life helping Christians who have been persecuted, and helped countless people in need, the nun has found that her message is not welcome in many communities.
What is so controversial about the nuns speeches? Sister Hatune uses her speaking platform as a way to warn against the atrocities of the Muslim faith.
WND reports that Sister Hatune warned of the current state of the Middle East and the detrimental effects it could have on Americans if they do not head her warnings. Sister Hatune spoke last week in Minnesota to several church groups where her speeches had mixed reactions.
Sister Hatune wants Americans to know that ISIS is nothing new, and is not the exception to the rule when it comes to Muslims or followers of the Quran. In fact, she goes so far as to say ISIS is the true representation of the Muslim faith.
ISIS is not fanatic. ISIS is not more terrible. ISIS is real Muslim believers who like to follow the Quran and Muhammad.
The nun spoke on the fact that America seems complacent about allowing the Muslim faith into its borders and that political correctness could lead to the persecution and death of Christians throughout the world, including America. Sister Hatune knows what could happen because her homeland, Turkey, experienced it first-hand. The nun speaks about the mass genocide of over 3 million Christians in Turkey in 1915 and the subsequent demise of Christians all across the Middle East.
Sister Hatune points to the fact that 96 percent of the people who populated the Middle East at the turn of the eighth century were Christian. Now, that Christian population has dwindled to 6 percent. Turkey was once almost all Christian, but now it is 0.03 percent Christian. Iraq had 1 million Christians under Saddam Hussein, but now only a few thousand remain, and the churches of Baghdad will be mostly empty this Christmas.
Sister Hatune uses her time speaking to western churches to encourage them to learn what is written in the Muslim holy book. She feels that if they did, they would see that ISIS is only doing what the Quran calls for, the killing of infidels.
If they did, they would realize that the Islamic State, also called ISIS, is not doing anything that hasnt been done in the past by devout Muslims who have conquered a people they see as infidels.'
The nun says that the Quran is filled with hate and hate-speech. She claims that the Muslim holy book calls for the killing of Christians 25 times, gives men the right to rape female slaves, and to crucify non-believers. Sister Hatune says she hears often in the west that the verses she quotes in the Quran are being taken out of context. However, she strongly disagrees saying she has viewed with her own eyes what the Islamic rule looks like. She speaks specifically to the plight of women in countries under Sharia law.
Education is not allowed for the girls. The women are created for the sex for the gents, she said. If she becomes raped she has to bring four men with her as witness. Of course it is impossible, so she will be stoned. There are so many women and girls who die from stoning.
However, not everyone agrees with Sister Hatunes ideas or presentations that include detailed descriptions of rape, murder and persecution against Christian minorities in the Middle East. In fact, during a speech for a group of Catholic nuns, five or six nuns walked out before the presentation was over. One Catholic nun exclaimed, Sister, thats enough, fearing that the nuns rhetoric would incite violence against Muslims in the community.
Though her message is not always welcome, Sister Hatune seems to remain consistent in her message that America is inviting a slaughter into their country.
America is inviting its own slaughterers to its door. You have already a parallel society in America. In 50 years they will kill your grandchildren before your eyes. The Middle East is already here. It is here. It is not far from here. It is at your door.
What do you think of Sister Hatunes blunt speeches against the Muslim faith? Are the Catholic nuns correct in worrying that her speeches could result in violence against Muslims in the country currently?
May God Bless this dear Christian Lady with His loving protection, in Jesus name.
I can’t stand it when I see those stupid coexist bumper stickers
All the explosions and beheadings are enough. Preach it, sister.
Some Christians have the courage...and the wisdom...to speak the truth.Sadly,almost none of those Christians hold positions of “influence” in the *Catholic* Church.
I'm no fan of Islam, but this is not a fair criticism.
This is very nearly the exact opposite of what Mohammed put in the Koran, which requires the testimony of four Muslim men to convict a woman of adultery. It was intended to provide protection for women against such charges.
This is not the way it is often applied in the Muslim world, but that's due to misapplication of the Koran, not the Koran itself.
Sister Hatune is a saint. People want to keep their heads in the sand.
“”In 50 years they will kill your grandchildren before your eyes. The Middle East is already here. It is here. It is not far from here. It is at your door. “”
It’s exactly this that has all of us concerned. We fear not for ourselves as we can fight but what will it be like for our children and grandchildren? Not a pleasant prospect.
Good for the good nun. More please!
“Sister, thats enough, fearing that the nuns rhetoric would incite violence against Muslims in the community.””
