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Cardinals GM Orders Cross Honoring Musial To Be Removed From Mound
CBS St. Louis ^ | July 8, 2013 | none

Posted on 07/08/2013 10:44:34 AM PDT by Defiant

The St. Louis Cardinals general manager ordered a cross carved into the pitcher’s mound to be removed following a fan complaining about the religious symbol to local newspapers.

Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak asked the grounds crew to remove the cross and not to put the religious symbol on the mound again after learning of the practice from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

“It’s not just club policy to be putting religious symbols on the playing field or throughout the ballpark,” Mozeliak told the Post-Dispatch. “I didn’t ask for the reason behind it. I just asked for it to stop.”

(Excerpt) Read more at stlouis.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: cardinals; christianity; stlouis
Sad that he feels the need to do this. I hope the pitchers dig their own cross into the dirt. I would not be surprised to see lots of crosses hanging from the rafters at the stadium for the next home game. Maybe they should take the "St. Louis" out of the team's name, too, since it glorifies a Christian saint. Call them the Rivertown Cardinals.
1 posted on 07/08/2013 10:44:34 AM PDT by Defiant
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To: Defiant

Why not rename the team the PC Cardinals?


2 posted on 07/08/2013 10:47:47 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Defiant

The old St. Louis Browns actually used a picture of St. Louis himself as a logo for some time.


3 posted on 07/08/2013 10:48:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: txrefugee

Mozeliak has just seen to it that God will remain a Pirates fan for the remainder of this season.


4 posted on 07/08/2013 10:49:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Defiant

He should call the the Rivertown Browns because the history page says the original reference to Cardinals is a religious one as the bird came around 34 years later.


5 posted on 07/08/2013 10:50:36 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Defiant

Wonder if they remove it will a curse will be cast upon the birds on the bat. Hell, the cubs are still suffering a goat curse 68 years later.


6 posted on 07/08/2013 10:51:19 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: Defiant
They wouldn’t do this is it was an Islamic crescent. Fear is a great motivator and deterrent. The GM needs to see a push back against this decision.
7 posted on 07/08/2013 10:54:36 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Defiant

May this bow to political correctness do the same to the St. Louis Cardinals that trading Babe Ruth did to the Red Sox.


8 posted on 07/08/2013 10:56:40 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Defiant
"A fan"? One person complained and they scramble to remove the "offending" item?

When will people realize that being "offended" is going to destroy freedom of speech? Maybe when we all, everyone of us, get offended at the tiniest, stupidest things we can possibly think of, maybe then people will hang up their obamaphones and say, "enough is enough!".

Maybe, but probably only when someone gets "offended" at something the low info voter/person holds dear.

9 posted on 07/08/2013 10:57:28 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Defiant

Christapobia. How else to explain this reaction to a single fan. The complainer wasn’t even a likely fan.


10 posted on 07/08/2013 10:57:30 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Defiant
And every batter should cross himself before he enters the batter's box. Oh wait, most of them already do.

The Godless fascists who are trying to regulate Christ out of the public square are only going to make the reaction against their tyranny stronger. The specific campaign against Catholic charities, education, and conscience is likewise eliciting a level of sympathy and cooperation among Christians of all stripes that would probably have struck our ancestors as unthinkable.

So let them sow the wind. We know what they will reap.

11 posted on 07/08/2013 10:59:21 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: massgopguy

Saint Louis - Roman Catholic term and historical figure
Cardinals - Roman Catholic clerical office
John Mozeliak - St. Louis Cardinals GM
John - best friend of Christ
Mozeliak - Moze = Moshe = drawn from water = Jewish
guy who led the Hebrews out of Egypt


12 posted on 07/08/2013 11:14:05 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Defiant

What a bunch of garbage. I s’pose the team will hurl headfirst into celebrating SODOMY, though, when ordered to by the Commish.


13 posted on 07/08/2013 11:14:34 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Defiant

Well y’know what? I’m offended by that athiest being offended. I demand you remove him from the stadium for the rest of the season.


