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New outreach to Catholics as Biden meets with Cardinal Timothy Dolan in New York [Communion/Coffee]
IrishCentral ^ | March 25, 2013 | JAME O'SHEA

Posted on 03/26/2013 8:38:07 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Vice President Joe Biden attended mass and received communion on Sunday at St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York where the mass was celebrated by Cardinal Timothy Dolan.

At a time when the administration is being sued by Dolan and the Catholic Bishop’s Conference over the Obama health care provision on birth control, the meeting was seen as an attempt to create a new dialogue.

An Irish American Catholic, Biden receiving communion was also seen as significant. Dolan’s predecessor Cardinal Edward Egan refused to give communion to those who differed with the church on the abortion issue.

Biden says he is pro-life but will not seek to impose his views on others.

Biden met with Cardinal Dolan after the mass for coffee but what they discussed was not made public.

Biden’s latest move comes at a time when the Obama administration appears to be using the VP in a new outreach to American Catholics.

Biden represented the administration at the swearing in of Pope Francis in Rome where he again received communion. He was also inaugurated into the Irish America Hall of Fame last week, also in New York, attended by many leading Irish American Catholics.

Meanwhile, Dolan revealed that he had many stories to tell about the papal conclave.

"You know I just got back from three historic weeks in Rome, and you better get used to hearing a lot of stories about those three weeks," Dolan said.

"It was quite an experience, to hear the first-hand stories of how they chose the pope and special inside information we got, it was truly a delight," said a woman who attended the Mass.

Palm Sunday is among the most significant of the Catholic holy days and begins Holy Week which ends with Easter Sunday.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics; Worship
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Vice President Joe Biden attended mass and received communion on Sunday at St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York where the mass was celebrated by Cardinal Timothy Dolan. At a time when the administration is being sued by Dolan and the Catholic Bishop’s Conference over the Obama health care provision on birth control, the meeting was seen as an attempt to create a new dialogue....Biden met with Cardinal Dolan after the mass for coffee but what they discussed was not made public.

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1 posted on 03/26/2013 8:38:07 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Biden, this half baked, pro abortion political hack never should have been able to receive communion. Dolan missed a golden oppurtunity to make a statement.


2 posted on 03/26/2013 8:41:07 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: Alex Murphy

I would not have thought Cardinal Dolan would do that. This is very disappointing.


3 posted on 03/26/2013 8:44:28 AM PDT by Hilda
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To: Alex Murphy
Stop funding and supporting abortion. End of dialogue.
4 posted on 03/26/2013 8:44:32 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Hilda

power corrupts absolutely


5 posted on 03/26/2013 8:51:09 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Hilda
I would not have thought Cardinal Dolan would do that. This is very disappointing.

Maybe Biden received from an EM instead of directly from Cardinal Dolan ... the article doesn't specify.

6 posted on 03/26/2013 8:51:27 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: kenmcg
Dolan missed a golden opportunity to make a statement.

As he always will. Witness his pathetic performance in addressing the convention. He's a wise-cracking, Democrat cave-in artist. A clerical O'Reilly.

7 posted on 03/26/2013 8:52:29 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: Alex Murphy

Very disappointing, indeed. Meet any time for discussion, yes. There is always hope of repentance and reconciliation.

But, offer him Communion when he has failed to repent of a public mortal sin of the most vicious kind, no.

No better than McCain-style “reaching across the aisle,” i.e., giving in to your opponent, although you know he is horribly wrong.


8 posted on 03/26/2013 9:06:29 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: kenmcg

Who is the bigger hypocrite, Joe or the Cardinal?


9 posted on 03/26/2013 9:17:07 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: al_c

Whoever Biden received Communion from, Dolan’s policy of defying Canon Law is well-publicized.

This was a pre-arranged meeting for coffee as well as Mass. Dolan had the opportunity and obligation to tell Biden not to receive Communion.

The basic fact is glaring: Dolan believes that being a Cardinal puts him above Canon Law and the divine law which is expressed in Canon Law: It is a mortal sin to give Communion to a person who obstinately persists in a situation of manifest grave sin. http://tinyurl.com/canon915


10 posted on 03/26/2013 9:20:37 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Coldwater Creek

The Cardinal. It is a much greater sin to pretend to be a Cardinal than to pretend to be a Catholic.


11 posted on 03/26/2013 9:22:26 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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I’m not Catholic, but as a Christian, I dearly hope that the Roman Catholic faith will make a defiant stand regarding this issue and start refusing to minister to willful sinners who commit and support such grievous acts.