No wonder nothing gets done about this menace. We have a few brave ones (mostly women) willing to speak up and others who are too afraid of their own shadows to help spread the alarm. “incite violence against muslims” - presumably she’s speaking to church groups and other nuns are afraid the members will commit violence? What kind of ninnies are these people?
If true, this is revolting.
These COWARDLY, WORTHLESS, GUTLESS “Christians” aren’t worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit.
I’M sick of so many who just will NOT FIGHT.
Grow some balls—before THE AXE FALLS!!
I know that feeling. When was the last time anyone, anywhere, ever, saw a granola-eating Mohammedan hippie in a majority-Mohammedan country with that bumper sticker?
Liberal nuns are real idiots
How do you know that these Catholic nuns were “liberal”? I have yet to see any so-called “conservative” Catholic nun or member of the hierarchy say anything close to what this Orthodox nun has stated. Now, ask a truly Traditional Catholic nun or priest (those that believe the Catholic Faith as it was pre-Vatican II) and you’ll get the Truth.
I say the nuns that departed the lecture were liberal due to their criticism of the truth which is that Islam is at war with all non-Islams and want to dominate or kill us.
The Orthodox nun is correct. I have seen many silly liberal nuns. Some with nail polish and jewelry.
But I’m saying that they could very well be what you and others here would normally consider “conservative” nuns.
The western rite “Nuns” should read a little more history and understand their faith. One is not called to “love” evil or to remain silent about it. We see how the Apostles dealt with the Jews of their time for persecuting and crucifying Jesus as recorded in the Acts of the Apostles. Would these “modern” nuns also criticize the Apostles?
Phillip Schaff wrote a concise History of the Church in which he deals with Islam. Every western religious and clergy should be familiar with it.
Chapter III, Vol. IV
MOHAMMEDANISM IN ITS RELATION TO CHRISTIANITY.
“There is no God but God, and Mohammed is his apostle.”The Koran.
“There is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself a ransom for all.”1 Tim. ii. 5, 6.
While new races and countries in Northern and Western Europe, unknown to the apostles, were added to the Christian Church, we behold in Asia and Africa the opposite spectacle of the rise and progress of a rival religion which is now acknowledged by more than one-tenth of the inhabitants of the globe. It is called “Mohammedanism” from its founder, or “Islâm,” from its chief virtue, which is absolute surrender to the one true God. Like Christianity, it had its birth in the Shemitic race, the parent of the three monotheistic religions, but in an obscure and even desert district, and had a more rapid, though less enduring success.
But what a difference in the means employed and the results reached! Christianity made its conquest by peaceful missionaries and the power of persuasion, and carried with it the blessings of home, freedom and civilization. Mohammedanism conquered the fairest portions of the earth by the sword and cursed them by polygamy, slavery, despotism and desolation. The moving power of Christian missions was love to God and man; the moving power of Islâm was fanaticism and brute force. Christianity has found a home among all nations and climes; Mohammedanism, although it made a most vigorous effort to conquer the world, is after all a religion of the desert, of the tent and the caravan, and confined to nomad and savage or half-civilized nations, chiefly Arabs, Persians, and Turks. It never made an impression on Europe except by brute force; it is only encamped, not really domesticated, in Constantinople, and when it must withdraw from Europe it will leave no trace behind.
Islâm in its conquering march took forcible possession of the lands of the Bible, and the Greek church, seized the throne of Constantine, overran Spain, crossed the Pyrenees, and for a long time threatened even the church of Rome and the German empire, until it was finally repulsed beneath the walls of Vienna. The Crusades which figure so prominently in the history of mediaeval Christianity, originated in the desire to wrest the holy land from the followers of “the false prophet,” and brought the East in contact with the West. The monarchy and the church of Spain, with their architecture, chivalry, bigotry, and inquisition, emerged from a fierce conflict with the Moors. Even the Reformation in the sixteenth century was complicated with the Turkish question, which occupied the attention of the diet of Augsburg as much as the Confession of the Evangelical princes and divines. Luther, in one of his most popular hymns, prays for deliverance from “the murdering Pope and Turk,” as the two chief enemies of the gospel137; and the Anglican Prayer Book, in the collect for Good Friday, invokes God “to have mercy upon all Turks,” as well as upon “Jews, Infidels, and Heretics.”138
The danger for Western Christendom from that quarter has long since passed away; the “unspeakable” Turk has ceased to be unconquerable, but the Asiatic and a part of the East European portion of the Greek church are still subject to the despotic rule of the Sultan, whose throne in Constantinople has been for more than four hundred years a standing insult to Christendom.
Mohammedanism then figures as a hostile force, as a real Ishmaelite in church history; it is the only formidable rival which Christianity ever had, the only religion which for a while at least aspired to universal empire.
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