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Pope's Way of the Cross to highlight economic crisis, unemployment and refugees
Rome Reports ^ | 4-15-2014

Posted on 04/15/2014 5:36:43 PM PDT by ebb tide

The list is rather long: refugees and immigrants, those affected by violence, the economic crisis, unemployment, exploitation. They're just a few of topics the Pope will reflect on during the Way of the Cross on Good Friday, at Rome's Colosseum.

The author of the meditations is the archbishop of Campobasso-Boiano, Giancarlo Bregantini. For the 14 meditations along the procession, the archbishop sought to highlight some of gravest sins and injustices that humanity carries out in the 21st Century.

This list also includes topics like torture, or a justice system "drowning in a sea of bureaucracy.” But Archbishop Bregantini also addressed problems closer to home, like the suffering of children who died from cancer, caused by the disposal of toxic waste.


TOPICS: Catholic; Prayer; Religion & Politics; Worship
KEYWORDS: francis; goodfriday; politicking
Policticking on Good Friday, the most solemn day of the liturgical year: shameful.
1 posted on 04/15/2014 5:36:43 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Please show me where Christ opined about layoffs, unemployment and the GDP.


2 posted on 04/15/2014 5:37:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: ebb tide

Social “justice” without justice


3 posted on 04/15/2014 5:59:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ebb tide
The list is rather long: refugees and immigrants, those affected by violence, the economic crisis, unemployment, exploitation. They're just a few of topics the Pope will reflect on during the Way of the Cross on Good Friday, at Rome's Colosseum. The author of the meditations is the archbishop of Campobasso-Boiano, Giancarlo Bregantini. For the 14 meditations along the procession, the archbishop sought to highlight some of gravest sins and injustices that humanity carries out in the 21st Century.

"Why so socialist?"

4 posted on 04/15/2014 6:00:35 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Please show me where Christ opined about layoffs, unemployment and the GDP.

Try and find a church today that sticks to the words of Christ and His apostles and inspired writers, and leaves their own opinions out.

It ain't easy to find one.
5 posted on 04/15/2014 6:21:58 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

Belief and Practice
http://www.lcms.org/belief-and-practice


6 posted on 04/15/2014 6:25:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I am of Paul, and I of Apollos, and I of Cephas, and I of Christ...”

Are you of Luther?


7 posted on 04/15/2014 6:33:39 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

Insofar as he is correct. You do know that Paul never met Jesus here on Earth, right? He is NOT one of the apostles.


8 posted on 04/15/2014 6:43:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He claimed otherwise - in the opening address of every letter from him in the Bible. The first two chapters of Galatians are a defense of his apostleship.

Was he a liar?


9 posted on 04/15/2014 6:47:28 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

Are you claiming infallibility for Paul?


10 posted on 04/15/2014 6:49:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paul claimed he was an apostle, and that his gospel came from Christ. So again, was he a liar? Is that what those of Luther believe?


11 posted on 04/15/2014 6:53:58 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; LearsFool

>>“When Luther propounded his heretical and immoral doctrine, the sky became as it were obscured by smoke. It spread very rapidly over some regions of the earth, and it brought forth princes and kings who were eager to despoil the Church of her possessions. They compelled the people of their domains and in the territories robbed from the Church to accept the doctrines of Luther. The proponents of Protestantism made false translations of the Bible and misled the people into their errors by apparently proving from the ‘Bible’ (their own translations) the correctness of their doctrines. It was all deceit, lying and hypocrisy. Bad and weak, lax and lukewarm, indifferent and non-practicing Catholics and those who had neglected to get thorough instruction were thus misled; and these, seeing the Catholic Church now through this smoke of error from the abyss and beholding a distorted caricature of the true Church, began both to fear and hate her.”[3]<<

http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/5ae7de14f0fb304f7bb78d6243389368-91.html


12 posted on 04/15/2014 7:09:00 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: LearsFool

I’m not going to argue theology with you. That’s not my purpose here.


13 posted on 04/15/2014 7:13:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: ebb tide; 2ndDivisionVet

Luther got us started in the right direction, and we could raise a sort of Ebenezer upon his work. I imagine, though, that if he could see a church named after him, he would echo Paul’s condemnation of following men.

We are today so blessed to have ready access to the Scriptures. When we have before us the words of Jesus and His apostles and inspired writers, what excuse remains for being led astray by the opinions of men? Isn’t this the revolutionary argument Luther made?


14 posted on 04/15/2014 7:18:31 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I told you it wasn't easy. :-)
15 posted on 04/15/2014 7:19:51 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool; 2ndDivisionVet
Luther got us started in the right direction, ...

Who is "us", Lutherans, in particular, or Protestansts as a whole?

16 posted on 04/15/2014 7:27:28 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jesus knocked Saul to the ground on tbe road to Damascus. I belive that qualifies as meeting Jusus on this rock we call Earth.


17 posted on 04/15/2014 7:34:18 PM PDT by Gamecock (If the cross is not foolishness to the lost world then we have misrepresented the cross." S.L.)
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To: Gamecock

Many people have “met” Jesus since He returned to His Father. Are you saying they all met Him, too, in the way we understand it? You see what I mean? I know that Peter, Timothy, Mark, John, Lazarus, Mary Magdalene and even Judas Iscariot personally knew Our Lord here on Earth.


