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Why Do Younger Evangelicals Put Happiness and Popularity Over Morality and Truth?
The Aquila Report ^ | 8-1-13 | Wintery Knight

Posted on 08/03/2013 7:10:24 AM PDT by ReformationFan

Christianity is not just about being happy and feeling good and being liked by others

What’s at the root of this movement to back away from moral issues? Here’s what I think is the problem. When you advocate for moral causes like protecting the unborn, or school choice, or freeing the slaves, a bunch of people are not going to like you. Christians in the time of Jesus knew that being bold about their Christian convictions would make a lot of people think bad things about them – they expected it. But young evangelicals have gotten the idea that being a Christian should not involve any sort of unhappiness and unpopularity. They wouldn’t have learned this from the Bible, because the Bible emphasizes suffering and unpopularity as part of the normal Christian life. It is their experience of church (and the hedonistic culture around them) that is likely to reinforce that view.

What young evangelicals learn in many churches is that religion is something that is centered on the Bible and the church building – it is not something that flows into real life. They learn that you can’t find out anything about God from the Big Bang, the DNA, the fossil record, or even from the peer-reviewed research on abortion, divorce, or gay marriage. They learn from the Bible that helping the poor is good, but then they never pick up an economic textbook to see which economic system really helps the poor. What you learn about in church is that religion is private and has no connection to reality whatsoever. This fits in with their view that Christianity should make them happy, because they’ve learned that it doesn’t involve any studying to connect the Bible to the real world.

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: christianity; culturewar; evangelicals; fearofman; happiness; homosexualagenda; morality; pinkjournalism; pravdamedia; truth; younger
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Good article.
1 posted on 08/03/2013 7:10:24 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

The headline contains the answer: They’re young.


2 posted on 08/03/2013 7:12:07 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: edpc
They’re young.

Prefrontal Cortex insufficiently developed

3 posted on 08/03/2013 7:26:37 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: ReformationFan
I like especially his emphasis on Natural Law (he doesn't use the term, but he incorporates some of it themes.)

If God is the Author both of Scripture and of Nature --- and above all, human nature -- then there must be truth embedded IN US which shows that God's Law is real, infinitely good, and valid for everybody.

That requires more than a wave of the hand and a "Tell it, Sistuh." It requires the hard work of thinking natural things all the way through, to where they open (by God's grace) onto the possibility of contact with the Presence of God.

I agree, good article.

4 posted on 08/03/2013 7:26:47 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just to Be is a Blessing; just to Live is Holy." - Rabbi Abraham Heschel)
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To: ReformationFan

bookmark


5 posted on 08/03/2013 7:32:31 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: ReformationFan

Because what is important to them is how mega their church is and the operating hours of the Starbucks in its basement.


6 posted on 08/03/2013 7:44:22 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: HangnJudge

Amen and Amen!


7 posted on 08/03/2013 7:48:09 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Fake BC Explained http://i41.tinypic.com/eqcn84.gif)
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To: ReformationFan

[Why Do Younger Evangelicals Put Happiness and Popularity Over Morality and Truth?]

Because that is what the ADULTS in their society did.

Because our President puts Happiness and Popularity over Morality and Truth.

Because every form of media communication they use puts Happiness and Popularity over Morality and Truth.

Because every commercial sells Happiness and Popularity at the cost of Morality and Truth.

Because every movie and TV show they watch puts Happiness and Popularity over Morality and Truth.


8 posted on 08/03/2013 7:55:10 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: ReformationFan

Temptations?


9 posted on 08/03/2013 8:00:00 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ReformationFan

Plain and simple it’s the choice of God’s commandments vs sin, heaven vs hell, Jesus vs Satan . . . . for EVERYONE!


10 posted on 08/03/2013 8:08:01 AM PDT by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: ReformationFan

They learn by watching their elders. This is not a NEW problem.


11 posted on 08/03/2013 8:33:36 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: edpc

I agree - because they’re young, and because they live in a society where about the worst thing that’s happened to them is being told “No” by their parents, not making a team, or not being invited to a cool party. This is generally true for young people whether they’ve been well-taught as Christians or not.