14 posted on 07/08/2013 11:16:44 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Defiant

NAME THE ‘FAN’ SO THEY MAY BE PUBLICLY SHAMED!


15 posted on 07/08/2013 11:18:32 AM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Defiant
In related news, the Pittsburgh Penguins will be changing their name to The Pittsburgh Puffins.

Blues Brothers

16 posted on 07/08/2013 11:22:52 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("...Someone handed the keys to the Forum to the OPC and its sympathizers...")
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To: Defiant

They should also re-name the team since “cardinals” could easily be mistaken for the Catholic clergy. They should also stop taking all that money with “In God We Trust” written on it.


17 posted on 07/08/2013 11:32:33 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: Defiant

Isn’t it just some groundskeeper guy etching the cross and number in the sand? Maybe the Pitcher will now etch it with his clete, how about that wimpy GM?


18 posted on 07/08/2013 11:35:18 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: montag813
NAME THE ‘FAN’ SO THEY MAY BE PUBLICLY SHAMED!

Bartman?

19 posted on 07/08/2013 11:38:00 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross
NAME THE ‘FAN’ SO THEY MAY BE PUBLICLY SHAMED!

Probably the same guy with the tinfoil ballcap who spends five innings wandering around pestering all the beer vendors for a Falstaff.


20 posted on 07/08/2013 11:51:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

God does not like Pirates. He does like pretty little birdies.


21 posted on 07/08/2013 12:37:42 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I would rather the curse be upon the GM than the team. The Red Sox deserved their curse; it was the owner who traded Babe Ruth. I don’t recall who caused the Cubs to be cursed, but judging by their fans, it was also well-deserved.....


22 posted on 07/08/2013 12:39:18 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I’m hoping that the pitchers do that. It should be up to the pitchers, really. You wouldn’t want it there for Sandy Koufax. But the GM shouldn’t be getting involved, either. It’s just a nice little thing that the groundskeeper was doing, and there was no publicity about it until some troublemaker saw it and was “offended”.


23 posted on 07/08/2013 12:42:29 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Defiant

The Cardinal fans are probably among the best fans in baseball. They demonstrate this at each game with their vast array of Cardinal jerseys and caps. What a tribute if all the Christian fans started wearing a cross in honor of Stan the Man for the rest of the year.


24 posted on 07/08/2013 12:50:04 PM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: Defiant

Christophobes are so superstitious.


25 posted on 07/09/2013 2:46:00 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Defiant

Wasn’t Musial a liberal Democrat?


26 posted on 07/09/2013 7:25:47 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: ViLaLuz

Very true. They fear the cross that they believe has no significance.


27 posted on 07/09/2013 8:11:36 AM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I have no idea what Musial’s politics were. I don’t recall ever seeing him involved with political issues, which is how it should be for athletes and entertainers.


28 posted on 07/09/2013 8:12:58 AM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Defiant
I have no idea what Musial’s politics were. I don’t recall ever seeing him involved with political issues, which is how it should be for athletes and entertainers.

I think he was a big Kennedy supporter. I apologize if I'm mistaken.

29 posted on 07/09/2013 10:46:05 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Supporting Kennedy in 1960? Seriously, I should dislike him because of that? That makes him a conservative Republican today.


30 posted on 07/09/2013 11:41:28 AM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

He met Kennedy only once according to his biographer. He did take part in a celebrity tour promoting Kennedy for Prez, but it really does seem he did so more out of Catholic loyalty than keen interest in politics. He was much more noticed for his Catholicism than his politics. Given his religion, age, and military service, it’s not surprising if he was an FDR Democrat. Not many weren’t.


31 posted on 07/09/2013 12:00:52 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Mozeliak has just seen to it that God will remain a Pirates fan for the remainder of this season.

AMEN!!!

ARRR!!!


32 posted on 07/09/2013 12:56:04 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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