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Andrew Cuomo, the Catholic Anti-Catholic
The Catholic Thing ^ | April 9, 2014 | George J. Marlin

Posted on 04/09/2014 2:59:05 PM PDT by NYer

When Andrew Cuomo was running for governor in 2010, he claimed time and again that he wanted to represent and fight for all the people of New York – all, that is, except Catholics.

Since taking office in 2011, Cuomo, who was baptized a Catholic, graduated from Archbishop Molloy H.S. in Queens County and Fordham University, has been hell-bent on offending Catholics and dismissing their beliefs in the public square.

Cuomo’s first assault was on Catholic teaching that marriage is between a man and a woman. He was embarrassed that his state had been “surpassed by many other countries which have legalized same-sex marriage including the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Canada, South Africa, Norway, Sweden and Portugal; as well as by many states.”  “Marriage equality,” he declared, “is a question of principle and the state shouldn’t discriminate against same-sex couples who wish to get married.”  He promised to “fight to make sure all couples have equal marriage rights under the law.”

To impose his will on practicing Catholics, Jews, and Muslims, Cuomo ruthlessly used the powers of his office.  He bought off several wavering Republican State Senators – sadly, all baptized Catholics – with promises of appointments if voters should turn them out of office. 

Worse yet, Cuomo bought off the GOP Senate leader Dean Skelos, who had promised NY Cardinal Timothy Dolan that he would never permit the same-sex marriage bill to make it to the floor of the upper legislative chamber.

For a few political crumbs from Cuomo’s table, Skelos broke his word and permitted a roll call, knowing it would pass.  Skelos’ rationale that the days of bottling up bills are over was absurd.  Every year, at least 90 percent of all legislation introduced is bottled up and dies in committee by design.

Cuomo’s next move was proposing legislation expanding abortion rights.  In his 2013 State of the State Address, he pandered to the radical pro-abortion lobby by screaming at the top of his lungs four times, “It’s her body; it’s her choice!”

New York, the abortion capital of America – 37.6 percent abortions per 1,000 pregnancies versus 19.6% nationally – has had the nation’s most liberal statute on the books since 1970.  If Roe v. Wade were suddenly overturned, it would have no impact on the state.

Andrew Cuomo

Fortunately, Cuomo’s plan to codify abortion as a “fundamental right of privacy” – a classification even the U.S. Supreme Court has rejected – is still stalled in the state legislature thanks to the Catholic Conference and other pro-life groups.  But Cuomo continues to press for passage and will not give up until he gets his way.

Then, there was Cuomo’s comment in January that Catholics and others are unfit citizens and no longer welcome in the Empire State:

Who are they?  Are they these extreme conservatives who are right to life, pro-assault weapons, anti-gay?  Is that who they are?  Because if that’s who they are and they’re the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are.

Cardinal Dolan spoke for millions of N.Y. Catholics who oppose abortion and same-sex marriage when he said the governor’s remarks were “unfortunate at best; inflammatory and outrageous at worst.”

With Cuomo in mind, Dolan insisted “The extremists are really on the other side.  The extremists are those who want to radically expand abortion, are not happy with the things as they are, resist the constitutionally legal restraints that have been reasonably placed upon abortion.”

Cuomo’s latest shot has been at the financially troubled Catholic school system.  For years proponents of parochial and private schools have pushed for passage of the Education Investment Tax Credit which would permit “individuals, with certain well-defined limits, to donate money for education and receive a tax credit for doing so.”

It is believed that such a credit would encourage more donations to help eliminate the operating deficits of Catholic schools, which educate 215,000 children throughout the state.

This year there was optimism that the bill, which had the support of trade union and business leaders, would finally be part of the 2014-15 state budget.  In fact, Cardinal Dolan was promised it was a done deal.

However, when Albany’s smoke-filled rooms were cleared on Sunday, March 31, the governor, who has huge executive authority over the budget process, permitted the provision to be dropped.

A disappointed Cardinal Dolan said he was “frustrated – and to be honest, angry – when the children in our Catholic schools are treated like second-class citizens again and again.”

For the life of me, I cannot understand why Andrew Cuomo thinks nothing of poking Dolan in the eye every chance he gets.  Unlike his father, Mario, who tried to rationalize his mistaken theological and moral stances in Catholic forums, Andrew appears not to care about Church teachings and what his co-religionists believe.

Granted, Cuomo knows the Catholic vote is not the monolithic vote it used to be.  Nevertheless, there are still 7.3 million Catholics in New York – 38 percent of the state’s population.  And in New York’s depressed rust belt cities, working class Catholics, who have not fled to states that offer job opportunities, tend to be older ones who subscribe to traditional Judeo-Christian principles, live them in their daily lives, and expect the same of public officials.  Their beliefs mean more than material gain and transcend economic issues.

