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World’s biggest shipwreck
Last Days Watchman ^ | Julio Severo

Posted on 09/19/2013 10:11:51 AM PDT by juliosevero


World’s biggest shipwreck

The sinking of Titanic and Wilhelm Gustloff in perspective

By Julio Severo

Even with their sophisticated, fast and high-powered news and information technology, modern humankind has a hard time to see or recognize proven facts.

One of those facts is that it is impossible to live without God and his values. Nazis tried, and they reaped bitter and destructive consequences. Communists tried, and they did and they do the same reaping. Both socialist ideologies were focused on man and based on the evolution theory, which dethrones God and enthrones man, or monkey.

Without God, tragedy is sure. In its inauguration in 1912, Titanic, which was the largest ship of its time, was greeted with the famous words, “Not even God can sink this ship.”

The ship sank, producing what is proclaimed today as the biggest sinking in the modern history.

However, this is not the whole true. There was a much bigger tragedy.

The world’s biggest shipwreck happened in the winter of 1945, right at the end of the World War II.

With the advance of the Soviet communist army over eastern Germany, millions of German civilians tried to flee from the furious red troops, who destroyed everything, killed and tortured, and raped all women and girls in their way.

Some were able to escape. So hundreds of thousands of German women, children and wounded tried the fastest way to flee for German areas out of Soviet sphere. German civilians were aware that this was their only hope to escape the sure fate of mass death, slavery and rapes in the hands of Soviet communists. Those unable to flee became total victims of the Soviet cruel fancies and depravities, and women and girls would be condemned to sexual tortures for years.

It is in this context of annihilation of civil populations that hospital ship Wilhelm Gustloff was escaping from the implacable Soviet invasion, carrying more than 9,000 people, mostly women and children. Half the way, in its desperate journey to reach western Germany, the civil ship will become the main character of the biggest silent shipwreck in the history.

In the dark and frozen night of January 30, 1945, the hospital ship is sighted by a Soviet submarine, which shoots three torpedoes, condemning thousands of women and children to death in waters 10 Celsius (14 Fahrenheit) below zero.

In the shipwreck of Titanic, 1,517 people died — a figure considered high.

Yet, in the sinking of the hospital ship Wilhelm Gustloff, 9,343 people perished.

Wilhelm Gustloff
The Soviet communist ideology — which did not believe in God and worshipped evolution theory — killed a huge crowd of defenseless women and children in cold blood. Did the fact that the Soviets were in war against Nazism — which equally despised the Bible and worshiped evolution theory — entitle them to kill innocent people?

But as Dostoyevsky, a Russian writer in the pre-communist era, said, “Without God, everything is possible.”

Contempt for God in the culture of the Union of the Soviet Socialist Republics made possible for their soldiers not to have any compassion for defenseless civilians. The sinking of the hospital ship Wilhelm Gustloff unavoidably brings to memory in an emphasized way the disrespect to the most basic human rights. The memory of Titanic saves socialists from that uncomfortable truth.

So the insistence of holding up the sinking of Titanic as the world’s biggest shipwreck seems to have the exclusive purpose of covering the fact that the true and only bigger shipwreck in the history was provoked by the cowardice of men moved by an ideology without God. The image of leftism, communism and socialism is thereby protected from the brutality of their actions. Nothing upsets more a leftist than truth.

In order to soften the terrible truth, liberal historians allege that many of the women belonged to SS — and possibly, children belonged to some kind of kid’s SS. (Possibly also, some Soviet soldier might have witnessed babies armed with machine guns and grenades!) Another excuse was that the Soviet submarine commander, because of the dark night, was unable to recognize that that enormous ship didn’t have the appearance of a warship. Supposedly, he was unable to know that it was a hospital ship carrying a crowd desperate civilians. However, it is known that in broad daylight Soviet airplanes, when sighting crowds of German civilians fleeing by the roads, shot them as in a competition for targets. In fact, even English and American soldiers, who were war prisoners of the Nazi in eastern Germany, were not spared from cruelties when captured by the Soviet army.

The communist inhumanity has been very well known. This is why during the anti-Communist military government in Brazil, the exiled leftist artists and politicians didn’t choose to live in Cuba, Soviet Union, North Korea or other socialist “paradise.” They opted for capitalist countries! For instance, former Brazilian Marxist president Fernando Henrique Cardoso chose exile in France. Gilberto Gil, in England. Why to choose exile in a socialist slum when they could opt for capitalist luxury?

