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Posted on 11/04/2013 9:54:01 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman
Originally entitled, "Relating Environmental Fascism to Baalism and the End Times," the Gulag has posted a very interesting presentation on the connections between ancient fertility cults, modern environmentalism, and the road to the apocalypse. And yes, one way to aptly characterize National Socialism's eugenic policies is to compare it to an ancient nature worship fertility cult like Baalism, all dressed up in modern vernacular, and presented to the German people as the latest 'science,' even though it was nothing but crackpot biology with strong ecological undercurrents …
(Excerpt) Read more at gulagbound.com ...
An important part of Nazism was antisemitism. There is nothing antisemitic about Agenda 21.
Tables and old broom handles are similar in that they are both made of wood.
If you look long enough you can find some similarities between any two random things you dream up.
Why would anyone want to identify Agenda 21 with fertility cults or Nazism? Are people who are in favor of Agenda 21 or unaware of Agenda 21 going to say "Aha! This is the last straw. Now I'm finally going to oppose Agenda 21.
It would be as if someone thought that saying "Abortion clinics take up space in strip malls that could be filled with Chinese take-out places" would be the final nail in the coffin for abortion clinics.
Absolutely spot on. This Agenda21 paranoia makes us look as dumb as the global warming nuts.
Many greens are anti-Semitic and are involved in boycotting Jewish goods, etc. They are also anti-Christian ...
Even without Agenda 21, environmentalism has already strapped America into permanent high housing, land and energy prices - which is never going to get better until Americans begin to see the great dangers that this movement possesses. It is rotting us from the inside out. You will also notice that it was the Gulag who changed the title to include Agenda 21. The presentation itself barely mentions Agenda 21, and only toward the end.
Some forms of conservatism are necessarily antisemitic.
That doesn't mean that those of us who are conservative or libertarian and NOT antisemitic should stop being conservative or libertarian.
If some people are not buying certain "Jewish" products it's most likely because those products are made in Israel and those people are just anti-Israel, or opposed to Israeli domestic or foreign policy. Being opposed to Israeli domestic and/or foreign policy is not necessarily antisemitic no matter how many neocons claim it is.
The Gulag changed the title to include Agenda 21 in order to try and capture more attention. The presentation barely mentions it, and only toward the end. However, Agenda 21 is rooted in the Nazi Lebensraum tradition, or space environmental planning that the Nazis engineered during the 1930’s when their racist ideas merged with their environmental ideas in order to create the first political drive for sustainable development. Agenda 21 is also into preserving separate bioregions where people will be expected to sustain themselves in their own local only bioregional economies. So, in this sense, it is rooted in tribalistic ideas. Even National Geographic, which promoted environmental globalism, is very infatuated with primitive tribes ...
This is because there are large blocks of nominally liberal Democrat voters that are also opposed to extreme environmentalism.
Unions are not big fans of extreme environmentalism because it hurts job creation.
Hispanics are not big fans of extreme environmentalism because it would mean closing the US/Mexico border to protect the Saguaro cactus and would mean increasing the cost of agriculture reducing jobs for illegal immigrants.
Blacks are not big fans of extreme environmentalism because it hurts job creation and it's viewed as an ivory tower concern of uptight white intellectuals.
Most people still want to eat meat and wear leather goods or sit in leather chairs, couches, and car seats.
Most people still would prefer to own a single family home rather than an apartment or condo.
Extreme environmentalism might eventually make it to the top of the list of things to worry about, but for now we have nationalized health care, deficits, debt, declining morals, etc. much higher on our lists.
But environmentalism is much more philosophically grounded in its Anti-Semitism as it uses nature and/or nature worship to contrast itself with Jews and Christian who emphasize transcendentalism above nature. Environmentalism is a form of existentialism rooted in 1800’s Germany that was aimed directly at the Judeo-Christian worldview.
In spite of everything you listed there, environmentalism is running this country into the ground because folks like you are blind to its dangers. I am amazed at how often people give environmentalism a pass ...
Antisemitism has a very specific meaning. It does not mean being against a monotheistic God such as the one believed in by Christians, Jews, and Muslims.
It means thinking that Jews are inherently evil and/or subhuman because of their ancestry.
There are Jews that believe that fundamentalist Christians are antisemitic. For example, there are Jews that believe that the organization 'Jews for Jesus' is antisemitic.
Their reasoning is that some fundamentalist Christians believe that Judaism is a feeble attempt at approximating Christianity rather than a full-fledged religion with its own history.
Some Zionists might welcome the support of fundamentalist Christians in their efforts to expand/reclaim Israeli territory or to rebuild a synagogue on the temple mount. But I imagine the Zionists view this as a sort of "deal with the devil".
Germany transitioned away from the age old Christian-Anti Semitism and converted into environmental anti-Semitism for all the reasons mentioned earlier. The very German father of Social Darwinism, Ernst Haeckel, coined the term ecology in 1866. He was the first scientist to characterize the Jews as a biological problem. He complained that they were resistant to change, and out of step with nature’s evolutionary laws ...
How are you defining "fundamentalist Christian"?
Perhaps you should actually consider watching the presentation?
This clip puts history into prospect.
Environmentalism is a form of existentialism rooted in 1800’s Germany that was aimed directly at the Judeo-Christian worldview.
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The two primary Germanic precursors of modern existentialism were Nietzsche and Kierkegaard. And I think most would suggest that they track closer to nihilism than existentialism.
I would be very interested in your research tying either one of these guys into the environmental movement as it exists today as part of Agenda 21, or any radical environmential movement for that matter.
Whatever ...
The author/presenter has already done this on the American Thinker - http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/friedrich_nietzsche_his_proto-nazi_eco-fascism.html.
Many environmentalists hold Christianity in complete contempt for destroying nature because of texts like Genesis 1 where God commands Adam and Even to subdue and fill the earth. And then they turn to Assisi as the one exception to the general rule that they wish more Christians would follow ...
Nietzsche himself would not agree that he was a nihilist, but the difference between nihilism and some shades of existentialism, especially of the environmental variety, are not all that great anyway ...
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