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Is It OK to Be “Pro-Choice”?
The Christian Post ^ | October 18, 2013 | James R. Aist

Posted on 10/18/2013 2:48:18 PM PDT by James R. Aist

People who are “pro-choice” believe that they are just defending the right of the mother to decide whether her unborn child lives or dies; thus, “pro-choice.” At the same time, they deny that they have any responsibility for the death of the unborn child if the mother decides to abort. This is nonsense. By supporting their right to choose, you are, in effect, implying that you believe either choice, life or death, is equally good and moral, and to the extent that you influence them to agree with you, you share in whatever decision they make. The only way you can avoid a shared responsibility in a decision to abort is to take a stand against abortion, i.e., to be “pro-life.”

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: abortion; murder; prochoice; prolife
The God of the Bible has made it clear what He thinks about abortion. I would not want to oppose Him on this issue.
1 posted on 10/18/2013 2:48:18 PM PDT by James R. Aist
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To: James R. Aist

I would say that the simplest way to decide whether it’s ok is to use the exact same arguments, but substitute slavery for the term abortion.

Try it.


2 posted on 10/18/2013 2:50:12 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: James R. Aist

The vast majority of pregnant women had a choice in whether or not to have inseminating sex.


3 posted on 10/18/2013 2:53:38 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: James R. Aist

It’s not OK for the baby.


4 posted on 10/18/2013 2:54:13 PM PDT by 1raider1
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To: Jonty30

That’s what I always say.


5 posted on 10/18/2013 2:55:33 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: James R. Aist

Is it OK to excerpt your blog when you could post the full content?


6 posted on 10/18/2013 2:57:20 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: James R. Aist

GrumbleBummer has mental issues...serious ones. Jeez, what a compulsive bore.


7 posted on 10/18/2013 3:00:39 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Jonty30

6 a.m., day after Christmas
I throw some clothes on in the dark
The smell of cold
Car seat is freezing
The world is sleeping
I am numb

Up the stairs to the apartment
She is balled up on the couch
Her mom and dad went down to Charlotte
They’re not home to find us out
And we drive
Now that I have found someone
I’m feeling more alone
Than I ever have before

She’s a brick and I’m drowning slowly
Off the coast and I’m headed nowhere
She’s a brick and I’m drowning slowly

They call her name at 7:30
I pace around the parking lot
Then I walk down to buy her flowers
And sell some gifts that I got
Can’t you see
It’s not me you’re dying for
Now she’s feeling more alone
Than she ever has before

She’s a brick and I’m drowning slowly
Off the coast and I’m headed nowhere
She’s a brick and I’m drowning slowly

As weeks went by
It showed that she was not fine
They told me, “Son, it’s time to tell the truth”
And she broke down, and I broke down
‘Cause I was tired of lying

Driving back to her apartment
For the moment we’re alone
But she’s alone
And I’m alone
And now I know it

She’s a brick and I’m drowning slowly
Off the coast and I’m headed nowhere
She’s a brick and I’m drowning slowly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5EHAqhR1c


8 posted on 10/18/2013 3:02:09 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: James R. Aist

Liberals are opposed to personal choice.

The only choice they think should be allowed is who you sleep with and whether you have an abortion.

Other than that, they require you to keep your mouth shut and do what you’re told.


9 posted on 10/18/2013 3:04:54 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: James R. Aist

Very well spoken and posted. I agree with you completely.


10 posted on 10/18/2013 3:05:59 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Jonty30

Substitute “murder” for “abortion” and try it out.


11 posted on 10/18/2013 3:06:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: James R. Aist

Does the baby get a choice?


