Posted on 11/09/2014 10:10:11 AM PST by ebb tide
Of course you skipped something. You skipped this:
But also — a parenthesis — the Orthodox have a different practice. They follow the theology of the economy, as we call it, and give a second possibility, they allow it. But I think this problem — close the parenthesis — must be studied in the framework of matrimonial ministry.
How could you (or why did you) skip that part?
Because he was speaking parenthetically about what the Greeks do.
And yet, instead of recommending this logical and clear exposition of the teachings of Christ for the edification of the faithful, Pope Francis promotes the heretical maunderings of the book authored by Cardinal Kasper and mocks the faithful who present him with Rosary bouquets. These data points raise serious questions regarding the source of the "spirit" he invokes to justify the "lio" he is determined to create. Fr. Gabriele Amorth, the exorcist/author discusses clerical cases of demonic "vexation" in his book, "Memoirs of an Exorcist". Perhaps we need to double down on the Rosary bouquets for Pope Francis, despite his distaste for such endeavors.
Francis wasn’t speaking parenthetically when he praised Kasper, in front of the bishops, after Kasper made his case for the Catholic Church to allow giving Holy Communion to adulterers, just as the Orthodox do.
Francis later allowed the same sinful proposal to brought up in the SinNod. Why doesn’t he allow incest to brought up next year?
You have falsely accused me of calling Cardinal Wuerl a homosexual; you have twice implied I’m doing the work of the Devil; yet you deliberatleyl parse interviews to fit your Pollyanna view of Francis.
Any good Catholic would expect a good Catholic pope to immediately shut-down all talk of willingly compounding mortal sin with more sin. But from a previous post (Post 33) of yours, it appears you’re open to such a move, as Francis obviously is. Yet, when I plead the case of the past Magisterium, you accuse me of doing the devil’s work.
It looks like you and I are on different teams; but mine has a better track record than yours.
Again, you read only what you want to read.
No, rather novel doctrine was proposed (see the interim report) and then resoundingly shot down by a few real Catholic bishops; thus; a speechless Francis could not rubber stamp that which he had wanted to stamp.
That is where, in my opinion, the Holy Ghost may have come into play.
P.S. One of those few, real Catholic bishops has been rudely removed from three of his posts and exiled to an "honorary" position. Will you blame that action on Kasper; or will you finally admit to who's pulling Kasper puppet strings? Who has brought Kasper back into the limelight and set him upon a pedestal?
No, not only was the the voting held in secret, so were the discussions/debates held in secret.
Only post-session interviews were allowed.
If I'm wrong, please publish or tell us the source where we can read the full discussion that occurred during Francis' secret Sin-Nod. Maybe then, we can make more semblance of who voted for what sins.
I stopped reading your post right there. Until you apologize for that statement; I will not consider you as a Catholic. You do not know the state of my soul.
I did not know that. Where does accusing one to be manipulated by the Devil come into play?
Nor should the occupant of the Chair of Peter sling mud at his fellow Catholics who merely wish to practice the faith of their fathers. See Francis' Little Book of Insults, it's all about dishing Catholics; no other religions does he criticize. Meanwhile, he refuses to give his own blessing to an audience, for fear of offending non-belivers; but he runs around seeking the blessing of every Protestant he can find.
Take a look at my profile page and review the rules very carefully.
If your idea of unity is the same as Francis', we're still on opposite teams. I'm united with the Franciscan Fathers of the Immaculate, with Cardinal Burke, both of whom have been suppressed, censored and humiliated by Francis, with Pope Benedict and all the past popes.
Yet your team captain, has chosen Cardinals Kasper, Marx, Maradiaga, O'Malley (all material heretics), etc. to be his new confidents and Iron Horsemen.
The bookies won't even post odds on this game.
My apologies. However, we are being manipulated by the devil and his minions. It is called temptation.
That said, I will abide by your rules.
Let me know when you stop suffering temptation. Let me know when you stop giving into it.
If you are a person, like everyone else, you suffer temptation, and occasionally give into it.
Let me know stop when you stop suffering illusions that Francis is impeccable and cannot be criticized, no matter what nonsense he spouts.
Michael Voris comes to mind.
I never said either of those things. Rather, if you are going to criticize, which can be done vigorously and honestly, do it with respect for the office.
I have the utmost respect for the office; it’s a shame that the current occupant doesn’t. He won’t even claim the title of Pope; rather, he calls himself, “Bishop of Rome”. That’s Humble Jorge for ya!
Show me where I have ever criticized the office and not the man. I’m not a Protestant.
You are making stuff up again. Just like you did about Wuerl.
Perhaps in criticizing the man, you could also be more respectful. That isn’t to suggest he is either above criticism or impeccable, rather, he is the Pope and deserves a modicum of respect.
BTW, why won’t you let the sleeping dog lie (Wuerl)? You got your apology, yet you continue to bring it up.
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