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Suicide at Notre Dame a Warning to the West
Crisis Magazine ^ | June 18, 2013 | Marjorie Jeffrey

Posted on 06/18/2013 2:34:06 PM PDT by NYer

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To: kaehurowing

Amen
Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.


21 posted on 06/18/2013 3:26:47 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: austinaero

Well put.


23 posted on 06/18/2013 3:34:39 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: NYer

I’m sorry about the fella, but despair is a sin. No matter how bad things are socio-politically, we can receive Faith, Hope, and Love through the Holy Spirit, and we can live Faith, Hope, and Love in any circumstances.


24 posted on 06/18/2013 3:37:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Does Bill have a job yet?)
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To: webheart

I just love it when freepers would rather play games of gotcha over typos...than engage in meaningful dialogue...

I do suppose however that sending Jesus to pay for our sins was actually akin to sending in the cavalry...only the sacrifice occurred at calvary!


25 posted on 06/18/2013 3:37:51 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: blueunicorn6

Great article, thoughtless, ignorant comments.


26 posted on 06/18/2013 3:44:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: NYer

Venner’s death will have but one reaction — Muslims will be high-fiving each other.

Venner did not accomplish what he had hoped for. Sadly enough, he will be forgotten tomorrow.


27 posted on 06/18/2013 3:45:39 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

He loved Christianity merely as a cultural idea. Which means he missed the point of Christ entirely.


28 posted on 06/18/2013 3:46:39 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: webheart

When I read that, I had a sudden image of the Lord on horseback...then had to quickly repent of impious and blasphemous thoughts.


29 posted on 06/18/2013 3:47:57 PM PDT by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: blueunicorn6

Yep. There are many who would rather a holy temple be used for satanic rites than burned to prevent its abuse.


30 posted on 06/18/2013 3:51:49 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

Make that “be permanently turned over for satanic rites”, rather that “used”. Used implies that it could be recaptured.


31 posted on 06/18/2013 3:55:00 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: NYer; All

I am living in France.
I heard about his suicide, and immediatley questioned anyone’s claim to “a culture”.

So, picture Notre Dame, in Paris.
Pretty much takes up the entire skyline, based off what angle you are viewing it from, right?

Now...picture a mosque, BIGGER than Notre Dame, being built directly adjacent to it...like it or not, that’s what’s gonna happen...look it up.

I don’t support or endorse suicide, at all, but they guy’s got a point, OK? An affront to history is an affront to history.


32 posted on 06/18/2013 3:57:04 PM PDT by baltodog (R.I.P. Balto: 2001(?) - 2005)
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To: NYer

To me, there was instantly and undercurrent to this story that wasn’t covered at all.

Either this man had homosexual children who were being led astray or a homosexual wife who was choosing to live with another woman rather than with him.

Very sad story.


33 posted on 06/18/2013 4:00:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Why did you post this? The article has faulty thinking from beginning to end.


34 posted on 06/18/2013 4:01:11 PM PDT by LovedSinner
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To: Salvation
and undercurrent
35 posted on 06/18/2013 4:05:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: blueunicorn6

**they would have complained about the vintage and given everyone a dissertation on their knowledge of how the weather affects wine.**

LOL! So true.


36 posted on 06/18/2013 4:15:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

1. He was French.

2. What kind of arrogance would one possess to comit such an act of sacrilege and force his act on the rest of us?

Bad enough he took his own life but, as far as I’m concerned good riddance


37 posted on 06/18/2013 4:15:38 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: NYer; wideawake
So this Venner didn't believe in chrstianity, or even in European paganism, but merely honored them because they were the creation of "his people?" I can't think of a greater example of hollow self- and ancestor-worship.

The Right, especially the "Palaeo" Right, is full of this type of subjective ethnolatry. Venner's words show that, like any liberal atheist, his ideals were mere groundless constructs of his own mind and his own choosing.

Unfortunately, it is ingrained into us to think of various ethno-cultures creating various religions from their own unique worldviews and that this conflict is the heart of everything that happens on earth. Not to sound like a liberal, but in reality we really are a single race, descended from Adam and Eve, with a single Objective Moral Code from the One True Objective G-d. What we need is not the triumph of this civilization or that one, but for all mankind to commit to G-d and His Laws.

38 posted on 06/18/2013 4:40:14 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: TradicalRC
He loved Christianity merely as a cultural idea. Which means he missed the point of Christ entirely.

European Rightwingery in a nutshell!

And we have a lot of "civilizationist" palaeocons here in the US who are just like them.

39 posted on 06/18/2013 4:46:32 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I shudder for France and pray for Paris. Sparks come in many ways.


40 posted on 06/18/2013 4:46:46 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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