Posted on 03/22/2014 5:42:31 AM PDT by Gamecock
**And the Catholic Church was founded by Christ on the apostles.**
Are you saying that you don’t believe Christ’s words — that he ordained the apostles by breathing the Holy Spirit on them and giving them the power to hold or forgive sins? BTW — it’s in the Bible. I thought you guys believed the Bible, don’t you?
Amazing to me~
Yikes, that's a dangerous thing to say in the context of your posts. Whatever you think you are doing, you might do better for yourself to reconsider your heart and motive.
"If you were blind, you wouldn't be guilty," Jesus replied. "But you remain guilty because you claim you can see.
John 9:41
An irrelevant and meaningless distinction. What do you think dogma is, if not a "guideline"? I repeat, don't tell me you look only to scripture, and I look only to the church. It an easily disproven falsehood.
It is drawn from scripture, its foundation is scripture, that is what Sola scriptura means, that scripture is the sole authoritative basis for doctrine. We reach doctrine, all that is taught is founded and referenced to the scripture.
And, this message will likely make your head spin around.
Before you react, remember that we should take care with our judgments lest our mouths condemn us.
Actually, once the premise of the article was very solidly smacked down (if I do say so myself) this thread became about anything and everything that might keep readers here from noticing that the had to have been written by either an intellectually lazy but extremely pretentious jerk, or someone deliberately telling a lie but hoping readers are ignorant enough to believe the falsehood it spreads.
Vilating your dogma will get folks burned at the stake. Well, it used to anyway.
What amuses me is the idea that Catholics are not responsible for their interpretation of scripture. They point to the church - but did they forget that they chose membership in the church themselves? LOL! God is not mocked, and there is no avoiding answering for your own decisions, no matter how many layers of indemnification you THINK you have.
Are you sure your ego and rationality can recognize what is false?
You might be interested in one of these, I have a bunch of them and buy a couple more now and then. The history of those guys coming up with that as their first shirt might still be on the site somewhere.
Praying to angels??? Why not pray directly to Him Who is above all, instead of a created being that you do not know even hears what you pray??
It’s interesting that the Catholic Church teaches that anyone baptized is given the Holy Spirit, yet only those in their “apostolic line” can interpret Scripture. Jesus Himself said man was not to live on bread alone, but every word of God. If you are going to use Scripture in your actual life, you have to judge what it means and how it applies. Peter, I believe, said to be saved, we need to turn to God in repentance and believe in Jesus. A heart that has been changed to love God and submit to Him hears God’s voice and understands Scripture. Christians have disagreed over some of the lesser points, but on the most important there’s agreement. The unity among us might be better seen sometimes by unbelievers who oppose Christ and despise Christians and what they stand for.
You would have me seperated from the Angelic hosts of heaven who battle against Satan ?
Choose your sides carefully my friend......
No, not at all. Except that you are separated, don't know if they can hear you.
Can you point to any prayers to angels by Christians in the Scriptures? No.
Can you show any Apostles in the Scriptures praying to angels? No.
Can you show any command in the Scriptures to pray to angels? No.
Can you show any examples of Christians praying to angels in the Scriptures? No.
Can you show any art from the first 100 years of the Church that portrays Christians praying to angels? No.
Can you show any other extra-Biblical sources from the first 100 years of the Church that demonstrates Christians prayed to angels? No.
It is simply a pagan practice, later added. It remains a pagan practice today.
In the end, you are substituting a pagan practice and giving up direct access to God. He commands us to BOLDLY approach His throne with CONFIDENCE.
**Vilating **
Hmm. Never heard of that word before.
You claim that the angels cannot hear us, that we are not to talk with angels and ask them things, and finally say you cannot find examples of this in the Holy Bible and that Angels are somehow a pagan corruption.....
Friend. The Lord Be With You, may he guide you into all truth and grant you peace.
That there is so little RC magisterial interpretation, if true, is a highly relevant piece of information to those of us weighing the pros and cons of Catholicism v. Protestantism (or Evangelicalism) in these days of the One Church Emergent of Holy Marxism (the religious corollary to one-party U.S. government, an administrative department of OneWorldSystem, Inc.).
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