Family Synod: Welcoming Gay Son’s Partner a ‘Model for Evangelisation’, Couple Says

The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 10/6/14 | Staff Reporter

[cloudmountain]

I certainly agree that if they are "welcoming" this sex-themed relationship, this is cooperation with evil --- cooperation with the ruin of their son.

It sure isn't that simple. It's your basic NO WIN.

A better way might be to simply see the son by himself at a neutral place like a restaurant, walk in the park, museum...or invite HIM on a short vacation or take HIM to dinner and a movie (an adventure movie).

The offers can be made to the son. This might keep the relationship intact AND not ruffle too many feathers.

[Mrs. Don-o]

All Synods are open to invite lay people -- including "periti" --- as far as I know. They aren't voting members. St. Ambrose of Milan (4th cntury) and St. Toribio of Mongrovejo (16th century) --- just off the top of my head --- attended synods when they were laymen.

[BlatherNaut]

But that doesn't mean that he and the second woman are not to come to your house.

Certainly it doesn't mean that they are never to come to your house, but on occasions when there is any possibility that their presence could lead to spiritual harm or confusion regarding Church teachings in the minds of others in attendance (especially children) then they should not be included in the gathering. Normalizing mortal sin in the minds of children is far more harmful than offending those who obstinately choose to ignore Church teaching.

Fr. Hardon: "To be the primary educators of their children for eternal life is not easy for parents. It never has been since the dawn of Christianity. But in today’s world, intoxicated with its own pride, addicted to its own pleasures, indoctrinated in its own propaganda that only temporal life exists and eternal life is a mirage — to become parents of eternal life demands heroism."

[Mrs. Don-o]

Thanks for the quote from Fr. Hardin. There’s a lot there to think about.

[rollo tomasi]

"How is the abomination in this article any different?"

We are in the year 2014 C.E. now and have WIFI, smartphones, as well as Tesla Model S's so anything goes.

[piusv]

Did they send out surveys to get input from all the lay folk too?

No, what is happening here is novelty.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Yeah. E-mail too.

[piusv]

If the Catholic Church wanted to get input from its lay folk it could have done so before email was invented. But it didn’t.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I think your survey of church history leaves some large gaps. Bishops used to be chosen by the acclamation and acceptance of the whole populace. Later they limited it to a consensus of all the clerics (of all grades), still later to all priests. Saints, too, used to be canonized by public acclamation.

I am not going to backed into accepting some kind of bogus democracy for the Church. I am opposed to that. I particularly deplore emotional popular movements lapping up foundation money, lobbying through the media and crowding toward the microphones.

But remember that both the Benedictines and the Franciscans were founded as communities for those NOT in Holy Orders. Lay people. The church hasn't always had every detail of its life run by a monarchial papacy and a baronial episcopacy.

[piusv]

Did that involvement include/affect doctrinal matters?

No.

[ebb tide]

I don’t know about you, but I will not welcome a complete stranger who happens to to be sodomizing my son “into my family”. I might shake their hand then show them the door, but they are not part of my family.

[BlatherNaut]

They fully believed in the Church’s teachings and they knew their grandchildren would see them welcome the son and his partner into the family.

They "fully believed in the Church's teachings" yet thought nothing of corrupting their grandchildren? I wonder if these brainwashed chumps are friends of Cdl. Dolan.

[ebb tide]

It's not only Catholic laypeople who are present. Francis invited other "faiths":

The Pope urged the wide-ranging representation from all the Churches of the world - in addition to guests from Fraternal Churches, Orthodox and Protestants - to get to the heart of the real situations of families in the world and find the most appropriate means to address the pastoral problems facing them.

The "curtain of secrecy" is slowing ripping apart.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Lay periti have always commented on doctrinal matters. They do not have a vote!!

[piusv]

For this reason, for the first time, in preparation for the Synod, every diocese and the congregation responded to a lengthy questionnaire that was a snapshot of the difficulties, situations and pastoral methods.

So every Tom, Dick and Harry lay folk were included in the preparation of the Synod. A novelty.

[BlatherNaut]

Pope to Synod on the Family: God’s dream always clashes with the hypocrisy of some of his servants

He relegates God's Plan to "dream" status.

The "pastoral problems" clearly originate among clerics of his stripe -- those who pervert the Gospel.

[BlatherNaut]

So every Tom, Dick and Harry lay folk were included in the preparation of the Synod. A novelty.

I wonder which cardinals will be sharing their views at Muslim and Jewish synods. /s

[Mrs. Don-o]

But not, for that reason, un-Catholic.

[piusv]

Well, this is why one does not take one change alone to recognize the moving away from Traditional Catholic beliefs and customs. This change is just more evidence of the Modernist claws in the Church.