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Pay No Attention to That Man Behind the Curtain! Catholic History and the Emerald City Protocol
reformation21 ^ | April 2012 | Carl Trueman

Posted on 04/05/2014 5:57:23 AM PDT by Gamecock

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1 posted on 04/05/2014 5:57:23 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: metmom; daniel1212; Alex Murphy
FRoman Catholics!

Follow your doctrine!

Can. 831 §1. Except for a just and reasonable cause, the Christian faithful are not to write anything for newspapers, magazines, or periodicals which are accustomed to attack openly the Catholic religion or good morals; clerics and members of religious institutes, however, are to do so only with the permission of the local ordinary.

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Don't respond! You are violating church law if you do so!

2 posted on 04/05/2014 5:59:29 AM PDT by Gamecock (If the cross is not foolishness to the lost world then we have misrepresented the cross." S.L.)
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To: Gamecock
Some time ago I recall a Protestant minister saying that the name "Protestant" isn't relevant anymore as "we aren't protesting anything any more."

Sorry, I forgot who it was.

3 posted on 04/05/2014 6:10:07 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Gamecock
"Except for a just and reasonable cause."

Your lack of reading comprehension is probably a strong contributor to your heresy problem.

4 posted on 04/05/2014 6:13:54 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Keep reading. Do you have some permission higher than others?


5 posted on 04/05/2014 6:29:16 AM PDT by Gamecock (If the cross is not foolishness to the lost world then we have misrepresented the cross." S.L.)
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To: Gamecock

Game...

If the Catholic Church is an old anachronistic has-been of a religion - why do you have to talk and write about it every chance you get?

you are saved - right?

So why do you care what some old Catholics think or say or do?

What do you call a person who is preoccupied with someone else’s faith ?

I got it - a protestant!

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam


6 posted on 04/05/2014 6:34:45 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98
What do you call a person who is preoccupied with someone else’s faith ?

The apostle Paul.

7 posted on 04/05/2014 6:38:05 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
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To: Gamecock; LurkingSince'98
Empirical fact: The Papacy as an authoritative institution was not there in the early centuries.

That "empirical fact" is not a fact at all, but is open to dispute. Clement's letter to the Corinthians commands their obedience, to him. And the parties in the Quartodeciman controversy turned to Rome to settle it. By the time you get to Chalcedon, the Papacy clearly has some sort of unique authority. The main question is whether that authority is ordinary, or only exercised in extraordinary circumstances.

As for his other "empirical facts," they all sidestep the only question that ought to matter: was the office of the Roman Pontiff instituted and intended by Christ? If it was, what difference does it make that it was occupied by corrupt men at some point in history?

The office of the High Priest was unquestionably instituted by God through Moses. Were all the Jewish High Priests good and righteous men? Hardly, but that didn't invalidate the office at all.

But as Lurking notes, we clearly live rent-free in your head. I'll keep praying for you.

8 posted on 04/05/2014 6:49:13 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: cloudmountain
Funny but the entire section was not quoted! (My emphasis)

Can. 831 §1. Except for a just and reasonable cause, the Christian faithful are not to write anything for newspapers, magazines, or periodicals which are accustomed to attack openly the Catholic religion or good morals; clerics and members of religious institutes, however, are to do so only with the permission of the local ordinary.

§2. It is for the conference of bishops to establish norms concerning the requirements for clerics and members of religious institutes to take part on radio or television in dealing with questions of Catholic doctrine or morals.

Can. 832 Members of religious institutes also need permission of their major superior according to the norm of the constitutions in order to publish writings dealing with questions of religion or morals.

 


9 posted on 04/05/2014 6:49:15 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: DungeonMaster

Paul had something concrete to preach, not just a continuing scattershot critique of believers outside his authority.


10 posted on 04/05/2014 6:50:41 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Gamecock

Good thing we have another Freeper Catholic v Protestant thread. What better way to promote the cause of Conservatism?


11 posted on 04/05/2014 6:52:34 AM PDT by strider44
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To: strider44

Well said!


12 posted on 04/05/2014 6:55:07 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: strider44
This is more important than conservatism.
13 posted on 04/05/2014 6:56:27 AM PDT by Gamecock (If the cross is not foolishness to the lost world then we have misrepresented the cross." S.L.)
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To: LurkingSince'98

Cause I fear for their souls.


14 posted on 04/05/2014 6:57:27 AM PDT by Gamecock (If the cross is not foolishness to the lost world then we have misrepresented the cross." S.L.)
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To: Gamecock

Careful ... you’re beginning to sound like our Gloater-in-Chief.


15 posted on 04/05/2014 7:03:17 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: strider44

As a Protestant, I can’t stand these Protestants that do this. They even have a creepy ping list for Catholic bashing. It’s embarrassing. Don’t even get me started on the list members that praise themselves for their ability to post scripture in red. They remind me of Ray Stevens’ “Mississippi Squirrel Revival.”


17 posted on 04/05/2014 7:09:32 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Campion
Clement's letter to the Corinthians commands their obedience, to him.

That's not right. You should read the letter yourself. My favorite parts include the phoenix being real and salvation through faith.

The letter offered unsolicited advice. Since no one said he shouldn't have sent it, it is therefore assumed that he had the right to send it. Hence, he was over them and therefore supreme.

18 posted on 04/05/2014 7:16:23 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: Gamecock

This is a stain on Free Republic. Wasted band width by people claiming that their way to believe in Jesus better than your way.


19 posted on 04/05/2014 7:30:05 AM PDT by strider44
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To: Gamecock

“Cause I fear for their souls.”

Well that ‘splains it all...Catholics never bring up protestants because we know ‘you are saved’, which is why we never bring up, talk about, strategize over, or otherwise consume our little Catholic brains thinking about anything ‘protestant’.

however, being protestant YMMV.

AMDG


20 posted on 04/05/2014 7:36:16 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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