Eventually, life will kick them in the teeth, and then they’ll either seize hold of faith, morality, and truth ... or they won’t. But if they don’t the first time, God will keep giving them opportunities, right up to their last breath.

(Tax-chick, who got kicked in the teeth *and* whomped upside the head with a brick.)


12 posted on 08/03/2013 8:35:24 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: ReformationFan

The young? Lots of oldsters do too.


13 posted on 08/03/2013 8:36:59 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: ReformationFan

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14 posted on 08/03/2013 8:38:37 AM PDT by rsobin
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To: stars & stripes forever

They learn by watching period! Elders, siblings, teachers, media figures, etc. etc. etc.

Everyone should ask the questions? “Who is watching me? Who is being influenced by my actions good or bad.”

You just never know, sometimes until many years later, the lives you have impacted.


15 posted on 08/03/2013 8:42:18 AM PDT by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: ReformationFan

Thank you for posting this. It is becoming more and more evident that demanding that religion be relegated to the private sphere is one of the tactics in the culture wars. Christians should not be aiding the enemy in this.

It must be emphasized that being Christian is not like wearing a cloak that we take on and off; it is who we are and our world view and interactions with the world are formed by it. It means being a servant of the Truth, even to the risk of our lives-let alone to our popularity.

Christians should carry the sacred within them wherever they go. It is a challenge in a profane culture that props up so many idols. Our certain hope in Christ must never be forgotten.

I am Catholic and I know what happens when people profess a loyalty to a faith out of cultural or habitual comfort. They end up doing their best to twist it to meet the values of the world in order to be relevant. Don’t let that happen to these young Evangelicals. Fight for them. Remind them always of the Cross and why they believe. Remind them that Christ is the Truth that all other truths must be measured against. If it does not conform to Him, even if it may be factual, we must accept that it is not true.

Ours may be the last generation in this country to remember what religious freedom really meant. We must not make it easier for those who want that freedom to end.


16 posted on 08/03/2013 8:44:32 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: UCANSEE2

Instant gratification.

Lack of parental supervision and guidance on these matters. We can’t leave it all up to the ministers and the priests.


17 posted on 08/03/2013 8:52:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: UCANSEE2
These young men and women need to go to this site and read the stories.

In fact, it should be required reading for all young men and women.

Stand Up Girl

18 posted on 08/03/2013 8:57:33 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: UCANSEE2
Because they attended godless and socialist-entitlement K-12 schools and universities run by godless Marxists. And...In these godless schools they learned to think and reason godlessly. They had to just to cooperate in the godless and Marxist run classroom. How could it be otherwise?

And...Remember. Nearly every teacher in this nation from pre-K through graduate school was trained by godless Marxists in godless Marxist run schools.

Could **that** possibly be the reason that the rest of the culture that you listed is so rotten?

By the way, Christians and conservatives are **STONE COLD OBLIVIOUS*** to the danger the above poses to the eternal souls of their children and to this nation. I doubt God will save this nation when even Christians and conservatives do this to their children and allow this EVIL to continue.

19 posted on 08/03/2013 9:01:56 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: ReformationFan
What is the result of this anti-intellectual compartmentalization of faith?/p>

This is **exactly** what happens when children attend godless K-12 schooling ( private or government). They learn that their faith is something that is checked in at the door of their public life. Children in godless schooling will learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the godless classroom. How could it be otherwise?

Well, most young evangelicals interpret what their pastor is telling them as “our flavor of ice cream” or “our cultural preference”. They don’t link Christianity to the real world, they don’t think that it’s true for everyone.

I wonder. How many spouses of ministers work in the godless government schools? How many ministers are afraid to bite the hand putting money in the collection plate? In my county, godless government schooling is the largest single employer, with the largest payroll. Then there are all the vendors to the godless schools and their employees. No other industry in our county comes even close.

20 posted on 08/03/2013 9:11:47 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: lastchance

“Ours may be the last generation in this country to remember what religious freedom really meant.”

All the more to stand for righteousness.


21 posted on 08/03/2013 9:12:37 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: Salvation

Please read my posts #19 and #20.


22 posted on 08/03/2013 9:12:37 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

So you’ve stopped paying your taxes?


