Posted on 10/15/2014 8:46:30 AM PDT by Salvation
The liberals are using the press the way they did during Vatican II, to get their message out to the Catholic world before the Vatican could present its agenda to the Council. The Jebbies were responsible for that. too.
Wuerl has ben taking this line for years. Maybe it is just the case that many of his friends in the priesthood are homosexuals. Never have I read anything he has written that conceded that the so-called pedophiles who ruined the reputation of the Church are indeed, homosexuals. There are, for course, many homosexual priests who are faithful, but the “virus in their bloodstreams” is a bit like Malaria. Many of these men much be under an almost intolerable strain to conform.
Thanks for the flag.
Someone remarked on another thread about how, many years ago, when discussions by bishops had many thinking that the Church was getting ready to approve of artificial birth control, “Humanae Vitae” straightened out that bit of misunderstanding.
Why does it fall upon this particular Cardinal to concede anything? During investigations and what not the accused as well as all parties to the suit are told to remain silent by the lawyers. There are also privacy of the victims considerations. If it happened to your kid would you want everyone to know about it?
Some ill and disordered people have lied and unjustly made accusations that were not true.
It is also true that just because they ae a Catholic priest does not mean they do not get due process. Does your employer publish the names of people who are disciplined in the newspaper?
But putting all of that aside what do you all suggest we do with homosexual people? Should we hang them? Should we put super glue in their anus as they do in the middle east? I am not really sure why this is used as a club to beat the 98% of Catholics who are innocent of all of this. I am not sure what purpose it serves.
Calling the cardinal a homosexual? Why what evidence is there? Would you prefer he condemn to Hell all of them? Would that make everyone feel better, even though as a mere mortal he has not the power to do that?
Here is a question for all of you, if a priest is a homosexual because he refuses to condemn them and it fact attempts to minister to them, does not by that logic make Jesus a prostitute, drunkard and thief?
Checking on his retirement age.
Donald William Wuerl (born November 12, 1940 — so he is 74. Isn’t the mandatory retirement age 75?
Cardinal Wuerl needs to read and take to heart today’s first reading.
Reading 1 Gal 5:18-25
Brothers and sisters:
If you are guided by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Now the works of the flesh are obvious:
immorality, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry,
sorcery, hatreds, rivalry, jealousy,
outbursts of fury, acts of selfishness,
dissensions, factions, occasions of envy,
drinking bouts, orgies, and the like.
I warn you, as I warned you before,
that those who do such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
In contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace,
patience, kindness, generosity,
faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.
Against such there is no law.
Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified their flesh
with its passions and desires.
If we live in the Spirit, let us also follow the Spirit.
Wuerl allows PRO-ABORT politicians to receive communion. That is fact. End of story. It is not from “liberal” websites I get my info. It is from conservative sites that despise him because of his LIBERAL theology. He not only allows pro-abort politicians for communion, he has allowed homosexuals living with each other to receive communion.
http://spectator.org/articles/57167/reaping-wuerl-wind
None of that proves he is in fact a homosexual, which is how this discussion started. What shall we do with pro-abortion politicians. Should we stop Mass and behead them? I really beginning to just about hate everything on this forum. I think I’ll take a break.
FR has it’s own contributing Catholic priest. His name is Arthur MacGowan. I suggest you ask him what he thinks about Wuerl.
The John Jay Report tells us that most of the actual perps were Homosexual males, and that what they were guilty of was not playing with young children but young men who were part puberty. Homosexual behavior.
The John Jay Report tells us that most of the actual perps were Homosexual males, and that what they were guilty of was not playing with young children but young men who were part puberty. Homosexual behavior.
As for a priest on FR. At face value I will accept it for here, but with all the BS that occurs on this forum on a daily basis, you'll forgive me if I stick to guys I know are priests. Not saying I don't believe you, but it's the Internet.
The only fans I know of Wuerl are CINOs, Catholics in Name only. Liberals like him. Practicing Catholics can’t stand him. Ask any Catholic familiar with his time as the bishop of Pittsburgh. He gutted Catholic education and closed down Churches and Catholic schools all over the diocese.
In cases where Church doctrine clashes with government policies, Wuerl has a reputation as a liberal. Wuerl supports serving pro-choice Catholic politicians communion in most cases, once saying, “Our primary job is to teach and try to convince people. The tradition in our country has not been in the direction of refusing Communion, and I think it’s served us well.”[25]
I would be most interested in hearing from the pastoral side. Most especially now that we deploy all these extraordinary ministers.
It is canon law that says pro-abortion politicians are to be refused communion. They openly mock the church show and show great scandal by going up for communion, while at the same time supporting and sponsoring pro-abortion legislation. Wuerl and Dolan and other liberal priests ignore canon law, and are allowed to get by with ignoring it.
Wuerl dances around the only thing that really matters: Giving Communion to pro-aborts is a mortal sin. He lies constantly, pretending the issue is anything but that.
One of the areas in which Popes are not infallible is the decision to create a Cardinal. Wuerl is a prodigious fundraiser.
Wuerl is the most notorious homosexual in the American hierarchy. Google the phrase “twirl with Wuerl.” It originated at the seminary in Pittsburgh where he was rector for many years: “To get through this place you have to have a twirl with Wuerl.”
Even if one discounts these “rumors,” the fact is that Wuerl is a notorious public sinner. Namely, he insists on giving Communion to pro-abortion politicians, and publicly-self-proclaimed unchaste homosexuals. Thus, Wuerl causes grave scandal. Giving grave scandal is a mortal sin. Thus, Wuerl obstinately persists in manifest grave sin. Thus, it is gravely scandalous for Wuerl to CELEBRATE MASS, because the celebration of Mass involves the reception of Communion.
There is not much the laity can do about this is there. I guess I have been spoiled by having good bishops.
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