12 posted on 10/18/2013 3:06:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Zeneta

Bodies - Sex Pistols

She was a girl from Birmingham
She just had an abortion
She was a case of insanity
Her name was Pauline, she lived in a tree

She was a no one who killed her baby
She sent her letters from the country
She was an animal
She was a bloody disgrace

Body, I’m not an animal
Body, I’m not an animal

Dragged on a table in a factory
Illegitimate place to be
In a packet in a lavatory
Die little baby, screaming

Body, screamin’, f’ing bloody mess
Not an animal, it’s an abortion

Body, I’m not an animal
Mummy, I’m not an abortion

Throbbing squirm
Gurgling bloody mess

I’m not a discharge
I’m not a loss in protein
I’m not a throbbing squirm

F this and f that
F it all and f the f’ing brat
She don’t wanna baby that looks like that
I don’t wanna baby that looks like that

Body, I’m not an animal
Body, an abortion

Body, I’m not an animal
Body, I’m not an animal
An animal, I’m not an animal

I’m not an animal, an animal
I’m not an animal, I ain’t no animal

I’m not a body
I’m not an animal, an animal
I ain’t no animal, I’m not an animal
I’m not an animal, Mummy


13 posted on 10/18/2013 3:08:25 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: James R. Aist

Sure, if you agree that killing babies all the way up to the point of birth is a good idea.

Not for me though.


14 posted on 10/18/2013 3:13:04 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: Maceman

Well said. I’m not sure how the issue of choice became the mantra of the liberals on abortion, but liberals tend to be anti-choice on many other issues.

We can’t choose what light bulbs to use.
We can’t choose what type of toilet to have.
We aren’t allowed to choose our children’s schools.

When liberals are in charge, we don’t have any choice in certain areas. Instead we are supposed to defer to the wisdom of liberal elites. Yet on the abortion question, we are told that we need to be pro-choice, that this large moral/ethical question should be up to people to decide for themselves.

I would like to know what are the liberal criteria for deciding which areas of life we have choices in, and which areas of life we are compelled to defer to a liberal elite.


15 posted on 10/18/2013 3:22:34 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MarkBsnr

Thank you.


16 posted on 10/18/2013 3:30:38 PM PDT by James R. Aist
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To: Maceman

Right on target, Maceman.


17 posted on 10/18/2013 3:31:27 PM PDT by James R. Aist
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To: Yossarian

You’re exactly right about that!


18 posted on 10/18/2013 3:32:16 PM PDT by James R. Aist
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To: dfwgator

A few years ago I had a very liberal Girlfriend.

We would regularly undertake road trips that had only a few rules, get lost, no highways.

I drove from DC to NYC and only paid one toll (Lincoln Tunnel). In the middle of the night without GPS or a road that had more than one lane in either direction.

We did the same thing going to Niagara Falls. No highways, all back roads. No GPS.

Over time my ability to “get lost” was a challenge.

It was all about the music, sex and drinking along the way.

Cresting Skyline Drive at dawn, after 36 hours of driving with Pink Floyd was an experience that I will never forget.

Heading home ?

A detour ?

Something else to think about.

We found ourselves on Lee HWY after being on the road and drinking continuously for at least 36 hours.

BTW, I’m a really good driver.

She loved the music, as did I.

As we drove past an abortion clinic, with protesters out front, I think it was Creed playing, and I broke down in tears.

She knew my position but did not understand why I was crying.


19 posted on 10/18/2013 3:50:17 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: James R. Aist
The God of the Bible has made it clear what He thinks about abortion. I would not want to oppose Him on this issue.

He knows us in the womb. The "up side" of it is that those killed in the womb get to enjoy Heaven without the travails of the disintegrating societies of the world.

On another note, isn't it interesting how the Left keeps co-opting phraseology that had distinct and varying meanings and turns it into a descriptive for some of the most evil acts that Mankind has devised...

20 posted on 10/18/2013 4:17:37 PM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: James R. Aist

It’s NOT OK with GOD who is the ONLY obe that matters.


21 posted on 10/18/2013 4:20:50 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: James R. Aist

If the baby consents then its okay by me.


22 posted on 10/18/2013 4:38:00 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: James R. Aist

No. Not really. I don’t feel obligated to protest. But I do feel obligated to explain my personal position when it’s discussed.

The conversation usually ends when I say the I must disagree, agreeably with your “choice” position...(to kill your baby.)


