‘The Bible Belt is Collapsing’

PJ Tatler ^ | August 17, 2013 | Rick Moran

[deadrock]

Whether we like it or not, Nietzsche was correct.

[RoosterRedux]

I don't want you to go away. I have many fine Catholics in my family...and they are solid Christians (except for a few goddess worshipers).

I didn't know you were Catholic...so please forgive me for my criticism.

Christians come in all denominations...

[thesearethetimes...]

You wouldn’t happen to have atitle or a link would you, FRiend?

Thanks in advance ;)
Tatt

[RBStealth]

I wrote a review on Amazon for that book, it was so good I read it twice.

Most timely book of our time.
Goes beyond Richard Neuhaus “The Naked Public Square: Religion and Democracy in America” which itself was a book for its time in the 80’s and 90’s. Since that time we are becoming nearly banished from the public square and our influence for the culture.

[Vision Thing]

Yes, I should've linked to it in my original post.

Here you go:

How redefining marriage threatens freedom of speech

[ReformationFan]

Of course they are. Both abortions and marriage “redefinition” involve declaring war on the Genesis 1:27-28 principle and divorcing marriage from the procreative act. While I don’t deny the existence of individual homosexual persons who hold pro-life views, the homosexualist and pro-abortion ideologies are inextricably linked to an anti-Christian and anti-procreative mentality.

[RBStealth]

(except for a few goddess worshipers). I assume you are referring to Ishtar, Astarte, Ashteroth or Asherah?

[Vision Thing]

Nietzsche is nothing more than a charmer and entertainer, but he is incorrect.

And dead.

He died insane.

And on the third day, he did not rise again.

[RoosterRedux]

(except for a few goddess worshipers). I assume you are referring to Ishtar, Astarte, Ashteroth or Asherah?

And Semiramis!

They call her Mary, but syncretistically speaking, this is how they were convinced to join the Church...and they are still as active as ever.

I think it is called Marion worship today.

Co-redemptrix...

Semiramis redux, eh?

[Yardstick]

What I know is that the left has made its progress mostly through sheer willfulness. It certainly hasn't been because they're right. The fact is that the world we live in, the world that God has given to us, is highly responsive to human will. We can beat the left but not if we retreat to the status of martyrs being fed to the lions. We must be more willful than that.

[Solson]

Pretty soon Time magazine will declare ‘God is dead’. We haven’t lost the “culture war”. Natural law and Gods commandments cannot be defeated. Regardless of what mainstream America thinks.

[RoosterRedux]

Not sure what you mean...but a Christian walking into a den of lions knowing full-well he will be eaten is quite a testimony for God.

That takes quite a bit of faith and courage...and non-believers tend to stand up and take notice.

[steve86]

Hmmm, American "core values" seem to be more centered around money, status, money, stuff, money and, oh, yes, money, rather than around life, marriage and religious liberty.

Money, also. Don't forget money.

[RBStealth]

Never heard of Semiramis before.
You’ve added to my vocabulary, but as they say
‘Semiramis’ is not in the bible.

So I can’t exactly use it, but thanks all the same.
I notice you like taking pokes at my faith, which was not my intention with you.

I merely tried to have a sensible conversation with you concerning your statement about the Bible Belt being the unconquerable center of Christianity. Which is not biblically supported. Its regional-ethno-religious-centric thinking not in accord with the Bible and not even contestable by most or all Protestant Biblical scholars.
Bible 101 stuff.

Good bye

[Alex Murphy]

Ping to read later

[Yardstick]

The whole gay thing is a luxurious indulgence of a successful culture. If things got rough it would evaporate in a second. Abortion is different because it involves the morality of life and death of a person. I detest gay marriage but I find my arguments against it are mostly abstract, unlike my arguments against abortion. I think abortion is in a different category.

[cloudmountain]

Money, also. Don't forget money.

Lol.

Remember that movie CABARET, 1972, with Liza Minnelli, Michael York and Joel Grey? I remember that song sung: Money makes the world go 'round. Great song!!

[Liberty Wins]

Has the salt lost its savor?

[RBStealth]

With education comes knowledge.
All of this has been my religion/hobby/focus:

Experts agree that five stages of a coming persecution can be identified:

(1) The targeted group is stigmatized; its reputation is attacked, possibly by mocking it and rejecting its values.

(2) Then the group is marginalized, or pushed out of the mainstream of society, with deliberate efforts to limit and undo its influence.

(3) The third stage is to vilify the group, viciously attacking it and blaming it for many of society’s problems.

(4) Next, the group is criminalized, with increasing restrictions placed on its activities and eventually even its existence.

(5) The final stage is one of outright persecution.

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We are in the 4th stage, approaching the edges of the middle of the 4th stage. This is true for Republicanism but much more so for Christianity.

[Yardstick]

Oh I agree, walking into a den of lions is sure to leave an impression. But surely we’re not to that point yet. Christendom has advanced hugely over the thousands of years since then. It would be silly to drop all the way back to that trench.