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Gay Marriage and Homosexuality: What Have Joel Osteen, Billy, TD Jakes and Other...
Breathecast ^ | Apr 29, 2014 | Jeannie Law

Posted on 05/03/2014 4:29:17 PM PDT by Gamecock

Full title of this poorly written article: Gay Marriage and Homosexuality: What Have Joel Osteen, Billy and Franklin Graham, Joyce Meyer, TD Jakes and Other Top Pastors Said on the Subjects

Evangelist, Reverend Franklin Graham recently participated in a news panel discussion in which he answered questions on homosexuality. Some of the world's most popular evangelicals in America have shared a similar biblical position as Graham in past interviews.

Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers, T.D. Jakes and more, like Graham, have openly shared their thoughts on the divisive subject, and they have used their knowledge of scripture to shed a light on what God thinks and how the Bible guides us with regards to sin and homosexuality.

During the ABC segment with Russell Moore, Ralph Reed and Cokie Roberts, last week, Graham was questioned on whether his position on homosexuality remained the same from past interviews.

"Franklin Graham is a sinner," the son of Billy Graham said, "and I'm no better than a gay person. I'm a sinner. But I've been forgiven, and I've turned from my sins. For any person that's willing to repent in turn, God will forgive."

Popular Pastor Joel Osteen, who leads the largest church in America, is known for his motivational messages that are well loved in the LGBT community. The Pastor has been known to tread lightly on the subject in former interviews, but ultimately when pushed on the topic he agrees with Graham.

"I believe that scripture says that it's a sin but I always follow that up by saying you know what, we're not against anybody," Osteen said to Larry King. "There's a lot of things Larry that I don't understand - so I just don't want to preach on it, preach about it."

In another interview he told Piers Morgan, "I'm not against anything." In that same segment he and his wife Victoria said that they would attend a homosexual marriage.

In another instance, Oprah questioned Megachurch pastor T.D. Jakes on the matter and he said, "I'm not called to give my opinion. I'm called as a pastor to give the scriptural position on it."

The pastor added, "Doesn't mean that I have to agree with you to love you. I don't dislike anybody. I love everybody."

When asked if being gay is a sin he replied, "I think that sex between two people of the same sex is condemned in the Scriptures, and as long as it is condemned in the Scriptures, I don't get to say what I think. I get to say what the Bible says," Jakes said. "I'm not anti-gay, I'm not anti-anything. I don't want to even be known by what I'm against."

You can hear Jakes' response 24 minutes into the video below:

In 2005 beloved charismatic author and speaker Joyce Meyer told Larry King on his program that she thinks it's "a choice."

"Obviously, Larry, if I believe the Bible, then I don't believe that a gay lifestyle or a homosexual lifestyle is the right way to choose to live. I believe that there's something so much better," she said. "I believe it's definitely a choice. Well, I think that that's the natural way that God intended us to be. I just followed the natural way that I was. I didn't have to consciously think, do I want to do this or don't I?"

Best-selling author and Pastor Rick Warren explained on Piers Morgan, while he may disagree with people on their views on sexuality, he does not have the right to demean, to demoralize, or defame anyone and turn them into a demon.

Warren though, does not believe that the Bible definition of marriage as between a man and a woman should be changed. He added, "I don't think other groups get the opportunity to redefine a term. I fear the disapproval of God more than I fear your disapproval or the disapproval of society."

Colorado evangelical pastor Ted Haggard, was involved in a same-sex and drug scandal six years ago. During an online debate in 2012 the controversial Pastor said, "If someone is dealing with same-sex attraction or homosexuality, and they want someone to be their life partner of the same gender, though we would oppose that in our churches, it should be allowed by the state."

Despite all he'd been through and experienced himself, Haggard maintained that God intended marriage to be between a man and a woman, but he believes the roles of the state and religious communities are different.

Respected and world-renowned evangelist, Pastor Billy Graham, father of Franklin Graham, previously issued a statement regarding the Marriage Protection Amendment in Minnesota affirming that he is for the original definition of marriage. "I pray that the good people of Minnesota will show their support for God's definition of marriage, between a man and a woman. I wholeheartedly endorse the Marriage Protection Amendment," the statement read. "Watching the moral decline of our country causes me great concern, I believe the home and marriage is the foundation of our society and must be protected."

This is what the pastors had to say about gay marriage and scripture, now what do you think about it in accordance with what the Bible teaches?