23 posted on 10/18/2013 4:54:08 PM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: trebb

Yes, it is interesting. That’s the only way they can get well-meaning individuals to agree with them, because they do not have a defensible position.


24 posted on 10/18/2013 8:22:09 PM PDT by James R. Aist
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To: Ann Archy

Amen to that!


25 posted on 10/18/2013 8:22:51 PM PDT by James R. Aist
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To: James R. Aist
The only way you can avoid a shared responsibility in a decision to abort is to take a stand against abortion, i.e., to be “pro-life.”

Amen! Absolutely.

I had a bumper sticker on my car a number of years back that said:

PRO-WOMAN, PRO-CHILD, PRO-LIFE

I got mixed responses from other drivers. Some would honk and give a thumbs up and others, like one woman I spoke to at the post office, who actually commented on it, disapproved - not because it said Pro-life but because it said Pro-Woman. She thought it was too "feminist". I think we forget sometimes that there IS a woman involved and not just the unborn child and that abortion truly damages her, as well. That is why I supported and volunteered at our local Crisis Pregnancy Center because it gave tangible as well as emotional and spiritual support to the woman as well as her baby. She was empowered by learning about her baby, the reality of abortion and its risks and heartaches, the positive choices she DID have that she could live with afterward and which involved the entire family support system that she needed to see her pregnancy through instead of what was sold as a convenient way to be "rid" of it.

As pro-lifers we MUST be more that speakers of that truth but DOERS, too. Many times the pro-abortion/anti-life forces accuse us of only caring about the unborn baby and not the needs of the mother. Let's prove to them more than we ever have in the past that this is untrue and unfounded.

A great proponent of life is Dr. David Reardon. He said something that struck me as quite profound and a worthy cause we should all strive for and it is that when the truth about abortion is finally known and society fully aware of the great evil and damage abortion causes to ALL areas of life it won't have to be made illegal because it will become UNTHINKABLE. May this truly be our goal with the help of Almighty God!

26 posted on 10/18/2013 10:49:47 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: James R. Aist

Yes sir, God sure is clear on the matter. Life begins at conception. Right there in all those Genesis geneologies we all usually skim through. Notice in a Genesis genealogy it says a certain man begat a certain son. It does not say born to or birthed. It says begat, the conception event.

So life according to Genesis starts at conception. That leads us then to thou shalt not murder. And that is abortion, murder.

How long before God judges this nation for offering babies on the altar of Molech?


27 posted on 10/18/2013 11:13:43 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: Zeneta

Enlighten us why did you cry?


28 posted on 10/18/2013 11:18:25 PM PDT by redleghunter
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29 posted on 10/18/2013 11:37:57 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: boatbums

Amen, and thank you.


30 posted on 10/19/2013 9:01:13 AM PDT by James R. Aist
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To: redleghunter

Good point!


31 posted on 10/19/2013 9:02:02 AM PDT by James R. Aist
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To: James R. Aist

Choice - keep your pants on - raising 4 daughters ...


32 posted on 10/20/2013 6:12:35 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Zeneta

“..why I was crying...”
Beautiful post. Many thanks


33 posted on 10/20/2013 6:15:27 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01

That’s REAL “body control”, isn’t it?!


34 posted on 10/20/2013 6:19:35 AM PDT by James R. Aist
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To: James R. Aist

REAL body contol ....

It does help when they are teens and the hormones rage ...

My oldest (26) is married and we now have the most beautiful grand daughter ever.

First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes the baby in the baby carriage.


35 posted on 10/20/2013 7:17:40 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01

That’s still how it should be.


36 posted on 10/20/2013 11:35:15 AM PDT by James R. Aist
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To: James R. Aist
Is this how much you collect for every hit to your blog? More? Less?

How about an excerpt from an essay titled "Is the Earth Round or Flat?"

37 posted on 10/20/2013 11:40:37 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

May the peace of Christ find you.


38 posted on 10/20/2013 4:41:20 PM PDT by James R. Aist
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