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Church to Launch “Because of Him” Easter Initiative {mormons co-opt Easter}
LDS.org ^ | April 10, 2014 | Ryan Morgenegg

Posted on 04/10/2014 2:17:13 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: .45 Long Colt
Perhaps this would be a good time for you to take your links and ideas and start a new thread with them rather than try to discuss them on this thread.
21 posted on 04/10/2014 4:20:15 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (We can thank Mitt Romney for the present situation in our country. His feet are made of clay.)
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To: JoeProBono

Looks like one of those German flak towers from WWII.


22 posted on 04/10/2014 4:43:27 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: greyfoxx39
The mormon church historically has mainly ignored the recognition of Easter

False. As long as I've been alive the LDS Church has had an Easter program on Easter. I'm fairly certain that has been the case before I was born too...

, and has not had Good Friday services

No we don't have services on Good Friday, but we do recognize Good Friday.

nor an Easter service unless Easter happened to fall on Sunday.

False again. Always have Easter service, and Easter is always on Sunday....

23 posted on 04/10/2014 5:42:49 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Domandred

My Fathers family have been LDS for 175 years they have always Celebrated Easter on Sunday.


24 posted on 04/10/2014 6:00:02 PM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: Domandred
False. As long as I've been alive the LDS Church has had an Easter program on Easter. I'm fairly certain that has been the case before I was born too...

That has NOT been my experience as a mormon. The following is more along the line of "mormon Easter" in my experience.

"So Mormons technically celebrate Easter, but we don’t really celebrate at church. We do it at home. We hold Easter Egg hunts and consume lots of Easter candy. Some families talk about the resurrection, but some don’t make a big deal about it. I have tried to remind my children that Easter is celebrated in commemoration of Christ’s resurrection, so they know that. But I think they were more excited about the Easter Egg Hunt held at Worthen Park in St. George than remembering the resurrection."

"I will clarify that Mormons celebrate Easter with family, but we generally don’t hold special worship services. We believe that Jesus died on the cross, rose on the 3rd day, and we believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus. However, for some reason, our church seems to eschew large celebrations or special worship services in celebration of all holidays, including Easter and Christmas. (In fact, I would go so far to say that Pioneer Day on July 24th has larger celebrations than either Easter or Christmas, at least in Utah. Pioneer Day is not a big deal outside of Utah.) The church seems to like to keep these Easter and Christmas celebrations low-key, and seems to prefer that families do their own thing for Easter and Christmas celebrations."

Good Friday, Easter, and Mormons

25 posted on 04/10/2014 6:07:24 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (We can thank Mitt Romney for the present situation in our country. His feet are made of clay.)
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To: greyfoxx39

“Containing no speaking, the video uses text, music, and visuals to help viewers become believers.”

What the???


26 posted on 04/10/2014 6:10:02 PM PDT by Morgana (Wagglebee please come home we miss you!)
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To: greyfoxx39

I went to Sunday Easter services at a mormon church one time. No change in program from when I went to a regular mormon service several years before.

The difference is, when everyone broke up for class after the service, all they talked about was when Jesus would return and they all go to Jackson County MO.


27 posted on 04/10/2014 6:21:16 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Church of God 7th Day or Armstrongist? Fringe beliefs, way fringe.


28 posted on 04/10/2014 6:23:44 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

There is a MO sniper picking off cars on the freeways, so maybe they should be patient until it’s safer.

I plan to go to heaven, and it darn sure isn’t in MO. Of course, the Mormons could be talking about the 1000 year reign after Jesus comes back.... I don’t think I want to spend it in MO though, do you?


29 posted on 04/10/2014 6:29:15 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Morgana
What the???

As I said this is nothing but a ShamWow ad for the mormon church. The emphasis is on trolling for members, and not on veneration of the Savior.

30 posted on 04/10/2014 6:31:47 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (We can thank Mitt Romney for the present situation in our country. His feet are made of clay.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I agree.


31 posted on 04/10/2014 6:41:49 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (We can thank Mitt Romney for the present situation in our country. His feet are made of clay.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I’m a traditional Baptist in the mode of John Gill, James P. Boyce and Charles Spurgeon, a doctrines of grace believing Southern Baptist.

Speaking of Spurgeon, here is what he had to say on the matter:

There is no ordinance in Scripture of any one Lord’s-day in the year being set apart to commemorate the rising of Christ from the dead, for this reason, that every Lord’s-day is the memorial of our Lord’s resurrection. Wake up any Lord’s-day you please, whether in the depth of winter, or in the warmth of summer, and you may sing
“To day he rose and left the dead, And Satan’s empire fell; To day the saints his triumph spread, And all his wonders tell.”

To set apart an Easter Sunday for special memory of the resurrection is a human device, for which there is no Scriptural command, but to make every Lord’s-day an Easter Sunday is due to him who rose early on the first day of the week.

