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Jeb Bush to meet with Southern Baptist leader
The Washington Post's Post Politics ^ | April 8, 2014 | Robert Costa

Posted on 04/08/2014 10:04:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Former Florida governor Jeb Bush is reaching out to evangelical leaders as he considers a 2016 presidential run, and in early May, he will meet privately with Russell Moore, one of the country’s most prominent Southern Baptists.

Moore, a frequent presence on television and at theological conferences, heads the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, the public policy arm of the Southern Baptist Convention, which has more than 16 million members.

Moore and an aide to Bush have confirmed the session, which will take place at Bush’s office in Miami. Bush, who has played down the idea that he is exploring a campaign, asked Moore to meet with him earlier this year.

“We’ll talk about the concerns of evangelicals,” Moore said in a phone interview. “He is a good man, and I am not surprised there is a lot of conversation about him.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016; baptists; bush; evangelicals; florida; gop; jebbush; rememberterri
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jeb Bush murdered Terri Schiavo. I don’t trust him with MY life, if my life is ever inconvenient to him.


21 posted on 04/08/2014 11:33:06 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Steelfish

It says Southern Baptists, which is easily our most pro-life, conservative voting denomination, in fact the most conservative voting block of any type, and the biggest Christian denomination that is in the pro-life/republican column.


22 posted on 04/08/2014 11:35:28 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Damn it, Jeb is running. What part of the base does the GOPe believe will show up to vote for this retread?


25 posted on 04/08/2014 11:45:54 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: DaxtonBrown

They’ll have Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum and some other “conservatives” running to split the vote. See 2008 and 2012.


26 posted on 04/08/2014 11:54:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: DaxtonBrown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YlmEp3s6lwg


27 posted on 04/08/2014 11:54:59 PM PDT by bigmak007 (They who can't control their own passions, want to passionately control others.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

one big happy family

28 posted on 04/09/2014 12:32:16 AM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stay out da Bushies, Mozilla, and Shamnesty.


29 posted on 04/09/2014 12:38:02 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: balch3

He is a “leader” within the SBC, and Moore is unfit to be in any position of leadership. He is weak and tries to be Mohler’s Minime. “Moderate” elements have taken over the SBC, it is tacking left on sodomites, feminism, environmentalism, “diversity”, amnesty, and just about every other social issue. This is why Land was replaced by Moore (although Land was not a lot better). Oh, yea, but those frauds are “inerrantists”.

No one should give a dime to the SBC. Oh, yes, and the cooperative program is ineffective.


30 posted on 04/09/2014 2:55:03 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: ansel12

Your a day late and a dollar short. The SBC leadership is now pushing “diversity”, amnesty, a more friendly position toward sodomites and feminists, environmentalist nonsense, etc.

The SBC needs to be completely defunded.


31 posted on 04/09/2014 2:58:30 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A third party for Federal ans state elections is the only hope, with a platform containing a set of Constitutional amendments like Levin’s.

IF it is successful, it will take 20 years (or a collapse), but it’s better than Republicrat RINOs for the rest of our lives.


32 posted on 04/09/2014 3:28:50 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: doc1019

“You are talking about SBC, most Baptist do not belong to the SBC. The majority of Baptist are independent and stand alone in their convictions.”

Exactly. One of the main “properties” of true Baptists is independence and free will. The SBC is way more liberal than any of the independent churches I’ve belonged to or attended.


33 posted on 04/09/2014 4:12:18 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam

“One of the main “properties” of true Baptists is independence and free will.”

Indeed independence is an historic BaptIst trait, but not free will. Now there was a strain of free will among Baptists, but they were the minority. Historically speaking, Baptists overwhelmingly believed in the Doctrines of Grace until the early 20th century. Some Baptists continued to hold to sovereign grace throughout the 20th century, but they were scattered and they were a tiny minority. But over the past 25 years, God has been working and many Baptists have redisovered the doctrines of their forefathers.

Short of salvation, coming to understand and accept sovereign grace was the best thing God has ever done for me. My pastor for 30 years was Adrian Rogers and I graduated from an SBC university, so I was a typical conservative Southern Baptist. I’m thankful for my heritage. I had a front row seat to the “Battle for the Bible” so I learned early to stand on the Scriptures. It was that bedrock belief in the inerrancy and authority of the Bible that led me to where I am now. Today I’m much closer to historic Baptists like the founders of the SBC and Charles Spurgeon than Adrian Rogers or Charles Stanley. Most in my local congregation, including my pastor, have the same testimony. Most all of us were free will Baptists who found grace.


34 posted on 04/09/2014 5:44:29 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: hoagy62

He was an accomplish to the murder of Teri Schiavo. As governor of Florida this latest RINO Bush could have prevented her death. Instead of siding with her parents that wanted her to live he sided with the sorry shacking-up-with someone-else husband, who wanted her dead so he could get married again. If this latest Bush ever decides to run for president I hope his role in the murder of Teri Schiavo comes back to bite him square in ass.


35 posted on 04/09/2014 7:33:26 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet
He was an (accomplice) to the murder of Teri Schiavo.

This reminder needs to be posted every time Jeb Bush's name appears on this board.

36 posted on 04/09/2014 7:37:25 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: hoagy62

Yup. Only pro-liberty and anti-police state candidates for me.


37 posted on 04/09/2014 7:53:50 AM PDT by Augustinian monk (RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: achilles2000

Unless Southern Baptists have quit voting about 80% pro-life republican, then my post was completely accurate.


38 posted on 04/09/2014 9:35:30 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Augustinian monk
Only pro-liberty and anti-police state candidates for me.

Judging by your tag line, you mean left leaning pro-gay marriage, rino social liberals.

39 posted on 04/09/2014 9:37:42 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: MayflowerMadam

In case you are interested, here is a good overview of the development of Baptists in America.

TULIPS in the Baptist Garden
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=5220283348

If you are interested in a primer on TULIP from a Baptist perspective, I can make a number of recommendations. It was in the 90’s when I began to encounter “Calvinism” on a regular basis and I was really concerned about it, so much so that I fought against it. Frankly, it made me mad. In my zeal to defend free will I began to study harder, mostly so I could win a friendly debate with a Christian friend. I gathered a lot of resources and realized my friend had made a few good points. I had some creeping doubts, but for a time I believed I just hadn’t studied enough yet. Although there were numerous stepping stones along the way, one seminal day I was listening to a sermon as I drove down the road and the minister read from the sixth chapter of John. When he read verse 44 it hit me like a ton of bricks. He was reading from the KJV. The words “no man can” stopped me cold. I pulled over and rewound and listened again. I repeated that several more times. Soon I was praying for God to teach me the truth, promising I would simply believe His Word even if it contradicted everything I had believed all of my life. He taught me, it indeed contradicted everything I had been taught and believed, but it isn’t an overstatement to say coming to understand and accept God’s sovereignty changed my life.


40 posted on 04/09/2014 9:39:53 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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