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Once Gay, Always Gay?
Stand To Reason ^ | August 2013 | ALAN SHLEMON

Posted on 09/30/2013 12:33:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The “experts” have spoken. Change in sexual orientation is not possible. Homosexuality, we’re told, is an inborn and unchangeable trait, like eye color. Case closed.

This implies that adolescents with same-sex attraction (SSA) or homoerotic dreams are manifesting symptoms of an underlying reality: They are homosexual. Because sexual orientation is fixed at birth (so the theory goes), these desires will endure through their teenage years and into adulthood.

This view is at odds with scientific research, though. Several studies report the opposite – that SSA among adolescents is more likely to change than remain fixed.

One study* followed approximately 10,800 adolescents between the ages of 16 and 22 years old. Of the 16 year-old males who had exclusively SSA, 61% had opposite-sex attraction at age 17. For same-sex attracted females, 81% changed to opposite attraction in just one year.

The study also compared sexual attraction at ages 17 and 22, with similar results. For example, 75% of adolescent males with SSA at age 17 had opposite-sex attraction at age 22.

Dr. Neil Whitehead, a research scientist who worked for the New Zealand government for 24 years and the United Nations for another four years, analyzed this study. He notes that although a small percentage of heterosexual adolescents developed homosexuality, the vast majority transitioned in the opposite direction. Based on the data, 16 year-olds with SSA are “25 times more likely to change towards heterosexuality at the age of 17 than those with a heterosexual orientation are likely to change towards bi-sexuality or homosexuality.” That means that heterosexuality is 25 times more stable than homosexuality. It also seems to suggest that heterosexuality is more of a “default” orientation.

That’s not all. Approximately 3% of the current heterosexual population once claimed to have either SSA or bisexual attractions. That means there are more people who have changed to exclusively heterosexual attraction than there are currently homosexuals and bisexuals combined. As Dr. Whitehead put it, “Ex-gays outnumber actual gays.”

This is a stunning report. Not only does it contradict the widely held belief that homosexuality is unchangeable, but it demonstrates that change is prevalent in adolescence. Moreover, these young men and women experienced change without any known therapeutic or faith-based intervention. It was through “natural” life experiences.

This research seems too good to be true. Some might suspect this study was conducted by Christian investigators or comes from an obscure source. But the data is from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, a project by the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and mandated by the United States Congress. Its goal is to investigate adolescent health and is the largest and most comprehensive longitudinal survey of its kind.

The researchers that focused on sexual orientation published their findings in the reputable journal Archives of Sexual Behavior in 2007. In fact, they were so shocked by the amount of fluidity in sexual attraction that it caused them to question the concept of sexual orientation altogether.

Though these findings go against mainstream thinking, they come as little surprise to me. In fact, I wrote (co-authored with Greg Koukl) the most recent Solid Ground article titled, “Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?” Not only do I describe the causes of same-sex attraction in the piece, but I highlight some of the evidence that change is possible among adult homosexuals.

In addition to that article, this month Stand to Reason is publishing my latest book, The Ambassador’s Guide to Understanding Homosexuality. In it, I explain SSA and the possibility of change in more detail. I also cover questions about interpreting biblical passages on homosexuality, whether one can be a “gay” Christian, and explain how Christians are actually very tolerant. In addition, I devote a chapter to practical principles to improve your interaction with homosexuals as well as specific guidelines to answer difficult dilemmas you might face with homosexuals in the church, your family, and your friends.

I’m grateful you’ve stood with me financially this year as I’ve produced these written works. Without your partnership, the 45,000-person readership of Solid Ground would never learn this material. Plus, the book will serve as an even more comprehensive guide on this material. You and I both know this controversial topic must be engaged and not ignored.


REFERENCES:
* Savin-Williams et al., “Prevalence and Stability of Sexual Orientation Components during Adolescence and Young Adulthood,” Archives of Sexual Behavior, 2007.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; homosexulality

1 posted on 09/30/2013 12:33:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

So, the 80% of homosexuals who were assaulted as childrn couldn’t possibly return to normal?


2 posted on 09/30/2013 12:35:31 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: SeekAndFind

The pink mafia consistently shoots themselves in the foot with the “once gay, always gay” claim. For if it were true, then the “once straight, always straight” claim would be equally true. And the pink mafia steadfastly refuses to concede on such point.


3 posted on 09/30/2013 12:36:20 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: G Larry

Waiting for someone to explain to me how they were “gay” before they were assaulted.....


4 posted on 09/30/2013 12:36:27 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: SeekAndFind

Identical twin studies have shown it is not genetic.


5 posted on 09/30/2013 12:36:50 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: SeekAndFind

Could be that a certain number of people are “agnostic” when it comes to sexual selection preference and depending on indoctrination is where they will end up as.

Which is another good reason to not indoctrinate children into the homosexual lifestyle.

So even if we assume that a certain percentage of people are “born that way” either straight or gay, they are ignoring the fact that a certain percentage could very well be “sex selection agnostic” which can be used by the homosexual lobby groups to “colour their results” when they come out with their studies...

Funny how the liberals take the line of “Gay people are born that way unless they are not” a modern version of “sme aninmals are more equal than others”...


6 posted on 09/30/2013 12:38:42 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: G Larry

Back in the late 80’s, early 90’s “Lesbian Chic” was the all the rage on the music scene. Something to do with the total cocaine blowout, no doubt. It was a fad. Now the girls post Bible quotes to their Facebook pages.