With the purpose of not frightening the German population with the public disclosure of such a big loss before the Soviet advance, national socialist dictator Hitler ordered German press into silence over Wilhelm Gustloff’s sinking. Soviets never tried to break that silence by making a mass world advertising of their big feat of producing a disaster worse than the shipwreck of Titanic, because other nations could not have seen as honor the fact that Soviets were celebrating the sinking of a ship that, besides not representing any military danger to them, was rescuing desperate civil refugees.

For the socialists’ relief, the silence imposed by Hitler and the universal faith that Titanic was the world’s worst shipwreck keep Wilhelm Gustloff and communist cowardice in the basements of the forgetfulness in the world history.

Did the hospital ship Wilhelm Gustloff, with its enormous shipment of women and children, deserve to be willfully sunk? Nazism and communism deserved such sinking. Although Nazism (an acronym for national socialism) has been defeated, communism kept its march of blood and destruction, condemning to slavery, darkness and death millions of human beings, and many lies linked to socialism do not have still been sunken. On the contrary, every way of disinformation has been used to hide the cowardice of communist ideology.

In Brazil, we have reasons to give preference to the name Titanic. It is easier to remember than the complicated German name Wilhelm Gustloff. But the reasons of the Karl Marx religion sympathizers are others.

Everything that was necessary for Titanic to go down, with its 1,517 passengers, was an iceberg, provoker of the fatal accident. Everything that was necessary for Wilhelm Gustloff and its 9,343 passengers to perish in the sea was an implacable Soviet commander of frozen heart — a womanizer, an alcoholic man who would eventually go to prison for robbery. Being educated at atheistic schools of the secular Soviet State, he is an example of what Darwin’s evolutionist ideas and Karl Marx’s socialist ideas do in the heart, mind and soul of a man. Without God, every type of evil is made possible.

Worse than the shipwreck of Titanic is Wilhelm Gustloff’s sinking. And much worser than Wilhelm Gustloff’s sinking is the shipwreck of whole societies into the abysses of destruction of the chameleonic socialist ideology.

Do you want to know the final result of a society that is educated to despise the Bible and worship evolution theory, dethroning God and his values and enthroning Karl Marx, Hitler, Darwin or other men and their values? Look at what happened to Nazi Germany and the extinct Soviet Union: when human beings stop respecting God and start to believe that they came from a monkey, they become worse than wild beasts.

Portuguese version of this article: O maior naufrágio do mundo

Source: Julio Severo in English: www.lastdayswatchman.blogspot.com


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: shipwrecks; titanic; wilhelmgustloff; wwii

1 posted on 09/19/2013 10:11:51 AM PDT by juliosevero
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To: juliosevero

i thought they were talking about our govt..


2 posted on 09/19/2013 10:14:28 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: juliosevero

Was that supposed to be some form of Soviet exceptionalism? I think I like the American kind much better.


3 posted on 09/19/2013 10:16:52 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: juliosevero
and worshipped evolution theory

Pat Robertson challenges creationism

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/29/pat-robertson-challenges-creationism/

4 posted on 09/19/2013 10:19:29 AM PDT by DManA
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To: juliosevero
waters 10 Celsius (14 Fahrenheit) below zero.

Huh?

5 posted on 09/19/2013 10:23:12 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: juliosevero
The Eastern Front witnessed great brutality on both sides. The Nazis set the tone when they began to shoot Soviet prisoners of war and their Einsatzgruppen rolled across the Eastern Soviet Union shooting civilians, mostly Jews. As the Soviets pushed them back, they destroyed cities and killed many more civilians.

Yes, the Soviet soldiers responded with brutality and rape, but the Nazis could expect no quarter.

6 posted on 09/19/2013 10:23:43 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: juliosevero
From the article: "In the dark and frozen night of January 30, 1945, the hospital ship is sighted by a Soviet submarine, which shoots three torpedoes, condemning thousands of women and children to death in waters 10 Celsius (14 Fahrenheit) below zero. "

Sounds like an overt act of war to me. I think Germany should have immediately declared war against the Soviet Union.

7 posted on 09/19/2013 10:23:51 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: colorado tanker

Yup, no good guys on the Eastern Front. Just bad and worse.


8 posted on 09/19/2013 10:28:29 AM PDT by wbill
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To: T. P. Pole

lol

I think they need a better F to C chart

of course the ocean waters can be well below freezing without freezing, it’s salty and its always moving.