These angry practicing Catholics can, however, strike back this November at the ballot box.  By coming out in full force and casting their votes for Cuomo’s pro-life opponent, Rob Astorino, they can send a strong message, upset Cuomo’s plan to run up a huge margin of victory, and dash his hopes to be the second (sort of) Catholic president.



TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: albany; cuomo; dolan; ny

1 posted on 04/09/2014 2:59:05 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...
Interesting timing on this column. Tomorrow, the new bishop for the RC Diocese of Albany, Edward Scharfenberger, will be ordained by Timothy Cardinal Dolan and installed at the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, located at 125 Eagle Street. Adjacent to the cathedral, is the New York State Governor's Mansion.


Governor Cuomo walks from the governor's mansion (seen in the background) to the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (just visible in the foreground).

No doubt, Andrew Cuomo has been invited to attend. With Bishop Hubbard's retirement, it is now Bishop-elect Scharfenberger who will be overseeing the Albany Diocese. Stay tuned!

2 posted on 04/09/2014 2:59:42 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

If Cuomo can be Catholic, then so can Satan.


3 posted on 04/09/2014 3:02:05 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: NYer

Arrogance elitist personified


4 posted on 04/09/2014 3:04:31 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: fwdude

One can call himself anything he wants, does not make it so.


5 posted on 04/09/2014 3:04:36 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Liz; The Mayor; skully

Ping!


6 posted on 04/09/2014 3:04:45 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: tioga
One can call himself anything he wants, does not make it so.

So, is anyone in the Catholic church denying this? Then, perhaps Cuomo has very good reason to think he can claim this designation.

7 posted on 04/09/2014 3:09:42 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
Ha! Nobody said he was a good Catholic.
8 posted on 04/09/2014 3:12:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Faith with love is the faith of Christians; without love, it is the faith of demons." - Ven. Bede)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

So, you CAN be a Catholic and be as evil as possible, then?


9 posted on 04/09/2014 3:13:00 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Satan is Catholic. Insofar as he has perfect angelic knowledge about the Faith. There are no doctrinal disputes between God and Lucifer. Satan knew fully and said no.


10 posted on 04/09/2014 3:14:07 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: fwdude

Anyone who supports abortion and gay marriage is not a Catholic, no matter what they call themselves. The official church teaching on these subjects is perfectly clear.


11 posted on 04/09/2014 3:14:44 PM PDT by tioga
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To: JPX2011
Satan is Catholic.

Uncalled for.

12 posted on 04/09/2014 3:16:43 PM PDT by tioga
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To: NYer

http://www.all.org/article/index/id/MTM1OTA/

Will Cuomo receive Communion with his shack-up?


13 posted on 04/09/2014 3:21:22 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: tioga

But not untrue.


14 posted on 04/09/2014 3:21:30 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: fwdude
"So, you CAN be a Catholic and be as evil as possible, then?"

Obviously. Catholics who do damnable things and do not repent, go to hell. On the same terms as anybody else. You could say they're even more damnable, since "Of those to whom much has been given, much will be required." They'll have no excuse.

15 posted on 04/09/2014 3:21:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Faith with love is the faith of Christians; without love, it is the faith of demons." - Ven. Bede)
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To: JPX2011

Satan has never been baptized. Therefore she is not a Catholic.


16 posted on 04/09/2014 3:22:41 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: fwdude

So, you CAN be a Catholic and be as evil as possible, then?


Free will.

You can be anything you want and choose not to live it.


17 posted on 04/09/2014 3:23:13 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: tioga
Well, he's not a good Catholic. But every baptized person is a Catholic in the sacramental sense. Frightening to think how many of the damned in hell may have professed themselves Christians, and yes, Catholics among them.
18 posted on 04/09/2014 3:24:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Faith with love is the faith of Christians; without love, it is the faith of demons." - Ven. Bede)
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To: Arthur McGowan

She?


19 posted on 04/09/2014 3:24:16 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: NYer

“However, when Albany’s smoke-filled rooms were cleared....”

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I must assume that they were puffing their Mary Jane because tobacco is no longer allowed in public places.


20 posted on 04/09/2014 3:24:51 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: tioga; JPX2011
I think what was meant here, is that Satan knows the Catholic faith, not that Satan holds the Catholic Faith. Satan knows Scripture better than anybody on earth, as he still has a perverse, twisted, but brilliant angelic intelligence. Demons --- as St.John said --- know there is One God, and tremble.
21 posted on 04/09/2014 3:27:31 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Faith with love is the faith of Christians; without love, it is the faith of demons." - Ven. Bede)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Exactly! Thank you. That’s what I meant.


