[haffast]

Some bishops (even Vatican bureaucrats) are manipulating the “consistent ethic of life” as justification for gun control.

The Chruch’s teachings on self defense are crystal clear, and recent bishops’ opinions do not trump the magisterial teachings of Popes and the Catechism.

Maybe you should make Cardinal McCarrick (appt. by JPII) and Cardinal Dolan (appt. by PEBXVI) aware of their faulty understanding of the Catechism?

You are manipulating the "teachings on self defense" as justification for gun ownership.

There are no "crystal clear", clearly worded, definitive statements on the private ownership of "small arms" or guns either way, and is left vaguely open to interpretation. If there are, please produce them (you would already have).

I refer you again to the evidence I presented. You don't have to agree with those people, they don't agree with you.

Their actions speak louder than "teachings".

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[Mrs. Don-o]

You to gentlemen seem to be in agreement on the main points: namely, that the Catechism clarifies that force, even lethal force, can be used in the defense of self or of others; and that Cardinals McCarrick and Dolan are acting outside of their competence in making political policy declarations against private firearms.

Moreover, acting "outside of their competence" is what the public policy departments f the USCCB do "all de live-long day."

What we all object to, strongly ---- and rightly --- is that these prominent Catholics are not Catholic enough.