12 posted on 03/26/2013 9:32:33 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: al_c

That differs how? Core beliefs should not be subject to wriggle room or loopholes. Backsliding is backsliding and it destroys credibility.


13 posted on 03/26/2013 9:41:47 AM PDT by 1malumprohibitum
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To: Alex Murphy
>> Biden says he is pro-life but will not seek to impose his views on others. <<

Sure, and John Breckenridge was "personally" anti-slavery but opted not to impose his views on others.

14 posted on 03/26/2013 9:42:58 AM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Alex Murphy

You can fool some of the people some of the time, or all of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool God.


15 posted on 03/26/2013 9:43:44 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Coldwater Creek

The media has done a great job falely presenting Cardinal Dolan as a traditional Catholic.They know they have a very useful puppet.Cardinal Dolan is a liberal Democrat,who will do almost anything to bolster his legacy with liberal press. Thank goodness Cardinal Dolan is not leading the pro-life movement.I firmly hope and pray that some day he sees the media and Obama for what they are.


16 posted on 03/26/2013 9:44:03 AM PDT by ardara
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To: Alex Murphy

Our world has no moral compass.

We have no functioning constitution and it would seem the Catholic Church has no rules to uphold.

When the winds of human desires can blow us off course so easily, we are certainly adrift.


17 posted on 03/26/2013 9:52:04 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Kenny Bunk

BINGO...sadly.


18 posted on 03/26/2013 9:57:55 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Alex Murphy

“Biden says he is pro-life but will not seek to impose his views on others.”

He seems to be confused. The sin is that he is pro abortion, not that he might imposed his views on others. If this is his way to justify taking communion, “well, I’m pro life but I promise not to impose my views on others”, then he is truly spiritually lost.


19 posted on 03/26/2013 10:01:19 AM PDT by texaschick
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To: texaschick
The sin is that he is pro abortion, not that he might imposed his views on others.

That is a seriously good observation.

20 posted on 03/26/2013 10:36:40 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: ardara
The media has done a great job falely presenting Cardinal Dolan as a traditional Catholic.

I think the title of "Cardinal" does that and the title and position isn't fake.

21 posted on 03/26/2013 11:16:55 AM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Biden who refused to kiss the Popes ring because it was beneath his dignity can kiss this catholics ass.


22 posted on 03/26/2013 11:24:41 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Alex Murphy

“Biden says he is pro-life but will not seek to impose his views on others.”
Hey “Joe Catholic”, since you brought it up, do you treat other issues the same way or is it only Catholic stuff that applies? Will you not seek to impose any of your views on others? Do you apply the same policy to the following?
I am pro-universal healthcare but will not seek to impose my views on others
I am pro-gun registration but will not seek to impose my views on others
I am pro taxation but will not seek to impose my views on others
I am pro Constitution but will not seek to impose my views on others
I am pro gay marriage but will not seek to impose my views on others
I am pro “gravity is downward toward earth’s center” but will not seek to impose my views on others
I am pro seatbelt but will not seek to impose my views on others
I am pro freedom but will not seek to impose my views on others
I am pro “get murderers off of the streets” but will not seek to impose my views on others
I am pro education but will not seek to impose my views on others
Hey Joey, Is facilitating an abortion not an imposition of your views upon a conceived child?
Is pro life your view or God’s view, Joey? I think God came up with that view so it’s not really yours to impose.


23 posted on 03/26/2013 12:44:27 PM PDT by Repent and Believe (Promote good. Tolerate the harmless. Let evil be crushed.)
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To: Ann Archy; ardara
BTT Ardara's post:

The media has done a great job falsely presenting Cardinal Dolan as a traditional Catholic.They know they have a very useful puppet.
Cardinal Dolan is a liberal Democrat,who will do almost anything to bolster his legacy with liberal press.
Thank goodness Cardinal Dolan is not leading the pro-life movement.I firmly hope and pray that some day he sees the media and Obama for what they are.

This the clerical O'Reilly. "Fair and Balanced" and would neither vote for, nor endorse Jesus as the Republican candidate for mayor, with the 12 apostles standing for City Council.

Instead, like O'Reilly and the 53% of Catholics who voted Obama, they will vote for the communist anti-Christian baby killers every time. See also Chris Matthews.

24 posted on 03/26/2013 3:14:30 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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