Posted on 02/12/2014 10:26:21 AM PST by Dr. Thorne
ON THE QUESTION of how far papal authority extends, the canon law of the Catholic Church could not be clearer: “The vicar of Christ. . . possesses full, immediate, and universal ordinary power in the Church, which he is always able to exercise freely.” (Can. 331) Note that canon law does not say, “except in cases of priestly sex abuse of children.” Canon law does not say that priests and bishops are independent contractors. Canon law does not say that what happens in Catholic parishes and dioceses around the world has nothing to do with Rome. In fact, another canon reads, “By virtue of his office, the Roman pontiff not only possesses power over the universal church, but also obtains the primacy of ordinary power over all particular churches and groups of them.” (Can. 333)
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Utter cowardice and depravity. False doctrine breeds corruption.
If I led a kingdom, priests who corrupted youths would burn at the stake. Harsh? Maybe so, but to corrupt youths from a position of trust does lasting damage to the kingdom itself. (Plus, if you allow them to live, they do it again and again. Their disease is incurable.)
I find it hard to take seriously a rag like the BG pontificating when they advocate depravity day and night.
I suggest a more scriptural punishment involving a large stone and the sea.
Yes-—the Catholic Church was infiltrated, as Pope Pius X warned about in “Pascendi” about the “modernism”. There are evil “Catholic” clergy in the Vatican-—they are no more “Catholic” than Obama. Bella Dodd writes about the infiltration of homosexual Marxists in the 30s and 40s. She was a Communist operative who was baptized by Abp. Fulton Sheen.
The Catholic Canon is supreme-—not the pope or cardinals. If they confuse or discard that Canon-—they are not promoting Catholicism. It is essential for the pope to control the ideas of all clergy which is “taught” as “truth” to the laity.
Fr. Oko’s report on the infiltration of the Church by the Homomafia is an interesting read. http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/02/fr-dariusz-okos-major-article-with-pope.html
There is a war inside the Catholic Church-—has been for the last century.
Either the Church stands for the Truth/God, or it doesn’t. There is no middle ground.
Carroll and other liberals of his ilk, is brave to take on the Catholic Church, probably the most persecuted and assailed institution in the world, at least by liberals.
I wonder if he has the courage to take on the DNC, and its official pedophile wing, the NEA, for its organized program of child molestation? In simple numbers, for example, could he compare the number of teachers using their students for sex toys to the number of priests already outed?
I should probably dream on.
After many years I gave up The Boston Globe because of writers like Carroll.
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Really? REALLY??
Only after the whole mess blew up in their face!
For decades before the Roman Catholic Church dealt with it all by shuffling child molesters from one unsuspecting house of worship to another.
They were not "infiltrated", there was no conspiracy of young individual men devoting their entire lives to the Catholic church in hopes of being discovered as homosexual some day, to embarrasses them, or to live the life of closeted gay guy spending his entire life in the robes and role of Catholic religious leader just to make a point, that is silly.
The reality is that they are attracted to the culture of the Catholic religious leadership. Individual homosexual Catholics for various reasons, whether they know that they are gay or not, are attracted to become a part of the all male world of the priest where the rejection of the female is total, men who have no desire to become a husband or a father or even a boyfriend or date, who's last intimate male/female relationship will be as "the good son" to his mother.
You may want to reread my sentence - it is the present tense. You are trying to refute what I state by talking about the past.
To address that, I'll have to research it and see what really happened and who these pedophiles really were and where they came from. As you know, or should know, the press routinely lies and conducts overall sloppy journalism on issues that matter.
Finally, are you of the opinion that homosexuals do not conspire to destroy institutions? Do you not think they deliberately harass organizations with the goal of normalizing their perversion?
No excuse for teacher abuse either, or parent abuse or anything else.
and yes the public school bureaucracy protected the abusers just like the Catholic Church bureaucracy did, where are the class action suits?
***Finally, are you of the opinion that homosexuals do not conspire to destroy institutions?***
Of course they do.
Girls were molested too ya know.
You obviously are ignorant of the Marxist infiltration and “Long March” into all institutions and governments, which wielded any type of “Power”. It is well documented. There was no wealthier or more powerful organization than the Catholic Church in the early 1900s.
The main opposition to Marxism was always the Catholic Church and Christian Theology, until Vatican II. (Funny it ended then). Read the encyclicals of any popes in the early 1900. I suppose you think Pope Pius X is lying when he explains the great danger inside the Church in 1908 in Pascendi.
True, the “all” male clergy is attractive to anti-female males, but the church used to weed those “intrinsically disordered” types out of the clergy whenever they wielded their ugly heads until the 30s.
“They were not “infiltrated”, there was no conspiracy of young individual men...”
Actually there was. This has been well documented too. See Fr. Enrique Rueda’s famous book, http://www.amazon.com/The-Homosexual-Network-Private-Public/dp/0815957149
“... are attracted to become a part of the all male world of the priest where the rejection of the female is total,”
Except that every secular priest works with women every day.
“men who have no desire to become a husband or a father or even a boyfriend or date,”
Except I know priests and seminarians who have openly and eloquently discussed their desire to be fathers and husbands and they were all boyfriends to someone before their religious lives.
“who’s last intimate male/female relationship will be as “the good son” to his mother.”
You clearly have no clue about the lives of most priests who have sisters, nieces, aunts, and many friends.
True, the “all” male clergy is attractive to anti-female males, but the church used to weed those “intrinsically disordered” types out of the clergy whenever they wielded their ugly heads until the 30s.
You do seem to understand the permanence of the homosexual attraction that is built into their culture.
No, young men aren’t giving up their entire life to serve Rome, only with the hope that they will get caught having a homosexual love affair some day before they die of old age.
No one said that the religious leaders of the church can or even try to avoid any contact at all with females, for instance employees and servants, even parishioners when they are working in that capacity, for instance giving communion to Nancy Pelosi is contact, but it doesn’t penetrate their all male world, all homosexuals interact with females to that degree, in fact to avoid it, they would be much better off to try to work their way up into the Catholic hierarchy.
Not the way you think. Worldview is just that and can be changed with Truth always.
Chastity/homosexuality are incongruent. Homosexuals are puerile by nature.
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/02/fr-dariusz-okos-major-article-with-pope.html
Young homosexual men who are conflicted, who are confused, who are in denial, or who are trying to avoid doing what they may have already started doing, or even young men who have already had a relationship in the church, or who sensed the restrained lust for male flesh, or repressed aversion to females, are all examples of types who would be attracted to follow their priests into his profession.
As you mentioned, the culture has a built in attraction to homosexuals that will always be in place.
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