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Are Atheists mentally ill?
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 08/17/2013 | Sean Thomas

Posted on 08/17/2013 8:29:34 AM PDT by Vanders9

Thanks to a couple of surveys, it’s being put about in certain circles that atheists have higher IQs than believers. That may or may not be the case, but one problem with this argument is that, if you accept "average group differences in IQ”, you get into all sorts of sinister debates which bien pensant atheist Lefties might find less to their liking.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: atheists; believers; happiness; iq
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To: Natufian

Your analogies are irrelevant without an accepted definition of God.


41 posted on 08/18/2013 1:32:55 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Vanders9

Evidence really isn’t a function of a belief system. The evidence that the earth is not flat is wholly independent of the belief systems of those who may continue to argue the opposite.

There’s no evidence that unicorns exist, hence my “un-belief” in unicorns. There’s nothing religious about that position. There’s nothing religious about my atheism.


42 posted on 08/18/2013 1:53:53 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Gene Eric

Do you have an accepted definition of everything you don’t believe in?


43 posted on 08/18/2013 1:56:30 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: All

Here is a tricky question.Would anyone believe in God if going to heaven was not in the equasion? If there is no heaven or hell, what would it matter? When some one can actually tell me where either one of these places exist I might change my mind.


44 posted on 08/18/2013 2:08:54 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: Natufian

Neither belief nor disbelief are conditional.


45 posted on 08/18/2013 2:36:59 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Then how do you judge the veracity of what people tell you?


46 posted on 08/18/2013 2:43:30 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

To judge, one must have unconditional beliefs; otherwise, the judgement is arbitrary.


47 posted on 08/18/2013 2:54:41 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

So when someone tells you something, you merely believe it or not unconditionally. You don’t weigh up the evidence, your prior knowledge, the known interests and truthfulness of the person?


48 posted on 08/18/2013 3:04:48 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

Given the implication of your question, what’s the point of weighing evidence without belief?

What you accept as fact is nothing more than belief. You believe that to be true, no?


49 posted on 08/18/2013 3:13:07 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

So you do apply conditions, it’s just that you think those conditions are facets of your belief system.


50 posted on 08/18/2013 3:17:11 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: freerepublicchat
A baby isn't yet capable of agency, and choice. They are therefore incapable of faith.

All sentient humans have a religious worldview.

All sentient humans must chose a God-centered, godless, or agnostic worldview. It is impossible to prove the existence or non-existence of God, therefore all three worldviews ( godless, agnostic, and God-centered) require faith. None of these states of belief are neutral in content or consequences for the individual or for the culture in which they live.

So.....My pet topic is education. It is also **impossible** to run a religiously neutral school. **NO** school is religiously neutral in its worldview or in its curriculum content or consequences for the child or the culture. For this reason ALL government schooling should be abolished and all education delivered privately.

51 posted on 08/18/2013 3:33:09 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Natufian

Sure, but what I think is not relevant as far as the conditions you believe I believe.

G’night :)


52 posted on 08/18/2013 3:34:02 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

then we agree on at least one shared ‘truth’!

Sleep well.


53 posted on 08/18/2013 3:37:25 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: freerepublicchat

Does a new born baby believe in God? What is a baby’s religion?
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I suspect that you are not asking this question in a spirit of goodwill.

I have also noticed that atheists here on Free Republic are among the biggest defenders of our nation’s system of police enforced godless government K-12 indoctrination.


54 posted on 08/18/2013 3:37:31 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: GraceG

No religion is devoid of rabid believers who visit misery on those who are not as rabid as they are.


55 posted on 08/18/2013 3:46:02 AM PDT by monocle
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To: freerepublicchat

“Does a new born baby believe in God? What is a baby’s religion?”

No, because it is unable to grasp the concept of it’s place in the universe.

It has no language to define what surrounds it.
It has no memory because it cannot define what it experiences in terms of language.
It seemly eats sleeps and poops like an animal.

Years ago an atheist raised a child without teaching it about God and shutting it off from any influences that might teach it about God.

The Child created by itself the concept of an omnipresent deity that created all things in the universe to explain the world it lived in.

Depending on your point of view this is proof that either God exists or atheists are right about man....


56 posted on 08/18/2013 3:50:28 AM PDT by usmcobra (Happiness is a belt fed weapon.)
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To: Natufian

yes, meaning atheists and unicorn non-believers are seriously ill? I guess that answers this thread.


57 posted on 08/18/2013 11:14:38 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

enjoy your ignorance.


58 posted on 08/18/2013 1:23:48 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

and enjoy your unicorns


59 posted on 08/18/2013 4:52:42 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

LOL I’m not the one that believes in them.


60 posted on 08/18/2013 11:51:07 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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