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; megachurch; pastors; redemption; sin; ybpdln
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1 posted on 05/03/2014 4:29:17 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

“I believe that scripture says that it’s a sin but I always follow that up by saying you know what, we’re not against anybody,” Osteen said to Larry King. “There’s a lot of things Larry that I don’t understand - so I just don’t want to preach on it, preach about it.”

In another interview he told Piers Morgan, “I’m not against anything.” In that same segment he and his wife Victoria said that they would attend a homosexual marriage.
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So he’s for gay marriage.


2 posted on 05/03/2014 4:36:01 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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3 posted on 05/03/2014 4:37:55 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Gamecock

“We’re not against anybody,” Osteen said to Larry King. “Because everybody has cash with which to buy the hope and prosperity that I’m selling.”

“Does that mean you’ll take contributions from gays?” King asked.

“Of course, I will, Larry. God tells us not to discriminate.”


4 posted on 05/03/2014 4:46:22 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Gamecock

“I’m not against anything.”

that’s an awfully loaded response....

one could extrapolate just about ANYTHING from it.

he doesn’t appear to be clear on the Bible’s teaching about homosexuality.


5 posted on 05/03/2014 4:48:44 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: MeshugeMikey
But in Joels defense he an Vicky would attend a gay wedding! </sarc>
6 posted on 05/03/2014 4:52:50 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Gamecock

Jakes I know to be a “blab it and grab it” guy. his other dotrine I know little about.

Osteen...ive heard plenty from...


7 posted on 05/03/2014 4:57:26 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Gamecock

Interviews where a pastor simply quotes Messiah with ‘It is written’ and then further quotes His Torah wouldn’t be very good TV...

Probably bad for book sales too..


8 posted on 05/03/2014 4:59:22 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Gamecock

and if the gov’t—under the direction of the gay lobby— takes your or your flock’s money and uses it to pay for abortion or establish homosexual marriage, or the church of athieism, then what esteemed pastor?


9 posted on 05/03/2014 5:12:48 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: MeshugeMikey

Jakes is a heretic.

Why?

Denies the classic doctrine of the Trinity


10 posted on 05/03/2014 5:15:34 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Gamecock

that too! yes most assuredly..

“when yo check clears the bank you WEEL get yo Miracle”


11 posted on 05/03/2014 5:16:56 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Gamecock; Vision
In another interview (Osteen) he told Piers Morgan, “I’m not against anything.” In that same segment he and his wife Victoria said that they would attend a homosexual marriage.

How dare you express dissent to the great Joel Osteen. BLASTPHAMY. Vision and the all powerful religious mods forbid it. When it comes to the blessed Osteen, you have no 1st amendment rights.

12 posted on 05/03/2014 5:50:04 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: Gamecock

Way to shirk your responsibility as a “pastor”, Osteen.


13 posted on 05/03/2014 6:09:56 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Gamecock

They’re waffling.

They don’t want to *offend* anyone and so are on the road to compromise.

It won’t be long before they’re outright approving it.

What a bunch of wusses. Whatever happened to men of God who took strong stands against sin and FOR God and godliness?


14 posted on 05/03/2014 6:37:11 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Gamecock

He’s not against anything???

Satan must be glad to hear it


15 posted on 05/03/2014 6:37:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Gamecock

In a sane world the likes of Joel Osteen (of Prosperity Gospel fame) etc would be wearing prison clothes. These folks mentioned in the article is what the curse of Protestantism has wrought. Each person a “church” unto himself or herself. Why not canvass the views of Rev. Jeremiah Wright? Rev. Schuller? Rev. Al Sharpton? Rev. Jesse Jackson? Rev. Moon? and wait, the Lutherans, Anglicans, First Baptist; Second Baptist; Third Baptist church leaders?


16 posted on 05/03/2014 7:29:35 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

But of course the RCC have this figured out.The gay cardinal mafia in the vatican and all the priests buggering alter boys is so much better right?


17 posted on 05/03/2014 8:09:44 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: Craftmore

Sinners we are all. Go cast the first stone?


18 posted on 05/03/2014 8:25:58 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Gamecock

All the soft-peddling responses made me physically ill. “Not against anybody” - give me a break. Then you are a horrible “minister” of the gospel.


19 posted on 05/03/2014 9:03:32 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Jakes is nearly as heretical as Osteen. He’s the head of his own personality cult.


20 posted on 05/03/2014 9:05:11 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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