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Pope Francis Adviser Hints at Rethink on Contraception Ban
Tha Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7/19/14 | John Bingham

Posted on 09/19/2014 6:37:35 PM PDT by marshmallow

Cardinal Walter Kasper, a close influence on Pope Francis, says it is up to parents to decide how many children to have ahead of global gathering of Roman Catholic bishops to discuss the family

A leading reformist Cardinal close to Pope Francis has hinted at the possibility of a reinterpretation of the Roman Catholic Church’s blanket ban on artificial contraception.

Cardinal Walter Kasper said it was “the responsibility of the parents” to decide how many children they should have.

He also said that so-called natural family planning, which is promoted by the Church as an alternative to contraception, also has an “artificial” element.

His comments in an interview with The Tablet, the Catholic weekly, are likely to reopen debate about one of the most contentious areas of Catholic teaching just weeks before a special global gathering of bishops in Rome to discuss the Church’s position on family matters.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; contraception; contraceptive; contraceptives; francis; humanaevitae; pope; popefrancis; prolife; vatican
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Cardinal Walter Kasper, a close influence on Pope Francis.......

Or is it the other way around?

1 posted on 09/19/2014 6:37:35 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Humanae Vitae.


2 posted on 09/19/2014 6:39:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: marshmallow
Prophetia Sancti Malachiae Archiepiscopi, de Summis Pontificibus, made up or not.

I don't really know much Latin; copied it from wiki.

3 posted on 09/19/2014 6:41:17 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Humanae Vitae.

I wish people would read this easy-to-read and understand prophetic document. Pope Paul's argument is based entirely on the natural law, so it's accessible to anyone.

4 posted on 09/19/2014 6:44:40 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: marshmallow

Ya gotta watch anything coming from the Tablet. The guy who took over a number of years ago is not an orthodox Catholic.


5 posted on 09/19/2014 6:45:38 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: marshmallow

The Pope is promoting interfaith soccer that includes Muzzies, Hindus, Buddhist, et al.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3197983/posts

and marrying people who have been married before and couples who have been living together “in sin.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3203981/posts

Now he is on the way to rolling back another tenant of Catholic life. Is there anything he won’t do to make Catholicism more relevant and worldly?

Place you bets on what else he’ll be undoing.

How do you Catholics feel about these changes?


6 posted on 09/19/2014 6:46:36 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: marshmallow

Well I can think of one Cardinal that needs a kick to the curb.


7 posted on 09/19/2014 6:48:29 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Humanae Vitae: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae_en.html


8 posted on 09/19/2014 6:49:19 PM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: marshmallow
When the Roman Catholic Church accommodates to the death-merchants, I leave the Roman Catholic Church - or, more accurately, the Roman Catholic Church will leave me.

I stand as I and mine have stood - for Life!



"Nemo me impune lacessit!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

9 posted on 09/19/2014 6:51:32 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in Battle!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Pope Francis calls for big changes in Roman Catholic Church
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/26/world/pope-church-reforms/

Pope’s Marriage Celebrations Hint at Coming Changes for Church
http://time.com/3378702/pope-francis-catholic-church-marriage/

First Gay Bishop Gene Robinson Asks Pope Francis to Change Catholic Doctrine Branding Homosexuality a Disorder
http://www.christianpost.com/news/first-gay-bishop-gene-robinson-asks-pope-francis-to-change-catholic-doctrine-branding-homosexuality-a-disorder-116258/

Will the Catholic Church change its stand on marriage and divorce?
http://www.religionnews.com/2014/09/17/will-catholic-church-change-stand-marriage-divorce/

This Pope looks to be the Obama of Catholicism!


10 posted on 09/19/2014 6:56:28 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: marshmallow

No way!


11 posted on 09/19/2014 6:57:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow
Seems we're getting closer to the [Church approved] apparition of Our Lady of Akita:

"As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and priests."

"The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres...churches and altars sacked; the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord." http://www.ewtn.com/library/mary/akita.htm
12 posted on 09/19/2014 6:58:42 PM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

There is no doubt in my mind that contraception conveys the idea that humans determine the beginnings (and endings) of life. It is an arrogation of divinity and that is not able to be handled by humans.

Self-control is a fruit of the Spirit, so to use self-control is to choose a different good as opposed to an artificial acknowledgement that self-control is not possible, which is what contraception also is.


13 posted on 09/19/2014 7:01:53 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: marshmallow

It’s always been up to parents to pace themselves, through usage of times of abstinence, on the spacing of their children, so that they can take reasonable care of them.

My grandmother, born in the 1800s, used to tell a joke about Catholic birth control being “sulfa-denial” or “abistentium” or something like that. (I guess this would be the reason she had 8 kids instead of 12).

The difference here is that with chemical birth control you are taking God’s providence out of the equation.

I like Catholic teaching the way it is. It’s all natural, no hormones, and when a woman says “not now”, it commands (or should command) respect.


14 posted on 09/19/2014 7:07:41 PM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

DITTO!


15 posted on 09/19/2014 7:18:05 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Stand fast PG County brother!
The Church will hold fast.


16 posted on 09/19/2014 7:22:56 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: marshmallow

NOT A CHANCE..... and natural family planning and has no concept of artificiality at all...have sexual relations pretty much all the time, just restrain during the few days that are highly likely to result in conception....that requires true love and a little less lust.


17 posted on 09/19/2014 7:33:13 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

There is only one sentence in Humanae Vitae that needs to be read by all of Christendom.


18 posted on 09/19/2014 7:46:34 PM PDT by blackpacific
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To: mlizzy

Our Lady’s comments about cardinals opposing cardinals has frequently come to mind lately. I saw a clip on ChurchMilitant.tv yesterday where the late Fr. John Hardon commented that the reason God called Judas to be an apostle was to prepare us for apostate bishops! I thought that was very insightful. If one of the original apostles could betray Our Lord, we should not be surprised that some of their successors would, too. And perhaps even the successor of Peter will betray him, too.


19 posted on 09/19/2014 7:48:58 PM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: marshmallow

For those of you who don’t know “the Tablet” is marginally catholic at best, they are VERY left wing. I know of priests who refuse to carry it in their churches.

The REAL Catholic paper in the UK is “The Catholic Herald.”

So the newpaper article is relying on a left-wing very discredited rag as its source.


20 posted on 09/19/2014 7:52:39 PM PDT by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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