22 posted on 04/09/2014 3:29:18 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: pax_et_bonum

I know a priest who was giving a retreat at a convent/coven. After his first talk, in which he had referred to God as “he,” he was taken aside and told that “we use inclusive language here.” So, in his next talk, when talking about the devil, he said, “...when the devil wishes to deceive us, she...” and so on. After that talk, he was told that “we won’t be continuing with this retreat.”


23 posted on 04/09/2014 3:30:20 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
Granted, Cuomo knows the Catholic vote is not the monolithic vote it used to be. Nevertheless, there are still 7.3 million Catholics in New York – 38 percent of the state’s population. And in New York’s depressed rust belt cities, working class Catholics, who have not fled to states that offer job opportunities, tend to be older ones who subscribe to traditional Judeo-Christian principles, live them in their daily lives, and expect the same of public officials. Their beliefs mean more than material gain and transcend economic issues.

These angry practicing Catholics can, however, strike back this November at the ballot box. By coming out in full force and casting their votes for Cuomo’s pro-life opponent, Rob Astorino, they can send a strong message, upset Cuomo’s plan to run up a huge margin of victory, and dash his hopes to be the second (sort of) Catholic president.

"Will Cuomo receive Communion with his shack-up?"

Gonna be interesting to see how Scharfenberger handles that one.

Albany Bishop Howard Hubbard says it is "unfair and imprudent" to conclude that Gov. Andrew Cuomo and his girlfriend, Sandra Lee, shouldn't receive Communion simply because they're living together.
-- from the thread Bishop: None of your business (Hubbard rejects Catholic expert's criticism of Gov. Cuomo)

24 posted on 04/09/2014 3:32:25 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: pax_et_bonum; Arthur McGowan
She?

Why not? Satan is a fallen angel, pure spirit. Gibson portrayed Satan as androgynous.


25 posted on 04/09/2014 3:37:25 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

His religion is the same that his dad, biden, kennedy and pelosi share -secular humanism....

And they continue the double life because the church they belong to is afraid to lose the wealth and power that these members of their flock wield.. they can see what these types do to their ‘enemies’...

The ‘discipline’ these secular humanists ‘receive’ by the roman catholic church is a lesson in the religious caste system..


26 posted on 04/09/2014 3:43:29 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Arthur McGowan

So, in his next talk, when talking about the devil, he said, “...when the devil wishes to deceive us, she...” and so on. After that talk, he was told that “we won’t be continuing with this retreat.”


Lol! - well, actually I don’t know whether to laugh or cry!


27 posted on 04/09/2014 3:50:31 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: NYer
GOP Senate leader Dean Skelos, who had promised NY Cardinal Timothy Dolan that he would never permit the same-sex marriage bill to make it to the floor of the upper legislative chamber.
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For a few political crumbs from Cuomo’s table, Skelos broke his word and permitted a roll call, knowing it would pass.

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"BRAVO!"


28 posted on 04/09/2014 3:55:23 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: fwdude
So, you CAN be a Catholic and be as evil as possible, then?

Well, yeah. We've saved. We can do anything and still get to heaven.

By faith alone, baby.

29 posted on 04/09/2014 3:57:01 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: NYer; Arthur McGowan

Why not?


I asked because Arthur specified “she” and I wondered why, since angels are spirit.

Also, “she” specifies female whereas the pronoun traditionally used for gender non-specific purposes would be “he”.


30 posted on 04/09/2014 3:58:28 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: NYer
For the life of me, I cannot understand why Andrew Cuomo thinks nothing of poking Dolan in the eye every chance he gets.

One word.......PRIDE!

31 posted on 04/09/2014 4:02:02 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: NYer

“...in New York’s depressed rust belt cities, working class Catholics, who have not fled to states that offer job opportunities, tend to be older ones who subscribe to traditional Judeo-Christian principles, live them in their daily lives, and expect the same of public officials. Their beliefs mean more than material gain and transcend economic issues.”

And yet too many of them - not all, fewer than before - continue to vote Democrat because they always did, and their pappy always did and their pappy’s pappy always did. Like it or not, those are the folks who think Republicans are the rich man’s party, the WASPs who kept Catholics out of prestigious jobs/ schools/ neighborhoods/ clubs not so very long ago. They’ll vote for Andy again.


32 posted on 04/09/2014 4:02:25 PM PDT by EDINVA
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If Cuomo’s new bishop doesn’t ban him from the sacraments, then all he will be good for is to be paving material in Hell.