9 posted on 09/19/2013 10:29:06 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL; T. P. Pole

-10 C does = 14 F

But seawater begins to Freeze at -2 C.

They were likely talking about the recorded air temps at the time.


10 posted on 09/19/2013 10:37:46 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: colorado tanker
Yes, the Soviet soldiers responded with brutality and rape, but the Nazis could expect no quarter.

Let's be fair, the Soviets had a HUGE head start in mass killings and brutality over the Nazis; dating back into the '20s. The Nazis were just better at documenting it.

11 posted on 09/19/2013 10:39:44 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: thackney

right!

I should have thought of that


12 posted on 09/19/2013 10:41:06 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: juliosevero
Worse than the shipwreck of Titanic is Wilhelm Gustloff’s sinking. And much worser than Wilhelm Gustloff’s sinking is the shipwreck of whole societies into the abysses of destruction of the chameleonic socialist ideology.

Ping for later.

13 posted on 09/19/2013 10:43:00 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: juliosevero
And much worser than Wilhelm Gustloff’s sinking is the shipwreck of whole societies...

Worser? Then it really must be bad!

14 posted on 09/19/2013 10:45:30 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: juliosevero

The Nazis and Commies worshipped a G-d, just a different one.

Nazism was a combination of mercantilism with darwinism.
Fascism as practiced by Mussolini was mercantilism with a pretense of efficiency, though he really never did get the Italian trains to run on time.

Soviet Communism was based on Marxism which denies darwinism. The idea that some people are better than others at different jobs is anathema to marxists. If some were better, then they should be paid better, and that would be exploitation!


15 posted on 09/19/2013 10:47:02 AM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Worse than the shipwreck of Titanic is Wilhelm Gustloff’s sinking. And much worser is the...

And the much worserest is the wholesale slaughter of the English language, in print.

16 posted on 09/19/2013 10:55:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little Sgirl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: donmeaker

What about their belief in the evolving of the “New Soviet Man”?


17 posted on 09/19/2013 10:59:56 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

New Soviet Man was not darwinian evolution (variation followed by selection) it was Lamarkian (characteristics derived from exposture to the correct environment).


18 posted on 09/19/2013 11:06:37 AM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: donmeaker
Not according to Leon Trotsky.

Man will make it his purpose to master his own feelings, to raise his instincts to the heights of consciousness, to make them transparent, to extend the wires of his will into hidden recesses, and thereby to raise himself to a new plane, to create a higher social biologic type, or, if you please, a superman.

19 posted on 09/19/2013 11:13:55 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: juliosevero
I have a number of issues with this article. For one thing, Wilhelm Gustloff was not a hospital ship. It had served as such early in the war but was later converted to a military transport ship. It was also fitted with AAA batteries, making it technically a warship.

Also, if the water temperature had been 14 degrees below zero, the ship wouldn't have sunk because the sea would have been frozen.

The ship might not have been sunk had the skipper not turned on his navigation lights, a foolish thing to do in a war zone.

20 posted on 09/19/2013 11:19:16 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

It isn’t darwinian.

Nazis decided to murder the people they declared were ‘unfit’ or “life unworthy of life”. Before they murdered Jews, they murdered cripples, injured war veterans, the retarded. Variation first, then selection. At the concentration camps when they chose people to be murdered they called it selection.

Soviets had the idea that people could evolve on demand. They even produced false science whereby seeds were treated with cold water, and based on that would be resistant to a late frost. Total BS, but they published it, and put it into practice, and when frost killed crops, they covered it up.


21 posted on 09/19/2013 11:43:30 AM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Heinz Schön, who carried out extensive research into the sinking during the 1980s and 1990s, concluded that the Wilhelm Gustloff was carrying a crew of 173 (naval armed forces auxiliaries), 918 officers, NCOs, and men of the 2 Unterseeboot-Lehrdivision, 373 female naval auxiliary helpers, 162 wounded soldiers, and 8,956 civilians, among them an estimated 4,000 children, for a total of 10,582 passengers and crew.

Per wikipedia


22 posted on 09/19/2013 11:46:44 AM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: donmeaker

10,582 passengers?

Is that possible?