23 posted on 08/03/2013 9:20:57 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
If God is the Author both of Scripture and of Nature --- and above all, human nature -- then there must be truth embedded IN US which shows that God's Law is real, infinitely good, and valid for everybody.

The flaw in your statement is the introduction of the sin of Adam which spread to all of us.

24 posted on 08/03/2013 9:34:26 AM PDT by aimhigh (Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: goodwithagun

In many counties and even entire states, if conservatives and Christians simply removed their children from the government schools, the entire evil system would completely collapse.

Question: Why are you making this personal? Is it to discredit the message by seeking an opportunity to discredit the messenger? Marxists/fascist/Progs use that Alynski debating tactic.


25 posted on 08/03/2013 9:36:14 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: goodwithagun; wintertime
So you’ve stopped paying your taxes?

And stopped receiving Social Security and State pension as well

26 posted on 08/03/2013 9:36:51 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: goodwithagun
So you’ve stopped paying your taxes?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Have you stopped paying your taxes. Not only does some tax money go to fund godless schooling but some also finds its way to the pockets of Planned Parenthood and its abortion factories.

27 posted on 08/03/2013 9:38:24 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: verga

Please stop stalking me. Please no more posts to me.


28 posted on 08/03/2013 9:39:12 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: ReformationFan

2Tim 4:1 I charge [thee] therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2Tim 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Tim 4:4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


29 posted on 08/03/2013 9:39:15 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Telling the truth about RINOS, PAULTARDS, Liberals and Muslims has become hate speech)
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To: wintertime; metmom
Please stop stalking me. Please no more posts to me.

Metmom says I am required to give you a courtesy ping. That is not stalking. You need to stop crying wolf.

30 posted on 08/03/2013 9:41:45 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga

I consider these posts to be stalking. Please stop posting to me.


31 posted on 08/03/2013 9:48:31 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: aimhigh
You are quite right --- I didn't mean to omit that. The darkening of the mind and twisting of the will which are consequences of Original Sin, make it all the more difficult to discern what human nature is and what it is for. We are all prone to error in this regard.

That is why even people of ostensible intelligence don't even "get," for instance, that homosexuality is "abnormal" or that contraception is a sabotage of the human sexual design. Under the influence of Adam's sin, we are no longer even truly attuned to the natural, let alone the supernatural.

32 posted on 08/03/2013 9:49:51 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Reconciling all things to Himself, on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of His cross.")
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To: wintertime

My post was to point out hypocrisy. You condemn others for using public schools, yet continue to support them through your taxes. Have I stopped paying? No. I’m not the one on this thread screaming about public ed. You’re like those people who cry, “Our Founders would have been shooting by now!” Are these people taking up arms and marching on Washington? No.

I’m not disagreeing with your assertions about public ed and our Godless society, I’m just sick of people who “talk the talk but don’t walk the walk.” They’re no different than Boner, Lindsey, and McShame.


33 posted on 08/03/2013 10:00:06 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: wintertime

And I’m truly not taking it personally. Based on your posts that would be you. My tactics are certainly not Alinsky-esque. As I originally posted back to you, I’m simply sick of the bellyaching by those who call for drastic measures via the Internet from the comfort of their living rooms.


34 posted on 08/03/2013 10:04:34 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Do you pay your taxes even though some of goes to Planned Parenthood and its abortion factories? Just wondering?

However....It is a fact that government ( which is by law godless and Marxist dominated) would completely and immediately collapse in many counties and even some entire states if conservatives and Christians simply removed their children.

That is a fact, regardless of whether you and I pay our taxes.

And....I do wonder. The author of this article is concerned about the increasing “compartmentalization” of the faith of young people. Of the ministers he is complaining about, how many of them have spouses working in godless schools? What percentage of their congregations directly or indirectly gain a living from godless schools?


35 posted on 08/03/2013 10:08:07 AM PDT by wintertime
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Christianity is not just about being happy and feeling good and being liked by others

Carl Trueman and Todd Pruit, the Mortification of Spin podcast, on "Happiness Questing".

Worth a listen.

