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Can a Baby Conceived by Rape Be Aborted? Megachurch Pastor Chris Oyakhilome's Response Sparks Debate
Christian Post ^ | 03/06/2014 | Nicola Menzie

Posted on 03/06/2014 9:14:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: precisionshootist

“In the end I think we will have to conclude a child is a gift from god whether he or she is the product of rape or not.”

A great many victims of rape have conceived a child, and have chosen to nurture and sustain it’s life, and to love it. May God bless them.
Pro-choice is a morally neutral term, its objective consequence depending entirely on the nature of the act that is chosen. Advocates of legal abortion abuse it to shield their evil intent.


21 posted on 03/06/2014 9:38:29 AM PST by Elsiejay (in)
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To: driftdiver

“It is never mentioned anywhere in the Bible, to keep a child from a woman who was raped!”

Sola Scriptura.


22 posted on 03/06/2014 9:38:51 AM PST by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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To: Fishface

More nonsense.

You’re using an obvious false teacher of God’s word to attack followers of Christmas. Shame on you.


23 posted on 03/06/2014 9:39:54 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Fishface

Nonsense,

Heretic


24 posted on 03/06/2014 9:40:40 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Abortion is not an eraser.

Ever.


25 posted on 03/06/2014 9:41:36 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Mr. K

“You would make a woman walk around for 9 months pregnant and force her to raise a rapists child?”

First, you would murder the innocent baby because the baby’s father was a rapist?

Second, no one is telling a “woman she has to spend the next 18 years raising a child she didnt want.” She can place for adoption. . .the innocent baby lives, a loving family has a child and the biological mother knows she is not a murderer.


26 posted on 03/06/2014 9:42:39 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Fishface

RE: Do Protestants consider the Didache: Sacred Scripture?

Based on my conversations with Protestant Scholars, they consider the Didache a good SUMMARY of what Scripture teaches.


27 posted on 03/06/2014 9:45:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I was hoping my sarcasm wouldn’t need a tag.


28 posted on 03/06/2014 9:46:31 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: rjsimmon

“Why does the baby have to pay the ultimate price for the sin of its father?”

As a man and someone who will never be in this predicament, It’s hard to know the right answer to this. However, consider this:

In cases where the rape involved a physical assault, clearly the woman is justified in taking the life of the rapist to prevent the rape. If the woman is raped and conceives the child of the rapist, is the pregnancy not a continuation of the assault? One could argue that it is, since he left part of himself inside of her and it is growing as the cells divide.

That said, why would she NOT have a right to terminate the assault using deadly force?

I specifically said a physical assault. There are many kinds of rape.


29 posted on 03/06/2014 9:48:49 AM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: driftdiver

My point is simply that relying solely on Sacred Scripture opens up these challenges based on rationalization and justification.

In order to defend what you think is obvious Christian teaching on abortion, you are forced to rely on Christian Tradition and Teaching found in sources other than Sacred Scripture.


30 posted on 03/06/2014 9:49:19 AM PST by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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To: Fishface

If a person will not obey scripture, what makes you think he will obey what Christian Tradition teaches?


31 posted on 03/06/2014 9:52:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: babygene

Interesting thought, but consider the implication. . .using your logic, the child can be killed post-birth because the child is the result of an ongoing assault. Sins of the father onto the son kind of thing.


32 posted on 03/06/2014 9:52:40 AM PST by Hulka
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To: SeekAndFind

“have you ever considered the hundreds of thousands wanting to adopt a child?”

Very few people (including blacks) will adopt a black baby.


33 posted on 03/06/2014 9:53:28 AM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Fishface

No need to rely on tradition. God has commanded us to not murder.

Pretty simple. Unless of course a person seeks to use it as disinformation to attack followers of Christ.


34 posted on 03/06/2014 9:54:21 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mr. K

You would kill a defenseless baby?


35 posted on 03/06/2014 9:55:22 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: babygene
If the woman is raped and conceives the child of the rapist, is the pregnancy not a continuation of the assault?

No.

One could argue that it is, since he left part of himself inside of her and it is growing as the cells divide.

Once again, No.

The child is not the father, it is not the mother, it is it's self. The baby is not a clone even if it was it is not "him" but it's self.

Genetic guilt is a superstition that should be discarded.

This is the same argument that a woman has the right to abort because the child is her. It is morally and scientifically wrong.

36 posted on 03/06/2014 9:57:35 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Pecos

Agreed. It’s a hard thing, but adding murder to rape doesn’t make it easier. That child has done nothing wrong. That child is the neighbor we’re supposed to love as ourselves. There are waiting lists for adoption.


37 posted on 03/06/2014 9:58:55 AM PST by afsnco
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To: Hulka

“using your logic, the child can be killed post-birth because the child is the result of an ongoing assault”

Nope, once the child is born the assault has ended. The woman would also not be justified in killing the rapist after the fact.


38 posted on 03/06/2014 10:00:48 AM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess that is my point, this pastor is obeying Scripture.

He is using it to defend his position. What can any Protestant do to stop him? He is using Scripture to formulate his “Christian” teaching. Sure, they will scoff at him and call him names, but they are missing the point. According to him, he is obeying Scripture.

This is the problem with Sola Scriptura and why we have so many Protestant Denominations, each teaching whatever they read or don’t read in Scripture.

Surely, this isn’t what Christ intended for his Church. There has to be an Authority here on earth to preserve, protect and provide the True Teachings of Christ to each and every generation. This Authority can only come from Apostolic succession. Otherwise, the True Teachings of Christ will continue to be distorted by subjective interpretation.


39 posted on 03/06/2014 10:01:13 AM PST by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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To: driftdiver

yes I love killing defenselss babies!!

idiot


40 posted on 03/06/2014 10:01:13 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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