23 posted on 09/19/2013 11:49:03 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Fiji Hill

The ship left Gotenhafen early on 30 January 1945, accompanied by the passenger liner Hansa, also filled with civilians and military personnel, and two torpedo boats. The Hansa and one torpedo boat developed mechanical problems and could not continue, leaving the Wilhelm Gustloff with one torpedo boat escort, the Löwe. The ship had four captains (three civilian and one military) on board, and they could not agree on the best course of action to guard against submarine attacks. Against the advice of the military commander, Lieutenant Commander Wilhelm Zahn (a submariner who argued for a course in shallow waters close to shore and without lights), the senior civilian captain—Friedrich Petersen—decided to head for deep water. When he was informed by a mysterious radio message of an oncoming German minesweeper convoy, he decided to activate his ship’s red and green navigation lights so as to avoid a collision in the dark, making the Wilhelm Gustloff easy to spot in the night. The source or authenticity of this radio message was never confirmed and there was no oncoming German minesweeper convoy as it later turned out.

Because the Wilhelm Gustloff had been fitted with anti-aircraft guns it was not marked as a hospital ship (unlike the Soviet hospital ship Armenia incident in 1941), no notification of it operating in a hospital capacity had been given and, as it was transporting combat troops, it did not have any protection as a hospital ship under international accords

Per Wikipedia.


24 posted on 09/19/2013 11:49:13 AM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: GeronL

It wasn’t a luxury liner. It was packed with women, children, and naval personnel. Consider that a person takes up 6 square feet. 684 feet x 77 ft/ 6 ft = 8778 for one deck. It had 8 decks, so yes, it was full, but it is possible.


25 posted on 09/19/2013 11:59:22 AM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: juliosevero

I thought this was going to be about 0bamacare.


26 posted on 09/19/2013 12:00:33 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: juliosevero

Title is not what your subject is. “World’s Biggest Shipwreck” is the Costa Concordia at 114,000 tons.

If you are trying to say Most Deadly, or Most Costly in human life then say that.


27 posted on 09/19/2013 12:11:13 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I refer you to Lysenkoism. Lysenko-Michurinism was the centralized political control exercised over genetics and agriculture by Trofim Lysenko and his followers. Lysenko was the director of the Soviet Union's Lenin All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences. Lysenkoism began in the late 1920s and formally ended in 1964.

In 1928, Trofim Lysenko, a previously unknown agronomist, claimed to have developed an agricultural technique, termed vernalization, which tripled or quadrupled crop yield by exposing wheat seed to high humidity and low temperature. While cold and moisture exposure are a normal part of the life cycle of fall-seeded winter cereals, the vernalization technique claimed to increase yields by increasing the intensity of exposure, in some cases planting soaked seeds directly into the snow cover of frozen fields. In reality, the technique was neither new (it had been known since 1854, and was extensively studied during the previous twenty years), nor did it produce the yields he promised, although some increase in production did occur.

When Lysenko began his fieldwork in the Soviet Union of the 1930s, the agriculture of the Soviet Union was in a massive crisis due to rapid changes in switching from an agrarian-based economy towards an industrial economy leading to mismanagement of collective farms. The resulting famine provoked the people and the government alike to search for any possible solution to the critical lack of food. Lysenko's vernalization practices yielded marginally greater food production on the farms, and he was quickly accepted as the hero of Soviet agriculture.

Lysenko's political success was due in part to his striking differences from most biologists at the time. He was from a peasant family, and an enthusiastic advocate of the Soviet Union and Leninism. During a period which saw a series of man-made agricultural disasters, he was also extremely fast in responding to problems, although not with real solutions. Whenever the Party announced plans to plant a new crop or cultivate a new area, Lysenko had immediate practical suggestions on how to proceed.

So quickly did he develop his prescriptions — from the cold treatment of grain, to the plucking of leaves from cotton plants, to the cluster planting of trees, to unusual fertilizer mixes — that academic biologists did not have time to demonstrate that one technique was valueless or harmful before a new one was adopted. The Party-controlled newspapers applauded Lysenko's "practical" efforts and questioned the motives of his critics.

Lysenko's "revolution in agriculture" had a powerful propaganda advantage over the academics, who urged the patience and observation required for science.

From 1934 to 1940, under Lysenko's admonitions and with Stalin's approval, many geneticists were executed (including Isaak Agol, Solomon Levit, Grigorii Levitskii, Georgii Karpechenko and Georgii Nadson) or sent to labor camps. The famous Soviet geneticist Nikolai Vavilov was arrested in 1940 and died in prison in 1943.