–C. H. Spurgeon, MTP #1530


32 posted on 04/10/2014 7:16:47 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: greyfoxx39
Beginning Palm Sunday, April 13, 2014, and running through Easter, April 20, the Church is launching an Easter initiative called “Because of Him,” focusing on the hope, healing, and salvation made possible through the Atonement of Jesus Christ.

Sure SOUNDS good; but just what does MormonISM consider to actually BE 'the atonement'?

33 posted on 04/10/2014 7:26:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
The organizing of just any church may or may not be an important event, for many dozens of churches have made their appearance in the United States over the last century and a half, but the reestablishment and formal organization of God’s true church upon the earth is a happening of such vital significance and vast meaning that it should excite the interest of every human being in this day and time.


Oh; it's ORGANIZED alright!!




Corporation of the President

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

STATE OF UTAH

COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

I, the undersigned, having been duly chosen and appointed President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in conformity with the rites, regulations and discipline of said Church, being desirous of forming a corporation for the purpose of acquiring, holding and disposing of Church or religious society property, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship, under and pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 3, Title 19, of the Compiled Laws of Utah, 1917, on "Churches and Religious Societies," and all acts amendatory thereof and supplementary thereto, for that purpose do hereby make and subscribe, in duplicate, the following

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION

First: The name of this corporation shall be the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

Second: The object of this corporation shall be to acquire, hold and dispose of such real and personal property as may be conveyed to or acquired by said corporation for the benefit of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a religious society, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship. Such real and personal property may be situated, either within the State of Utah, or elsewhere, and this corporation shall have power, without any authority or authorization from the members of said Church or religious society, to grant, sell, convey, rent, mortgage, exchange, or otherwise dispose of any part or all of such property.

Third: The estimated value of the property of which I hold the legal title for the purpose aforesaid, at the time of making these Articles of Incorporation, is One Million, Five Hundred Thousand Dollars.

Fourth: The title of the person making these Articles of Incorporation is "PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS."

Fifth: The corporation seal shall contain the words, "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," and an impression thereof is hereto affixed.

[Seal] [Signed] Heber J. Grant
President of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints.

STATE OF UTAH
SS:
COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

On this 26th day of November, 1923, before me, Arthur Winter, a Notary Public in and for said County, personally appeared HEBER J. GRANT, who is known to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to the foregoing instrument as President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and duly acknowledged to me that he executed the same as such President.

[Seal] [Signed] Arthur Winter
Notary Public
Residing at Salt Lake City, Utah.
My commission expires Dec. 1, 1923.


AMENDMENT TO

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

 

 

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
STATE OF UTAH ss.
COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

HEBER J. GRANT, being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

That he is now and for more than twenty years last past has been the duly chosen and appointed President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and as such President has been since on or about the 26th day of November, 1923, and now is, the legally constituted Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter=day Saints, a corporation sole; that under and pursuant to Section 18-7-5 R.S.U. 1933 he hereby amends Article "Fourth" of said Articles of Incorporation as now of record in the proper offices of this and other states, said article as amended to read as follows:

ARTICLE FOURTH

Fourth: The title of the person making these articles of incorporation is "President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." He and his successor in office shall be deemed and are hereby created a body politic and corporation sole with perpetual succession, having all the powers and rights and authority in these articles specified or provided for by law. But in the event of death or resignation from office of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or in the event of a vacancy in that office from any cause, the President or Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of said Church, or one of the members of said Quorum thereunto designated by that Quorum, shall, pending the installation of a successor President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, be the corporation sole under these articles, and the laws pursuant to which they are made, and shall be and is authorized in his official capacity to execute in the name of the corporation all documents or other writings necessary to the carrying on of its purposes, business and objects, and to do all things in the name of the corporation which the original signer of the articles of incorporation might do; it being the purpose of these articles that there shall be no failure in succession in the office of such corporation sole.

[Signed] Heber J. Grant
President of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints,
corporation sole.
[Seal]

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 18 day of June, 1940.
[the name of Notary Public not shown on copy of amendment]

(Original in State of Utah Archives, Salt Lake City, Utah)


ARTICLES OF AMENDMENT
TO THE

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.


A UTAH CORPORATION SOLE

Pursuant to the provisions of Section 16-7-5 of the Utah Code Annotated 1953 (as amended) relating to amendments of articles of incorporation of corporations sole, the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole, does hereby amend its Articles of Incorporation by adding an additional Paragraph V thereto as follows:

Upon the winding up and dissolution of this corporation, after paying or adequately providing for the debts and obligations of the corporation, the remaining assets shall be distributed to a nonprofit fund, foundation or corporation, which is organized and operated exclusively for charitable, educational, or religious and/or scientific purposes and which has established its tax-exempt status under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned has caused these presents to be executed this 19th day of November, 1973.

CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE
CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY
SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole

By: [signed] Harold B. Lee
Harold B. Lee, Corporation Sole

STATE OF UTAH ) ss:
County of Salt Lake )

HAROLD B. LEE, being first duly sworn, deposes and says: That he is now and ever since July 7, 1972, has been the duly chosen and appointed President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and, as such president, is now and ever since said date has been the legally constituted CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole; that the original Articles of Incorporation of said Corporation Sole were executed by Heber J. Grant, President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints; that he, Harold B. Lee, is the successor in office to the said Heber J. Grant; that he, Harold B. Lee, executed the foregoing Articles of Amendment as said Corporation Sole.

[signed] Harold B. Lee

SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN to before me this 19th day of November, 1973.

[signed] Wilford W Kirton, Jr
NOTARY PUBLIC
Residing at Salt Lake City, Utah
My commission expires:
2-3-77


Articles of Incorporation as amended:

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION

First: The name of this corporation shall be the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

Second: The object of this corporation shall be to acquire, hold and dispose of such real and personal property as may be conveyed to or acquired by said corporation for the benefit of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a religious society, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship. Such real and personal property may be situated, either within the State of Utah, or elsewhere, and this corporation shall have power, without any authority or authorization from the members of said Church or religious society, to grant, sell, convey, rent, mortgage, exchange, or otherwise dispose of any part or all of such property.

Third: The estimated value of the property of which I hold the legal title for the purpose aforesaid, at the time of making these Articles of Incorporation, is One Million, Five Hundred Thousand Dollars.

Fourth: The title of the person making these articles of incorporation is "President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." He and his successor in office shall be deemed and are hereby created a body politic and corporation sole with perpetual succession, having all the powers and rights and authority in these articles specified or provided for by law. But in the event of death or resignation from office of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or in the event of a vacancy in that office from any cause, the President or Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of said Church, or one of the members of said Quorum thereunto designated by that Quorum, shall, pending the installation of a successor President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, be the corporation sole under these articles, and the laws pursuant to which they are made, and shall be and is authorized in his official capacity to execute in the name of the corporation all documents or other writings necessary to the carrying on of its purposes, business and objects, and to do all things in the name of the corporation which the original signer of the articles of incorporation might do; it being the purpose of these articles that there shall be no failure in succession in the office of such corporation sole.

Fifth: Upon the winding up and dissolution of this corporation, after paying or adequately providing for the debts and obligations of the corporation, the remaining assets shall be distributed to a nonprofit fund, foundation or corporation, which is organized and operated exclusively for charitable, educational, or religious and/or scientific purposes and which has established its tex-exempt status under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.

Sixth: The corporate seal shall contain the words, "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," and an impression thereof is hereto affixed.

34 posted on 04/10/2014 7:29:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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...has not had Good Friday services nor an Easter service unless Easter happened to fall on Sunday.

Huh??

35 posted on 04/10/2014 7:30:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: livius
The better ones really want to be Evangelical Christians, but most Mormons probably never give it a thought, although they are told during their missionary year that they should cover up the Mormon specific aspect and just present it as Protestantism when they’re trying to make converts.


 
 
Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

 
 
Timeline...    Subject...
 
0:59           "Anti-Mormons..."
1:16           "ATTACK the faith you have..."
2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."


36 posted on 04/10/2014 7:34:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39

Thanks, but I posted where I wanted to. I don’t want to debate the matter. Rather than getting upset about what the Mormons are doing regarding Easter, I merely want to urge true born-again Christians interested in biblical fidelity to stop and compare their traditions to the Word of God. In other words, I encourage all to be Bereans (Acts 17). How many who celebrate Easter have ever stopped to search the Bible to see what it has to say about celebrating holy days? In generations past, Protestants in this country overwhelmingly rejected Christmas and Easter. I suspect most today don’t know that and they certainly don’t understand why. Perhaps you aren’t concerned and Christian history doesn’t interest you. If that’s the case, my comment and the links I posted are not for you. The Lord will use them to influence whomever He sees fit.


37 posted on 04/10/2014 7:34:34 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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livius

I just read your homepage, and your name is just fine. It sounds elegant!

38 posted on 04/10/2014 7:35:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Morgana
“Containing no speaking, the video uses text, music, and visuals to help viewers become believers.” in Mormonism.
39 posted on 04/10/2014 7:38:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Morgana
Once the VISUAL burns into your brain, it'll be hard for the truth of the TEXT to uproot it.


For instance, we'll all heard how JS found the plates and translated them into English; right?

It can be found easily by going to just about any Mormon website. There will be a link to the Beginning.

Now what you'll read from the PR department in Salt Lake City, Utah, is a bunch of MILK about Mormonism.

To get 'the REST of the story' (as Paul Harvey was wont to say) requires a bit of effort on your part; for Mormonism apparently doesn't want people to read other FACTS surrounding their version of the 'truth'.


Restofthestory follows...




"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."
---Joseph Knight's journal.


"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.
(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),
"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.

"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,
as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,
and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.

In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:

"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."


"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"
reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881
in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)

In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:
 
 "When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,
Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12
June 15, 1879,  pp. 190-91.)


Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:
 
"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"
("A New Witness for Christ in America,"
Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)


"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."
---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.




40 posted on 04/10/2014 7:53:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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