36 posted on 08/03/2013 10:13:59 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means.")
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To: Tax-chick
I agree - because they’re young, and because they live in a society where about the worst thing that’s happened to them is being told “No” by their parents, not making a team, or not being invited to a cool party. This is generally true for young people whether they’ve been well-taught as Christians or not.

Eventually, life will kick them in the teeth, and then they’ll either seize hold of faith, morality, and truth ... or they won’t. But if they don’t the first time, God will keep giving them opportunities, right up to their last breath.

(Tax-chick, who got kicked in the teeth *and* whomped upside the head with a brick.)

We're having a bad summer here, ourselves.

Seriously, give a listen to that "Mortification of Spin" episode I just linked to.

37 posted on 08/03/2013 10:16:46 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means.")
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To: humblegunner
However....It is a fact that government ( which is by law godless and Marxist dominated) would completely and immediately collapse in many counties and even some entire states if conservatives and Christians simply removed their children.

A thread that you might be interested in commenting on.

38 posted on 08/03/2013 10:39:19 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: UCANSEE2; Mrs. Don-o
Happiness and Popularity over Morality and Truth.

Of one thing I’m certain, the influence exerted on me by Alexander Solzhenitsyn is incalculable.

39 posted on 08/03/2013 10:59:04 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: verga

I’d better not.

I think I may be developing one of those allergies to nuts.


40 posted on 08/03/2013 11:15:54 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: ReformationFan

Actually, I see young people in our church who have a lifestyle of sacrificing for others. They impress this sexagenarian a lot.


41 posted on 08/03/2013 11:56:54 AM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Yes. If you won’t stand for something you will fall for anything.


42 posted on 08/03/2013 12:13:51 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: wintertime

I wish more people realized that the only thing that matters in the end is the state of our souls and the souls of our children. We are rearing children for Glory. We don’t always succeed but that does not excuse us from remembering the eternal.


43 posted on 08/03/2013 12:15:43 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: ReformationFan

Lack of solid doctrine.


44 posted on 08/03/2013 12:17:25 PM PDT by Gamecock (Member: NAACAC)
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Why single out Evangelicals? The majority of folks in this country who claim to be Christian do the same.

45 posted on 08/03/2013 12:28:31 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: wintertime; goodwithagun
"Question: Why are you making this personal?"

Now that is pure Alynsky in response to a comment that didn't "make it personal" but that Alynsky didn't want to answer. Accuse your opponent of what you yourself are doing.

Interesting.

46 posted on 08/03/2013 12:33:39 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: goodwithagun; Rashputin
So you’ve stopped paying your taxes?( goodwithagun post #23)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is a personal question directed at **me** about **my** taxes. I call that “making it personal”.

This an Alinsky debating technique often used to discredit ( as a hypocrite) the messenger of a true statement in attempt to discredit, hide, or distort the true message.

Impersonal Truth: In many counties even some entire states, if conservatives and Christians simply removed their children, the entire system of godless government owned and run socialist-entitlement schooling would utterly and completely collapse!

Opinion: I doubt that God is pleased that innocent children are being forced into government institutions where they are forced to think and reason godlessly. (These children must just to cooperate in the godless classroom. )I would expect that He is especially displeased with Christians and conservatives who do this to their children since Christians and conservatives should know better.

Opinion: Christian children who attend godless schools will learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate with the indoctrination ( oops! “instruction”) In my opinion this is a MAJOR reason young adults are capable of “compartmentalizing” their faith. The major point of the article.

47 posted on 08/03/2013 12:58:34 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Lee N. Field

Thanks, I will.


48 posted on 08/03/2013 1:03:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: ReformationFan

I had a debate with someone about whether people who were anti-abortion were anti-sex. When I say debate, I mean I said things and gave evidence and he acted like a baby. The closest he came to actually making an argument or point is, “Using abortion data from 50 years ago, preposterous.” After I finished with him, someone else entered and said things that made it clear all (s)he wanted to do was to have lots of sex and complained that her school did not teach sex ed properly.


49 posted on 08/03/2013 1:19:43 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3
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To: goodwithagun

“Because what is important to them is how mega their church is and the operating hours of the Starbucks in its basement.”

In all fairness I have seen this.


50 posted on 08/03/2013 1:51:18 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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