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Suicide at Notre Dame a Warning to the West
Crisis Magazine ^ | June 18, 2013 | Marjorie Jeffrey

Posted on 06/18/2013 2:34:06 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

File it under “Suicide of the West.”

It’s a very long book.


41 posted on 06/18/2013 4:58:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: svcw

Yeah, I didn’t get past the first paragraph:

“The mainstream American right has remained almost entirely silent about the recent suicide of the French historian, Dominique Venner. The reasons for this, I do not know—perhaps it is a squeamishness . . . or a lack of understanding . . . Perhaps it is a refusal . . .”

Why are these the only options? Maybe it was meaningless and trivial.

Sorry, but suicides occur every day. Ignoring them is not a vast right-wing conspiracy.


42 posted on 06/18/2013 5:15:49 PM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: svcw

“Venner shot himself . . . . The image of this act ought to make us pause in awe.”

Are your freaking kidding me?

I now rest my case.


43 posted on 06/18/2013 5:16:50 PM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: TradicalRC

Yes, he missed the pointy of Christ entirely. He did not accept Him as his personal savior.


44 posted on 06/18/2013 5:56:53 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Nicely put. By “finest” do you suppose the guests were referring to the vintage or the orchard?


46 posted on 06/18/2013 6:02:27 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: All

If a luminary in this country were to kill themselves to draw attention to the twin evils of abortion and homosexuality do you suppose we would get the same glib commentary that has infected this thread?


47 posted on 06/18/2013 6:09:52 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: NYer
Thanks for posting this.

I have been running a short series by Venner following this tragedy:

The reasons for a voluntary death
The revolt of the mothers
“Man must sacrifice his life” – interview with Dominique Venner
The Century 1914

I think, his death, while a sin was also a heroic act; we ought to at least learn about his thinking and heed his warning, as after Europe falls, we are next.

48 posted on 06/18/2013 6:11:19 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Perhaps we would, to answer your question, because as the Left often points out, American conservatives (at least, many here) don’t value thinkers and philosophers such as Dominique Venner.

Just trying to live down to the stereotypes, that’s all.


49 posted on 06/18/2013 6:15:25 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: blueunicorn6

Your post 19 was on the real subject. For some reason Freepers just want to ventilate about their views on suicide. Summary: it’s never appropriate in their minds.


50 posted on 06/18/2013 6:17:29 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Chad N. Freud

Are you replying to me?

This is what I said:
People commit suicide everyday, each is tragic in its own right......the person who kills themselves is not inherently special they are disturbed.
Why would nay media cover the act? (Yes, I read the article)

I do not get your reply.


52 posted on 06/18/2013 6:32:12 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Yes.
It would not be glib or whiny or infectious.....it would be brilliant.
It appears you are the only on whining.


53 posted on 06/18/2013 6:35:37 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: svcw
...neither Catholic nor formally pagan...

ergo Pagan + Catholic = Pathogen!

54 posted on 06/18/2013 6:50:42 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Good deal, you came up with a name. I have been trying to figure that out.


56 posted on 06/18/2013 6:54:46 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: svcw

I rest my case. Send it to the jury.


57 posted on 06/18/2013 6:55:55 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

OMG!!! Get a clue dude.


59 posted on 06/18/2013 6:56:41 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: Revolting cat!

There is a point beyond which reasonable discourse becomes impossible. This is, however, the Religious Forum. A certain decorum should be expected.


60 posted on 06/18/2013 6:59:39 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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