Many other countries of the Eastern Bloc accepted Lysenkoism as the official "new biology" as well; however the acceptance of Lysenkoism was not uniform in communist countries. In Poland, all geneticists except for Gajewski followed Lysenkoism. Even though Gajewski was not allowed contacts with students, he was allowed to continue his scientific work at the Warsaw botanical garden. Lysenkoism was then rapidly rejected starting from 1956 and modern genetics research departments were formed, including the first department of genetics headed by Gajewski, which was started at the Warsaw University in 1958.

Czechoslovakia adopted Lysenkoism in 1949. Jaroslav Kříženecký (1896–1964) was one of the prominent Czechoslovak geneticists opposing Lysenkoism, and when he criticized Lysenkoism in his lectures, he was dismissed from the Agricultural University in 1949 for "serving the established capitalistic system, considering himself superior to the working class, and being hostile to the democratic order of the people", and imprisoned in 1958. In 1963, he was appointed head of the newly established Gregor Mendel department in the Moravian Museum in Brno, the city in which Gregor Mendel pursued his early experiments on inheritance and formulated the laws of Mendelian inheritance.

In the GDR, although Lysenkoism was taught at some of the universities, it had very little impact on science due to the actions of a few courageous scientists (for example, the geneticist and fierce critic of Lysenkoism, Hans Stubbe) and an open border to West Berlin research institutions. Nonetheless, Lysenkoist theories were found in schoolbooks until the dismissal of Nikita Khrushchev in 1964.

Lysenkoism dominated Chinese science from 1948 until 1956, when, during a genetics symposium opponents of Lysenkoism were permitted to freely criticize it and argue for Mendelian genetics.[8] In the proceedings from the symposium, Tan Jiazhen is quoted as saying "Since [the] USSR started to criticize Lysenko, we have dared to criticize him too". For a while, both schools were permitted to coexist, although the influence of the Lysenkoists remained large for several years.

Lysenkoism was promoted heavily by the Japanese Communist Party.

In 1948, genetics was officially declared "a bourgeois pseudoscience"; all geneticists were fired from their jobs (some were also arrested), and all genetic research was discontinued. Nikita Khrushchev, who claimed to be an expert in agricultural science, also valued Lysenko as a great scientist, and the taboo on genetics continued (but all geneticists were released or rehabilitated posthumously). The ban was only waived in the mid-1960s.

Per Wikipedia

28 posted on 09/19/2013 12:13:22 PM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: juliosevero
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If I don't believe that the universe was created October 23-28, 4004 BC, then I'm just like Hitler and Stalin.

Been there, heard that, got the t-shirt, don't wear it any more, man.

29 posted on 09/19/2013 12:13:28 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio es enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: donmeaker

The parallels to the Obama regime are interesting. Obama goes from one scandal to another, before one can be investigated, he is on to the next.


30 posted on 09/19/2013 12:15:54 PM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: donmeaker

These days I’m often startled to see someone on FR using basic math and common sense...excellent post!


31 posted on 09/19/2013 12:24:24 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: nascarnation

I only have a few tools at my disposal. I use them when I can.

My father was my high school math teacher. My mother taught high school English, and my grandmother was my high school French teacher.


32 posted on 09/19/2013 12:26:17 PM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: GeronL

Yup, 10,000+ is definitely possible.

The Cunard Queens (Mary and Elizabeth) were converted into troopships that could carry an entire Division of 15,000 men.

They also operated unescorted. They were fast enough (close to 30kts) to outrun any threat from u boats.


33 posted on 09/19/2013 12:32:53 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: juliosevero

>>>The communist inhumanity has been very well known. This is why during the anti-Communist military government in Brazil, the exiled leftist artists and politicians didn’t choose to live in Cuba, Soviet Union, North Korea or other socialist “paradise.” They opted for capitalist countries! For instance, former Brazilian Marxist president Fernando Henrique Cardoso chose exile in France. Gilberto Gil, in England. Why to choose exile in a socialist slum when they could opt for capitalist luxury?<<<

Cry me a river. Sinking of Gustloff was a justified act of war.
Critics has to mention it was a Criegsmarine military ship, painted navy grey, with armament, travelling blacked out as part of a convoy with other nazy warships. To make things worse, it was a floating base for U-boat crews, housing some thousand hazy navy officers.
Blaming Soviet navy is beyond stupid. Blame idiots who made so many civilians a target.


34 posted on 09/20/2013 8:55:43 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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