33 posted on 04/09/2014 4:12:24 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: NYer

**These angry practicing Catholics can, however, strike back this November at the ballot box. By coming out in full force and casting their votes for Cuomo’s pro-life opponent, Rob Astorino, they can send a strong message, upset Cuomo’s plan to run up a huge margin of victory, and dash his hopes to be the second (sort of) Catholic president. **

I certainly hope this happens.


34 posted on 04/09/2014 4:12:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: fwdude

CINO — Catholic in Name Only!


35 posted on 04/09/2014 4:14:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alex Murphy; Arthur McGowan
Gonna be interesting to see how Scharfenberger handles that one.

I don't expect any "showdown" tomorrow at the ordination and installation. That would be imprudent. Quite possibly, we may never know since the bishop is responsible to charitably address these issues in private. Those discussions are not made public.

36 posted on 04/09/2014 4:16:42 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: pax_et_bonum
". . . the pronoun traditionally used for gender non-specific purposes would be “he”."

Traditionally?

I thought that alone would be sufficient reason for some non-Catholic folks to avoid the use of "he".

37 posted on 04/09/2014 4:57:15 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: NYer

Dolan, the disappointing one. This guy has had his butt kicked from one end of New York State to the other. He invited the abortionist Obama to the Al Smith dinner. Andrew Cuomo wipes the streets of New York with him. Yet, Dolan does NOTHING.

I suspect that the Diocese of Albany falls under the umbrella of the Archdiocese of New York. So, what is keeping Dolan from barring Cuomo from Holy Communion at a minimum. Plus, Cuomo likely does not truly reside in the Governor’s Mansion. Very few NY governors have truly resided in Albany. Most had a home in NYC or it suburbs.

Dolan, get off of your butt and do the right thing. As for the new Bishop of Albany, I wish him well and hope he has the guts to enforce Church law.


38 posted on 04/09/2014 5:02:52 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: NYer

Sure they are made public. Senator Dick Durbin’s Bishop recently told him publicly not to receive Holy Communion due to his high active work in support of abortion.


39 posted on 04/09/2014 5:04:56 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: NYer

Cuomo is one of the ugliest human beings on earth.

I heard that at his ‘home’ parish in Mount Kisco, his priest has denied him communion.


40 posted on 04/09/2014 5:58:52 PM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: CdMGuy

Albany is a separate diocese from New York. Dolan has never called Cuomo out for his actions.


41 posted on 04/09/2014 6:01:02 PM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
"I heard that at his ‘home’ parish in Mount Kisco, his priest has denied him communion."

I've heard that, too but couldn't find anything about it to support it. One of these days I may check that out again but since he's still showing up where he is . . .

42 posted on 04/09/2014 6:26:13 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

43 posted on 04/09/2014 7:26:37 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NYer

Good grief, he’s almost as ugly as Weiner. In so many ways.


44 posted on 04/09/2014 7:28:59 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: NYer

“Andy, my doctor put me on a low-fat diet. What’s your BMI?”

45 posted on 04/09/2014 7:34:08 PM PDT by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: NYer

Andrew Cuomo, living proof that some men have sex with monkeys.


46 posted on 04/09/2014 8:21:52 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NYer

Whether Cuomo continues to receive Communion is a public matter. If he receives, it is a grave public scandal, and a mortal sin for any priest or other minister of Communion, and for the bishop.


47 posted on 04/09/2014 9:09:15 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Jeff Chandler

Dolan is a viper. His “Bravo!” was absolutely despicable. There are a thousand touching, merciful things Dolan could have said about a young man “coming out.”


48 posted on 04/09/2014 9:19:38 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: NYer

Actually, it would be perfectly appropriate for the homilist at the Mass to to remind all the pro-abortion politicians, and those who have voted for them, not to come up for Communion.


49 posted on 04/09/2014 9:22:53 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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"...Dolan insisted 'The extremists are really on the other side. The extremists are those who want to radically expand abortion, are not happy with the things as they are, resist the constitutionally legal restraints that have been reasonably placed upon abortion.'"

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The "extremists" are also all those in favor of the horrendously murderous, baby-killing, current status quo, and those "constitutionally legal restraints that have been reasonably placed upon abortion" do not exist -- there are currently no "constitutionally legal restraints that have been reasonably placed upon abortion" -- the only truly reasonable restraints would be those that do not permit any baby murders at all.

Jesus tells Dolan directly, "Whatever you do to the least of these, you do to Me".

Wake up Dolan, resign your lofty position, confess, and spend the rest of your days in obscure solitude, repentence, and genuine conversion.

50 posted on 04/09/2014 10:17:53 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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