18 posted on 04/15/2014 7:38:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: BlatherNaut; piusv; NKP_Vet; Salvation

Ping


19 posted on 04/15/2014 7:48:36 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; LearsFool
Are you claiming infallibility for Paul?

Paul produced scripture, thus making him equal in every way to the Prophets and Apostles (who were also prophets) that came before him, as acknowledged by the Apostle Peter himself, who called his writing scripture, and acknowledged that his wisdom was God given, and therefore infallible:

And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. (2Pe 3:15-16)

The Apostles, when speaking under the inspiration of the holy spirit as in their holy admonitions and teachings, are indeed infallible, and therefore all their writings which God has passed down to us are absolutely the word of God. To doubt this is to destroy the Bible and your faith, assuming you are a Christian.

20 posted on 04/15/2014 7:49:35 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s stick to your comment and the Biblical account, shall we?


21 posted on 04/15/2014 8:08:09 PM PDT by Gamecock (If the cross is not foolishness to the lost world then we have misrepresented the cross." S.L.)
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To: Gamecock

I’m not “sticking” to anything. I don’t come here for theology, but rather politics and the like. If you want to discuss religion, go right ahead. That’s not my purpose here, and I don’t want to argue with someone who clearly has different beliefs. What’d be the point?


22 posted on 04/15/2014 8:20:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This thread is posted in the Religion Forum. If you do not wish to see RF posts, do NOT use the “everything” option on the Free Republic browse option list. Instead, browse by “News/Activism.” When you log back in, the browse will reset to “everything” - so be sure to set it back to “News/Activism.”


23 posted on 04/15/2014 8:29:55 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

I didn’t say I didn’t want to see everything, rather I didn’t want to fight over whether Saul of Tarsus was infallible or not. Am I not allowed to have an opinion on a religious thread without it becoming a flame war over one personage? Are you asking me to stay off of such threads?


24 posted on 04/15/2014 8:39:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don’t come here for theology, but rather politics and the like. If you want to discuss religion, go right ahead. That’s not my purpose here, and I don’t want to argue with someone who clearly has different beliefs. What’d be the point?

To persuade someone to change their mind. I'm assuming that's why you come to discuss politics and the like.

25 posted on 04/15/2014 8:43:21 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To doubt something so basic as the Apostolic bonafides of Paul, which is testified by Paul himself, his way of life, the power of his writings, and the other Apostles, makes me doubt your entire salvation. It is very important that you repent of such heresy, lest something worse come upon you, since you are, basically, causing damage to portions of the word of God for those who hear you and do not know any better, not to mention all the damage you are doing to yourself by doubting the authenticity of large portions of the scripture.


26 posted on 04/15/2014 8:45:00 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In your previous post you said "I don’t come here for theology" and theology is the main subject on Religion Forum threads.

You are welcome to post on the Religion Forum - do understand that theology, religious authorities, deities, etc. will be discussed, flamed or even ridiculed on "open" RF threads.

27 posted on 04/15/2014 8:46:36 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Alex Murphy
Not really. I assume that most here are already fairly conservative or they wouldn't be at such a site. Plus, one’s personal spiritual beliefs are much more tightly held than political ideology, in my experience. I'm not going to convince a committed Catholic that Luther and Protestantism are right.
28 posted on 04/15/2014 8:48:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Religion Moderator

My original post here:

Please show me where Christ opined about layoffs, unemployment and the GDP.

It had zero to do with Paul.


29 posted on 04/15/2014 8:50:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Well, Rabbi, that’s not your job, is it? We live in a country with a First Amendment in the Bill of Rights and my beliefs (or lack of them) are my business, not yours. Right?


30 posted on 04/15/2014 8:53:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, Rabbi, that’s not your job, is it? We live in a country with a First Amendment in the Bill of Rights and my beliefs (or lack of them) are my business, not yours. Right?

It is most certainly my job to tell you if your house is burning down. What is the great commission for then? Don't be offended that I tell you that your foot may slip and you will fall into the ditch. Be offended that you may be in fatal error, and rectify your error.

Can you tell me why you aren't responding to the fact that Paul called himself an Apostle, that he was acknowledged by the other Apostles, and his writing was called scripture by the apostles? It is a fact that the Apostle Paul is, in fact, an Apostle. This cannot be denied. It is proven. It is established. It is a historical fact of 2000 years of Christianity and of the whole scripture, with facts like a steel wall that you cannot break. So, what's the problem?

31 posted on 04/15/2014 9:04:07 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: ebb tide

Ah, notice the “gravest sins” included ... and not included.


32 posted on 04/16/2014 2:37:02 AM PDT by piusv
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To: ebb tide

Oh you haven’t seen this, have you?

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/lutheran-fed-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_2013_dal-conflitto-alla-comunione_en.html


33 posted on 04/16/2014 2:40:44 AM PDT by piusv
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To: ebb tide

The “us” is all who are searching for God’s truth, unfiltered by uninspired men. Luther rightly argued that we ought to go directly to the Scriptures.

It might be hard to believe, but even though Bibles abound, there are many even today who teach things not found in it. The simple and friendly challenge we ought to make frequently to one another - and to ourselves - is: Where is that found in the Scriptures?


34 posted on 04/16/2014 6:19:34 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: ebb tide

Thanks for the ping. Not surprised to hear that his favorite themes were trotted out again on Good Friday.


35 posted on 04/20/2014 6:22:50 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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