Posted on 01/03/2014 2:22:19 PM PST by ebb tide
::gets popcorn::
too bad I’ll be out of town for the upcoming accusations/judgments.
Safe journey, piusv. Back roads are still treacherous in my part of the US. If driving, it’s always too easy to pull over and rest.
St. Bernard: "But perhaps someone will say, 'Did she not know ahead of time that her Son was going to die?' Yes, undoubtedly."
I don’t see how that disagrees with this sermon.
Please explain.
Of course. However, she received the grace to cooperate perfectly with His Holy Will in the mystery of redemption.
"Hail, Mary Mother of God, venerable treasure of the whole world . . . it is you through whom the Holy Trinity is glorified and adored . . . through whom the tempter, the devil is cast down from heaven, through whom the fallen creature is raised up to heaven, through whom all creation, once imprisoned by idolatry, has reached knowledge of the truth, through whom nations are brought to repentance". (qtd. in Luigi Gambero, Mary and the Fathers of the Church: The Blessed Virgin Mary in Patristic Thought) - Cyril of Alexandria
She did consent, as St. Luke tells us, saying: "Be it done to me according to your word. "She gave her fiat, her obedience to the will of God, as the angel told her of His will. Did she later retract this acceptance of God's will? Of course not. Any soul either falls back or goes ahead in holiness. Holiness really consists in the alignment of our wills, through grace, with the will of God--for the free will is the only thing free we have. So Mary faithfully stood by Him, keeping in the background when the crowds gave Him praise, but moving out into the dark blackness that hung over Calvary. There she stood.
What was her reaction? Of course, she grieved, as any Mother would, seeing her Son suffering so horribly. And she saw that suffering as our crucifixes do not generally let us see it--they contain no trace at all of the horrid scourging, leaving Him bloody all over.
But now we can begin to realize something tremendous. As we said, spiritual perfection consists in the alignment of our will with the will of the Father. Further, when we know what He positively wills, it is not enough for us to say, as it were: "Let it go". No, we are called on to positively will what He wills. But what did He will in that dread hour? She knew from Isaiah 53:10: "It was the will of the Lord to crush Him with pain." So the Father willed that His Son should die, die then, die so horribly. So did the Son will it. So she was then called upon to will what the Father willed, what her Son willed, in other words, she was called on to will positively that He die, die then, die horribly.
No, it is through Christ that these things have been accomplished. Give the glory laud and honor to the Creator, not one of His creatures.
Yes I am. We had worse priests than mere idiots, and he is an idiot, who simply wants to smear the pope, and throws slanders without bothering to at least understand the homily, or the Catholic teaching on homosexual attraction. And, by the way, where is he a "Catholic priest"?
As far as real-life personalities of Freepers, I prefer not to speculate beyond what they disclose.
Third thread of hourly posting on this and you still haven’t figured out that Mary’s doubt is not asserted in the homily?
God chose Mary to magnify His glory.
Who are we to question His Holy Will?
And Mary said: My soul doth magnify the Lord. And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. Because he that is mighty, hath done great things to me; and holy is his name.
And you still have figured out that the pope has blasphemed the Blessed Mother.
There is no blasphemy in the homily, and you should stop slandering the pope.
This statement manifests the consequence of Judgment. Jesus Christ was perfectly Holy. All sins of humanity were imputed to Him on the Cross and they were Judged in His soul. The consequence of that Judgment, was a spiritual death, a state of existence involving separation.
When He was separated, that was the spiritual death required of a Perfect Sacrifice to redemptively atone for the sins of all humanity, propitiating God's wrath, thereby completing the payment for sin.
Good and evil are not so addressed at the Cross.
It should also be noted that his address to Mary occurred after the Judgment. That means, when He addressed His mother in His humanity, he provided her an opportunity to observe Him on the Cross, as her son. This didn;t judge her errors or sins in how she perceived Jesus Christ, but gave her the opportunity to return to judge herself and confess and turn back to God through faith in what He had just provided on the Cross.
The only reason the RCC ever paid so much devotion to Mary was their policy to meet other religions half way. Most of the world at that time worshiped the Mother and Child as worshiped in Babylon, a purely pagan system of worship.
Mary was just as much in need of salvation as any other human being since Adam.
You should stop slandering traditional priests.
It likely was...Mary was pretty shook up over it...
That’s quite a fabrication from Newman...Hey, did he ever get buried with his boyfriend/girlfriend or not???
LOL...Was Jesus good after he wasn't???
Do you own a bible? If so, please read it.
Where is Father Celatus a “priest”? And since when calling someone a cretin after having read his cretinous article, slander?
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