7 posted on 09/30/2013 12:39:08 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: G Larry
For example, 75% of adolescent males with SSA at age 17 had opposite-sex attraction at age 22.

Further proof that once they actually try heterosexuality, most normal people are sold on it.

8 posted on 09/30/2013 12:39:09 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: huldah1776

You are right. It isn’t genetic and even the most generous studies have shown that predicting it between identical twins is no better than flipping a coin. There is far more correlation for IQ and even adultery than homosexuality.


9 posted on 09/30/2013 12:42:03 PM PDT by Maelstorm (The political class love diversity and choice only when the its choices they approve of.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Politics has overruled science, and reality.


10 posted on 09/30/2013 12:43:09 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The coprophiliacs can’t fathom that when one of a set of identical twins goes queer, why not the other? There is not a shred of evidence for a genetic basis for this deviant behavior, otherwise every behavior out of the normal would pose the same preposterous argument.


11 posted on 09/30/2013 12:50:14 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

so mental sickness is not curable then


12 posted on 09/30/2013 12:50:15 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Straight from the devil himself. This means that GOD created abominations.... liars the lot of them.


13 posted on 09/30/2013 12:51:23 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bullshit. No one is born a pervert. We ALL have choices to make in life? Will we drink, will we use drugs will we be a pervert.


14 posted on 09/30/2013 1:03:56 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: SeekAndFind

STR is a great organization. Been listening to them for about 20 years.


15 posted on 09/30/2013 1:04:29 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind
Change in sexual orientation is not possible

And yet, these very same people will tell you that some surgery and a lot of hormone pills CAN change whether you are a female or male.

16 posted on 09/30/2013 1:07:31 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: SeekAndFind; windcliff

Most of the homosexuals I know in my own age group were divorced as their children - who they dote on - grew up.


17 posted on 09/30/2013 1:12:24 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: LibertarianLiz

Ask them about people like Anthony Perkins and Sheryl Swoopes.

Both of these people, and many more like them who are not famous, cannot be explained by the homosexual community.


18 posted on 09/30/2013 1:18:50 PM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: SeekAndFind

After all, the “science is settled”.

Hmmmmm, heard that before....somewhere.......


19 posted on 09/30/2013 1:28:51 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


20 posted on 09/30/2013 1:42:54 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: skinndogNN

What are their stories?


21 posted on 09/30/2013 1:48:24 PM PDT by madameguinot
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To: madameguinot

Sheryl Swoopes grew up completely straight. Was 100 % sure she was straight, until she was engulfed into the culture of the WNBA. She then fell in love with a woman. They broke up a few years later.

Sheryl is now married to a christian man and says her time being gay was because she was just confused.

Anthony Perkins isn’t the best example since he was obviously gay, but he was able to be married for twenty years to a woman and had 2 sons with her.

But they are examples of culture having a greater effect on one’s sexuality than “how you were born”.


22 posted on 09/30/2013 2:17:14 PM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: SeekAndFind

I know hardcore queers would like to think that their pedophile converts are forever perverted, but it isn’t always so. Some of them overcome the damage done to them by perversion.


23 posted on 09/30/2013 2:23:24 PM PDT by pallis
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To: skinndogNN

Interesting. John Maynard Keynes- same story.


24 posted on 09/30/2013 2:47:40 PM PDT by madameguinot
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To: SeekAndFind
Excellent to keep this as a reference on the very high likelihood of reversal of adolescent homosexuality, even without therapeutic intervention.

It looks like a certain amount of homosexual dreaming or ideation is, for some, anyway, just a matter of immaturity.

But if kids start actually engaging in sodomy or mutual masturbation, it's --- I'm told --- a different story. The youth (male or female) becomes patterned or self-trained in that type of arousal behavior, and the longer they've been doing it, the hard it is to break out.

But with courageous struggle and grace, it can be done. Thanks be to God. Let's reach out and help these kids.

And I think an adult sodomizing an underage male should get 20 years in prison. Such a person should never have contact with a minor child again.

25 posted on 09/30/2013 4:30:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." - Jesus Christ - Matthew 19:17)
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To: SeekAndFind
Homosexuality, asexuality and bisexuality are CHOICES.

There is no GAY gene. There is no GAY gene. There is no GAY gene. There is no GAY gene. There is no GAY gene. There is no GAY gene. There is no GAY gene. There is no GAY gene. There is no GAY gene. There is no GAY gene.

26 posted on 09/30/2013 4:41:12 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: LibertarianLiz
Change in sexual orientation is not possible
And yet, these very same people will tell you that some surgery and a lot of hormone pills CAN change whether you are a female or male.

Well put.

27 posted on 09/30/2013 4:49:35 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: SeekAndFind

You will never hear this in the MSM.


28 posted on 09/30/2013 6:57:21 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Vigilanteman

There are a number of people who lived their adult lives straight, and then decided they were gay. Yet going the other way is impossible?


29 posted on 10/01/2013 3:24:11 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (this space for rent)
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To: SeekAndFind

This lie is the main reason most kids who identify as “gay” commit suicide, not bullying.

What a hopeless sentence of despair, if you believe the lie.


30 posted on 10/01/2013 5:49:14 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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