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Presbyterian Assembly (PCUSA): Gay Marriage Is Christian (Ministers Can Do Homosexual Weddings)
ABC ^ | Jun 19, 2014 | KAROUB AND RACHEL ZOLL

Posted on 06/19/2014 2:32:45 PM PDT by xzins

The top legislative body of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) voted Thursday to redefine Christian marriage in the church constitution as the union of "two people" instead of only "a man and a woman."

The amendment requires approval from a majority of the 172 regional presbyteries, which will vote on the change over the next year. But in a separate vote that will take effect immediately, the Presbyterian General Assembly allowed ministers to preside at gay weddings in states where gay marriage is legal. Nineteen states and the District of Columbia recognize same-sex marriage.

Alex McNeill, executive director of More Light Presbyterians, a gay advocacy group, said the decisions Thursday were "an answer to many prayers" of same-sex couples.

The conservative Presbyterian Lay Committee decried the votes in Detroit as an "abomination."

"The General Assembly has committed an express repudiation of the Bible, the mutually agreed upon Confessions of the PCUSA, thousands of years of faithfulness to God's clear commands and the denominational ordination vows of each concurring commissioner," the committee said in a statement.

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: calvinism; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homosexual; homosexualagenda; laycommittee; lesbyterian; morelight; paganchurchusa; pcusa; presbyterian; reformation; reformed; religiousleft
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To: jacknhoo; aposiopetic; rbmillerjr; Lowell1775; JPX2011; NKP_Vet; Jed Eckert; ...

Thank you, Lord, for the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic church - the Roman Catholic Church.

Matthew 16:
[15] Jesus saith to them: But whom do you say that I am?

[16] Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God. [17] And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. [18] And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

“Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ “


41 posted on 06/19/2014 5:56:02 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: jacknhoo

I won’t argue with you about it. First, because your church hasn’t yet officially gone this way. You did, though, like me, read about Baltimore and its homosexual supporting bishop. Second, because my denomination hasn’t gone that way yet either, but it has a large number trying hard to do so.

I hope Francis turns out all right.


42 posted on 06/19/2014 5:58:04 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: narses

See #42, narses.


43 posted on 06/19/2014 5:59:08 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins; Chode
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44 posted on 06/19/2014 6:05:58 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: xzins

Ditto.

But Francis is simply the Pope. The Bishop of Rome, yes. The Holy Father to us in the Catholic faith, yes. But NOT Our Lord, rather His Vicar. If Francis chose to act against the Faith, he would be the Apostate. The Church cannot and will not teach error. It is His. As are we.


45 posted on 06/19/2014 6:18:46 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Morgana
two people, i guess a man and a boy or a woman and a girl fit that description then too then
46 posted on 06/19/2014 6:28:34 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: xzins
Mathew16:11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spoke it not to you concerning bread, but that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees?” 12 Then understood they that He bade them not to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. 13 When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?” 14 And they said, “Some say that Thou art John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, “Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but My Father who is in Heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven.”

Pray for them.

47 posted on 06/19/2014 6:37:32 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: xzins

My cousin’s daughter was married in an Episcopal Church a couple of weeks ago. He sent me a short clip of the pastor conducting the ceremony. It was very short and to the point, ending with him saying “I know pronounce you married”. No where during the ceremony did he say I now pronounce you man and wife or husband and wife. Guess that’s what the Episcopal Church did when they stuck their middle finger up to God and started “marrying” sodomites.


48 posted on 06/19/2014 7:05:00 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself")
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To: xzins
This will have effects far beyond the PCUSA. One can't simply shrug one's shoulders here and say "oh well, my church is still standing fast".

Developments like this will effect your Church because they 1) provide a morale boost to the homosexual activists and their fellow travelers and confirm them in their belief that with the right amount of pressure and threats, churches can be coerced to do their bidding, and 2) they provide a propaganda boost by giving them a poster child to whom they can point and say......"see, these guys get it....time for you other, neanderthal churches to get with the program and come into the 21st century".

Obviously, the larger the church, the bigger the propaganda boost. Since PCUSA is the largest of the Presbyterian denominations, this is a major win for the enemy.

49 posted on 06/20/2014 5:59:52 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

In western culture. The USA is attempting to spread that culture but they will be surprised at the resistance.

You have to hypersexualize a culture to get it to advocate unnatural sex. You also have to feminize it.


50 posted on 06/20/2014 6:09:37 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Bibman

Yep. Says the same thing in the King James Bible, Catholic Bible or whichever version you prefer. What’s so hard to understand?


51 posted on 06/20/2014 7:28:19 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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